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No gripes with God

Tabish Khair

Published 22 August 2008

Mankind cannot abandon the concept of God, says novelist Tabish Khair - despite the arguments of atheist 'fundamentalists' and the failings of religion

I have no quarrel with the belief that God doesn’t exist. It is simply a belief, for of course both the existence and non-existence of God are impossible to prove. However, I do have a quarrel with people who are adamant that the only 'intelligent’, ‘progressive’ and ‘rational’ option is a conviction of the non-existence of God. They seem to share an intransigence bearing echoes of religious fundamentalists, who are just as convinced that the existence of God, a matter not capable of proof, has to be insisted on and thrust down dissident throats. And the idea that the non-existence of God is the only intelligent option is seriously flawed.

I am talking of God, not religion. Let us not confuse the two. There are religions, like versions of Buddhism, with no ready concept of God. And there is a long tradition of very religious people – Hindus, Christians, Muslims etc – who have strongly critiqued dominant versions of their own religions as having betrayed humanity and God. The mystical tradition in almost every world religion draws strength from a critique of that religion by ‘believers’ who could see the difference between religion, as a socio-political structure of power, and God, as a conceptual experience.

To equate God and religion is to commit an intellectual error, and one that betrays a rather fleeting acquaintance with history. However, religions do employ ‘God’ to justify their precepts and power. Even here though, the idea that “religion kills” seems to be a bit unfair to long complex traditions that, while used for many devious purposes, have also served good and even ‘progressive’ ends. Take European Christianity, for instance: in the centuries when parts of ‘modern’ Europe were being built on the wealth of slave-holding and related conquests and plantations, Christianity was used to justify slavery. No doubt. But it was also employed to fight slavery. The fact is that religions, like any complex human construct (such as ‘science’), can be and have been used for good as well as for evil.

Thanks to the rise of stupider versions of religiousity in recent years, there has been a corresponding rise in books and articles putting forth the atheistic perspective. This is a welcome development, for, traditionally, atheists have been liable to be misquoted and suppressed. Welcome though the rise of ‘bestsellers’ on atheism might be from this historical perspective, many of the books and articles do seem to be a bit hard on poor God. As an atheist, I believe that there is a need to defend the concept of God: give the devil his due.

Recent atheistic treatises have correctly pointed out that religions, using God as an excuse, have committed and continue to commit many evils, and that they are seldom likely to fully tolerate those who refuse to believe. It is also true (as the champion ‘atheist’ Christopher Hitchens astutely notes and as religious mystics like Rumi and Kabir, born in medieval Afghanistan and India respectively, sang) that the claim of the religious to know the ‘mind of God’ is preposterous. One can argue, and mystics have often had this complaint against established religion, that God can only be a personal matter: any rule attributed to God, any claim to speak on behalf of God is not only absurd, as Hitchens would put it, but the greatest ‘blasphemy against God’, as some religious mystics of the past have suggested across Asia and Europe.

But these, and similar, bits of criticism do not come to grips with God: they either deal with religion, or deal with God in the reduced sense in which religious fundamentalists use the concept. It is not surprising that religious fundamentalists reduce God: they might talk of kingdoms in Heaven, but they are finally involved in a bid for dominance in this world. Given their experiences with their own mystics, they know that a complex concept of God is useless as a weapon for hegemonic influence.

Moderate, ‘secular’ believers in religion undertake other types of reduction too, the most common being the one that Hitchens rightly scoffs. These moderate believers suggest that the concept of God and religion are necessary for comfort, even though they may not be 'true'. In some societies, with a significant gap between ruled and rulers, it is also suggested that while cultivated people can live without God, the hoi polloi need God in order to survive, have morals etc. But, of course, religion is not the same as morality, and I agree with Richard Dawkins, Hitchens etc. when they note that the religious can be just as ‘immoral’ as the non-religious. It is also true that sometimes atheists have a very highly-developed sense of ethics and morality, for it is not based on fear, repression and custom and it does not, ideally, come with the dangerous feeling of being divinely privileged.

And yet, the notion of God is not exhausted by these arguments. Actually, I will go further and suggest that whether one believes in God or not, one has to engage with the concept of God. No, not because one has to ‘know one’s traditions and/or past’, for that is at best a weak argument. One has to engage with ‘God’ because one cannot get rid of the issues resolved within the concept even if one truly and wholly has no belief in God.

