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Attack on secularism

Martin O'Neill

Published 09 February 2008

Rowan Williams' comments on sharia law are dangerous nonsense, and insult Brtain's Muslims, argues Martin O'Neill

Rowan Williams, the current Archbishop of Canterbury, is generally considered to be unusually intelligent for an Anglican prelate. His interventions in public debate are generally thoughtful and serious, and he has a background as a successful academic theologian. But his pronouncements this week on the prospect of adopting sharia law in the UK rank high in the list of the most unhelpful and perplexing utterances from a major public figure in recent years.

In a speech on Thursday night at the Royal Courts of Justice on 'Civil and Religious Law in England', Williams made the startling claim that giving official sanction to sharia in the UK was "unavoidable" if the Muslim community are not be "faced with the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty".

Accordingly, Williams advocates a system of "supplemental jurisdiction" in some areas of UK law – for example, regarding inheritance and family law – whereby the state would recognize the legitimacy of decisions made in religious courts according to sharia principles, and consider them as binding over members of the Muslim community.

The first thing to say about this suggestion is that it is deeply insulting to many law-abiding Muslims in this country. Williams suggests in the text of his speech that there is some kind of impossibility in Muslims maintaining loyalty to both their culture and to the British state whilst they are subjected solely to the jurisdiction of UK law. This is the most pernicious nonsense, and is the kind of thing that one expects to hear only from xenophobes and fundamentalists.

The UK has thousands of practising Muslim lawyers but, if Williams is correct, their commitment to the secular British legal system can be achieved only at the price of their loyalty to their religion and culture. To claim, as Williams does, that loyalty to Islam and to the British state are unsustainable under our current legal system is equivalent to saying that Muslims are loyal to their faith only if they insist on living under sharia law. Williams's claim would be even more insulting if it were not so implausible as to be easy to dismiss.

Thankfully, we have countless examples of serious-minded practising Muslims who reject Williams's outlandish claim and demonstrate its falsity by their ongoing allegiance to both their religion and to the laws of their country.

In his speech, Williams wisely counsels in favour of the "deconstruction of crude oppositions and mythologies". It is a shame that he offers this good advice immediately after offering a particularly crude opposition of his own.

A second peculiarity of Williams's position is that he argues for it by invoking the value of freedom. Giving sharia law an official status as a "supplemental jurisdiction" is presented by Williams as a way of giving "Muslim communities… the freedom to live under sharia law". But in invoking values such as freedom, we need to think first of the concrete freedoms of particular individuals, rather than the collective freedoms of abstractions such as "the Muslim community".

In order for sharia law to be integrated into the UK legal system, the judgements of sharia courts would need to be given the force of law.

That means that, for example, the decisions of a sharia court in conducting a divorce settlement would be legally binding. What then of the position of a Muslim woman who found herself granted a paltry settlement by a sharia court?

Well, it seems that things could go one of two ways. Either the decision of the sharia court is taken as final, and the woman has thereby lost the rights and freedoms enjoyed by the rest of her fellow citizens; or else she retains her rights and freedoms as a UK citizen, and can challenge that divorce settlement in a (secular) court of law.

If the former course is taken, then her individual rights and freedoms have been sacrificed, and we have the unwelcome spectre of a UK citizen being denied basic legal rights on the basis of her cultural or religious status. Under the latter option, where the decisions of sharia courts are denied any independent legal standing and treated as (at best) provisional, it is difficult to see how we would really have a 'supplemental jurisdiction' of sharia at all. Sharia courts would be treated simply as informal methods for dispute resolution, without any special legal status (just as they are at the moment). But the choice is stark: sharia courts can be given full legal status only at the cost of individual freedoms, and through the suspension of certain legal rights of a section of the population.

These are some of the reasons why Williams's suggestion is so pernicious. The reasons why it is so confused are equally revealing.

Williams says that: "If any kind of plural jurisdiction is recognised, it would presumably have to be under the rubric that no 'supplementary' jurisdiction could have the power to deny access to the rights granted to other citizens or to punish its members for claiming those rights."

So, despite initial appearances, Williams clearly means to take the second of the two paths mentioned above: sharia would have standing only insofar as it was fully consistent with UK law, and involved no restriction on individual rights and freedoms. But this is not, then, a question of 'supplemental jurisdiction' rather, it is no jurisdiction at all. Williams wants to have it both ways: legal enactment of sharia, but only insofar as it leaves all our legal rights exactly as they already were. But that is not the same as bringing sharia judgements into UK law – it is merely licensing their ongoing application as a kind of optional and informal method for dispute resolution.

Sharia judgements gain their authority as putatively embodying the “eternal and absolute will of God for the universe and for its human inhabitants in particular” (to quote Williams). To put things bluntly, then, to suggest that sharia be taken into UK law is to suggest that one particular tradition’s understanding of the will of God be given legal standing. It is then hard to see why the will of God should be ignored when it happens to contravene, say, existing UK divorce law or inheritance law. The consistent positions are embodied by either a fully secular or a fully theocratic jurisprudence. Williams’s halfway house is just the sort of well-meaning but incoherent muddle that its critics often diagnose in the thinking of the Church of England.

I'll end with a puzzle about Williams's view on sharia. Williams, let us not forget, is a Christian. He believes, I assume, that each of us is possessed of an immortal soul, and that the salvation of that soul is dependent on our embracing the teachings of Jesus Christ. He presumably also believes that, whatever might be said of their sophistication and of the richness of the tradition from which they spring, Muslim interpretations of the will of God are mistaken. In short, either sharia has a sound theological basis, or else the doctrines of the Church that Williams leads are themselves in fundamental error. So, what Williams is doing when he calls for sharia law to be incorporated into UK law is that he is supporting a legal system which he must, on pain of clear self-contradiction, consider to be misguided and illegitimate. Why on earth would he do such a thing?

The answer, I suggest, is an illuminating one. Williams's real aim is an attack on secularism. Giving Muslim legal traditions a privileged position in UK law is a way of attempting to de-legitimize a fully secular legal system. It is a way of protecting the special position of religion in British public life, and, with it, thereby protecting the grotesque anachronism of special status of the Church of England. If Williams really cared about the value commitments of his fellow citizens, whether Muslim, Jewish, Hindu or atheist, he should be campaigning relentlessly for the disestablishment of his own church.

For all his erudition and scholarship, only then would it be plausible to think that Rowan Williams was being truly serious.

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24 comments from readers

Jane Greene
09 February 2008 at 11:34

What nonsense. Rowan Williams is a fine archbishop whose been under relentless attack by that branch of Christianity that would rather surrender their god-given ability to think than engage with the bible. It's easier to go through life having surrendered to moronic, unthinking Evangelical extremists, much more courageous to challenge and question. Now that ghastly wing of Christianity has been joined by the homophobic Daily Mail, and the liberal media which poses as left wing but is fundamentally unable to engage with inequality and the environmental challenges we face. Hand wringing gets us nowhere pseudo comrades. I'm horrified by the onslaught that Williams has been subjected to, the conclusions in this article are utter tripe - Muslim people already turn to their clerics in Britain and take note of their guidance. I suspect where the guidance isn't convenient they revert to the British system. I'm pretty sure that it isn't Williams that is ignorant in all of this!

ToryJoe
09 February 2008 at 15:00

I thought I was in a horrific nightmear of a dream as I read the BBC Politics page yesterday. Allowing Islamic Religious law into your country's legal system spells the end of liberty as you know it.

We Americans sometimes are seen as a bit over the edge in our Religious ways but the UK has outdone anything would dare do. Pray God you stand up and defend your liberty for this is as open an attack upon your Constitution as any!

FrDavid
09 February 2008 at 16:23

It seems quite sensible that a religious leader should wish to protect the place of Faith in public life against the forces of secularism.

Of course that is his aim.Well done Archbishop. You probably have much more support than you realise.

As for Martin O' Neill - what a burkha!

Douglas Chalmers
09 February 2008 at 17:04

The more dangerous issue in Christianity is NOT Islam or Sharia law. It is the thoroughly outdated, utterly erroneous and totally irrelevant juxtaposition of the ancient bloodthirsty history of the Jewish peoples with the revolutionary teachings of the wandering prophet, Jesus, in what is deemed to be the most progressive of the three Abrahamic religions.

One, the biblical "old testament", is the genocide and landgrabbing that the Zionists of the past indulged themselves in at their neighbours' expense whenever and wherever they had the opportunity. That was then all 'justified' by reference to an imaginary 'god' who would then supposedly assure them that they were always "the chosen ones" despite their various other travails and failings.

The biblical "new testamant" is what the Christian faith should be founded on and nothing else. It includes Jesus' "the sermon on the mount" and a story of his birth and teachings and healing ministry as well as his murder at the hands of the church and the state at the time. It is NOT a Judeo-Christian basis at all! The fact that he taught peace and love and died for his troubles in Jerusalem reveals nothing about the origins of his words.

The fact that Jesus' murder was the contrivance of the Jewish priests and their legalistic religion in order to get rid of him and suppress the truth of the possibility of the FREEDOM of the masses still seems not to have dawned upon contemporary Christians in the Western world. Neither have they realised the fact that Christianity is originally a West Asian religion and they have little understanding of how things have evolved since then.

In fact, Jesus might not have been Jewish or might not have been born in Palestine (the fantasy state of Israel) at all. Or, if he was, he most probably travelled to the East and first studied the teachings of Buddha in India and possibly vsited China or Tibet. There was little to offer in the way of enlightenement in such a repressive and primitive society as the Roman puppet state that the Jews barely survived in at the time.

Paul Evans
09 February 2008 at 17:44

Douglas, my research shows that Christ actually spent most of his youth hanging out with George Harrison and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - toking and playing sitar.

I'm sure Israel is a fantasy state - along with Belgium, Bolivia, Burundi, etc. But indulge us, do.

I'll let you get back to your Protocols now.

radius
09 February 2008 at 18:09

"Muslim people already turn to their clerics in Britain and take note of their guidance". Jane, you can't know many Muslim people. This stereotype of orthodox 'good Muslims' bears no relation to reality. Why is it that so many want to make their stereotypes a reality? To make sharia court judgments legally binding would increase the power of clerics and put enormous pressure on many Muslims - the less devout, but also women. But then it's 'voluntary' and they're all turning to their clerics anyway...

linoflew
09 February 2008 at 20:22

Sharia 'courts' in the UK should be monitored to ensure that the judgements being made are in accordance with English and Scottish law. It is a known fact that many muslim women have little power within Islam and there is a big danger of pressure being put on them to attend a Sharia court rather than seek help from a UK court. The result could be that their human rights are being ignored because clerics are able to dispense judgements in private that are contrary to English law.

radius
09 February 2008 at 21:32

We're being told to forget beheadings and think harmless old marital disputes. However, "family problems" are all about power relations in which women have less power than men. Putting male clerics in charge of that will obviously make things worse - there are no women in the British sharia courts). In practice, domestic abuse is not readily recognised, but forced marriages often are (occasionally a liberal imam will point out that forced marriage is a cultural practice, but in practice the Islamic marriage often takes precedence, and at best the guilty parties will be protected from prosecution).

If a victim of a forced marriage or other domestic abuse "chose" to use the civil courts when there was a sharia court available, their position would be made absolutely horrendous - by the fact that there was a sharia alternative, and that authority figures like Williams have campaigned for sharia (and heterosexual male clerics everywhere) to be given greater recognition. In the very worst cases, young women who rebel are taken away to the subcontinent and killed. The man is shamelessly trying to maintain and extend the power of his tiny clerical class.

George Eaton
09 February 2008 at 23:41

A superb, lucid article and the only one, amongst the raft of media commentary, that homes in on Williams' anti-secular agenda. I have always feared that the faithful, notably those who regard Abraham as a shared father, will eventually pool their resources in a common front against the secular.

I'm reminded of Prince Charles, who upon his mother's death, will become Supreme Governor of the Church, and his professed wish, once King, to be known as 'Defender of Faith' not 'Defender of the Faith'. Watch as House of Lords reform comes round once more and the Church, desperate to hold on to its coterie of unelected Bishops, proposes that each faith should be awarded a quota of 'representatives'.

Williams' is encouraging the view that religious faith of any kind is a virtue and as such merits privileged and separate treatment. He has demonstrated once more why the Church he leads is unfit to recieve any state subsidy and support. The necessity for a fully secular state, which privileges no religions and protects all, is greater than ever.

BritishAirman
10 February 2008 at 08:28

Read the Sunday lesson, 10 February 2008.

http://markatscotland.blogspot.com

Carl Jones
10 February 2008 at 09:09

Martin; Williams is entirely consistant with senior religious leaders from around the world. Christmas 2006 the Pope called for a new world order...given that it was Christmas, its context would be religious. Israel`s leading Rabbi spoke at a religious conference in Spain the same year, he called for a "new world order of religions". Prince Charles on a visit to Eygpt said, "we need more common ground between East and West".

We live in a globalised world, I don`t agree with it, but its here. You can`t have a fast changing world where religions remain entrenched. It seems to me that a large section of the establishment, including their media lackeys, are being a little small minded, if not ignorant.

If you didn`t know, we already have a global religion and its based in the UN building in New York. Its called "The Temple of Understanding", they have a small chaple/meditation room festooned with Masonic symbols...in fact, The Temple of Understanding was setup by Freemasonary...they even get to sit in on closed UN meetings!!lol And they have very strong links to all the major religions....do we hear anyone complaining? No!lol

I find it amazing that small minded members of the establishment are so upset about a suggested minor alteration to British law, when British citizens have NO protection from US courts what so ever, and do we hear any concern?LOL

Pencils
10 February 2008 at 09:55

Evidence, sources, Carl? By the way, do you know of any good books on the Rothschilds (I take it you wouldn't recommend Niall Ferguson's books)?

Carl Jones
10 February 2008 at 11:07

Pencils; I could find you sources, but I`m going to work soon, so maybe you should make the effort to be better informed.:)

If I post a comment on a site like this, which is so well read by the CREAM of Britain, I`m doing it in the absolute belief that what I say is TRUE, and more importantly, which I believe. Mr Willians has demonstated the arrogance of the British establishment and here we must separate the establisment and the NWO. The establishment are narrow minded self-satisfied twits....the NWO, by its very name, are constantly redefining their agenda, they are looking ahead, 20, 50 and 100 years ahead.

How on earth do you expect global religions to remain inert in a globalised world? The sad fact that I`m likely the only NS reader who has heard of The Temple of Understanding, speaks volumes.

I don`t run with Ferguson`s theories....he fails to point out that the Rothchilds have funded all major wars since the US Civil War. I doubt that Furguson would agree that the US/UK establishment invested in the German war machine, then place the illegitimate Rothchild named Hitler (MI6 patsy} in the Reichstag and then set about fighting a NWO (Rothschild) constructed Second World War....this led to the creation of the EU through the Bilderberg group and the estabilshment of the Israeli state...with a lot of Rothschild money....

...no, I`m sure Niall Ferguson is a member of the lodge and is a mirror of that other NWO disinformationist Noma Chomsky.

Pencils
10 February 2008 at 13:27

I should have made it clear that I have a low opinion of serial shiller Ferguson. It IS hard to find a worthwhile book on the Rothschilds, though.

Oh, I think the archbishop stepped seriously over the mark, and should be burned at the stake.

Douglas Chalmers
10 February 2008 at 13:48

From: AlJazeeraEnglish - Dr Mohammad Hashim Kamali, professor of Islamic Law, discusses the issue: "Sharia is not exclusive..... it does not have any harmful consequences if the Moslem communtiy feels that there is a sense of give and take..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2HOA3_C1YM

Douglas Chalmers
10 February 2008 at 14:01

Quote Paul Evans, 09 Feb: "...I'm sure Israel is a fantasy state..... I'll let you get back to your Protocols now..."

It might be as well to also consider that Scottish law will prevail in parts of the so-called UK soon, too. Just add Irish law and you poor English will shrivel back to your rightful place. What are you anyway after the Normans forced their laws upon Britain 1,000 years ago?

Being unenlightened is, after all, the consequence of maintaining one's fawning postion to a monarchy imported from a foreign country after the original supposed 'blu-bloods' had all murdered each other in centuries of internicine wars.

Paul Evans
10 February 2008 at 16:51

Douglas - Scottish law already does prevail in parts of the UK. Scotland, mainly.

radius
10 February 2008 at 23:08

"so well read by the CREAM of Britain"

The custard maybe, ok - but the cream?! Didn't Tamimi once describe himself and the rest of MAB as the cream of society? Great minds.

I buy my sharia-certified whipping cream from Safeway, the home of good cheese. Where all the best illuminati and babylonian brothers shop.

blondcat
11 February 2008 at 10:29

Thanks to communist George Galloway for allowing this perversion of civilisation

Europe has lost its way and this time scarily so. Last week a spokesman for England’s Anglican faith community unabashedly pronounced the UK should consider implementing barbaric Sharia law into the UK’s legal system. Shocking. I knew the Faustian affair that is the European Left’s relationship with the Muslim community was gaining frightening proportions but this left me with an eerie feeling.

Europe is drowning in a culture of pseudo-intellectual leftish guilt and unhealthy victim ideology gone berserk. If you put out a movie critical of Islamic traditions as an Arab woman formerly adhering to the way of Mohammed, the European intellectual community will guarantee you a green light in no time. Yet, when Geert Wilders, a Dutch politician from the right (and not the extreme right, as the European biased media would want you to believe), announces a similar documentary, Harry Potter (Dutch prime minister Balkenende) has an acute panic attack.

This is how far Europe has come. We are the first to criticize the foreign policies of the US and Israel (which I definitely do not consider to be a bad thing), but in the meantime, the leftist Euromob who proudly presented us feminism, welfare and the in their opinion ever successful multicultural European society, fails to unanimously oppose religious zealots in their own country.

Killfacer
11 February 2008 at 10:44

Yes the idea of enforcing Sharia law in England is not only not implimentable and an entirely open encroachment on the human rights of British Citizens. But, despite being a staunch atheist, i do not beleive that William's statement was an attack of secularism. He is an extremely intelligent man and i find it hard to beleive he would attack British secularism. If you are right however, i am extremely worried that a extremely liberal Archbishop would make such a calculated move in order to undermine Secularism.

George Eaton
11 February 2008 at 13:41

Surely its entirely unsuprising that he should attack secularism? He is head of an established Church, the existence of which cannot be reconciled with secular principles.

brightsider
11 February 2008 at 13:57

Not many of the commentators seemed to read the original article, which was thoughtful and well-argued - particularly in identifying the ultimate direction in which Williams is headed - to undermine the secular and rational constitutional basis of this country.

Williams hasactually made the situation worse for the Muslim community: look at the rash of anti-Sharia stories in the press this weekend. The Arabic press has also been crowing that the UK Government (not Williams - hard for them to distinguish between parliamentary and clerical pronouncements!) has finally accepted the truth of Sharia law. Williams is setting up expectations that cannot be fulfilled - or pushing us down a very slippery slope indeed. If implemented, why not a Catholic court to discipline members who worked for companies with links to abortion and stem cell research, or were practising homosexuals?

Even the 'voluntary' sharia courts, and similar devices of other religions, unacceptably compromise the freedoms of individuals (particularly women) in this country and should in my view be closely monitored.

Carl Jones
11 February 2008 at 23:15

Keithuk; we don`t live in a secular state and where did you find "rational constitutional"??? It would help if we had a defined constitution.LOL

"The rash of anti-sharia stories in the press this weekend"....you should read my comment above...the MSM are part of the establishment and ever since the axis of evil (UK/US/Israel) started their sham was on terror, the MSM has taken every opportunity to slate the Muslim world and its cultue.

"Why not a Catholic court"...why not, war criminal Blair has gone and Prince Charles is thinking about it. Again, read my comment above, we have a global religion and its in the UN.lol

Don`t you think, that if sharia courts were brought into the British legal system, women would have more protection?

Religion is being globalised and the peoples of the world can`t even see it.lol

Killfacer
12 February 2008 at 11:46

Carl jones, you dont make much sense. Women would not have more protection, why would they? Look at saudi arabia were a woman was nearly execute for being gang raped. We are sold the "nice" shariah but it is all essentailly homophobic and sexist. As for your weird conspiracy theory Carl Jones i dont really understand what the hell your talking about. No pun intented.

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Martin O'Neill

Martin O’Neill is a political philosopher, based at the Centre for Political Theory in the Department of Politics at the University of Manchester. He has previously taught at Cambridge and Harvard, and is writing a book on Corporations and Social Justice.

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