Yes, as Hitchens notes, man made God. And yet, ‘man’ cannot abandon God. Because ‘God’ is shorthand for a relationship that humans have with each other, with themselves and with the world. Within all religious traditions, ‘God’ stands for the index of all that humans cannot be. But he also stands for all that humans are capable of becoming. Put simply, humans are more than ‘beasts’ and humans are not ‘God’. It is this balance that one has to attain – its absence makes some scientists and most religious fundamentalists dangerous.

Tabish Khair is a novelist and an associate professor at the University of Aarhus

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11 comments from readers

Staberinde
22 August 2008 at 16:35

A pity. Just when the article was getting to the meat, it ended. The final six sentances offer a glipse at an interesting perspective which gets little air-time; a shame we had to plough through an entite article of context to get to so measly a conclusion.

radius
22 August 2008 at 22:25

Tabish, it's probably the sub-editor, but IMHO only moral relativists could equate strong convictions per se with 'fundamentalism'. Atheists tend to be 'adamant' not because of dogma but on the basis of proofs and likelihood: if an all-powerful Being with an interest in us were to manifest itself in some way, unbelievers would become believers. It is of course impossible to prove all sorts of negatives, but the basic atheist position in relation to Abraham's god is that he/it has not manifested, all we have is a sequence of men claiming to have spoken entirely in private to this totally shy super-being. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that occam's razor says no? Nor is it unreasonable to read the bible and the qur'an as quite unambiguously condoning slavery: it is people who are christians/muslims who decide to update these gruesome texts.

However instrumental people's lived experience of religion might be, our humanity is better for us than God. At a personal level, yes, we are at once beasts of the field and angels, but is not God ultimately an expression of our unwillingness to die? And while the only 'intelligent' perspective is surely that our individual self is impermanent, we atheists do need to dig around a bit more in that particular hole which so many people bung 'god' into.

Douglas Chalmers
23 August 2008 at 13:11

"...as Hitchens notes, man made God..... both the existence and non-existence of God are impossible to prove..."

This is nonsense and already science has accepted that there is a Universal Creator or Original Cause (the big bang). Only the creationists on Earth have still to evolve to accepting that rather obvious conclusion..... as well as the fact that the evolutionists are also correct, uhh.

You must know that you are the all-time fool 'so blind that he will not see', Tabish Khair.

Douglas Chalmers
23 August 2008 at 15:46

"...they might talk of kingdoms in Heaven, but they are finally involved in a bid for dominance in this world. Given their experiences with their own mystics, they know that a complex concept of God is useless as a weapon for hegemonic influence..."

A "complex concept of God" is just as useless as not having a god - or denying that there is a Creator. As a product of Its Creation, man's ego is the only problem complication.

There is not much point in having a human race that has never discovered the real reason for its own existence. As such, humans might not exist for much longer anyway.

Thus simplicity in our outlook (or inner seeking) is ever the key to appreciating our real position in the 'greater scheme of Things'. Presumptuously dictating the terms of our existence to (a) our own imaginary 'god', or (b) to the real Creator of all of us is the ultimate absurdity.

Riaz Ahmad
23 August 2008 at 23:43

Tabish, one must draw a distinction between the god of religion and the god in general. We know hardly anything about the later, it is an abtract concept.The god of religion on the other hand is attributed with certian human attributes stretched to perfection. It is not the god of religion that created religion, it is completely the other way round, it is man kind who created the god of religion.

I am an agnostic, I have no problem with religion, nor do I blame religion for the worlds problems. Basically all religion have a set of ethical rules and they all preach peace. The real problem is politics, the politicians, past and present have used religion and idiology to justify the waging of war, the real purpose is misappropriation, vested interest and domination.

Religious leaders disguise political ambitions and wage war in the name of religion. Angered by hypocricy, injustice, and exploitation by the west, the lunatic fringe in the Islamic world is using the religion as a tool to wage war against the west. Devoid of any military technology or effective weapons, incapable of fighting westren military machine, they turn to terror as an effective weapon and justify it in the name of religion.

Take the recent example of the German pope. He accused Islam as a violent religion spread by sword, but he conveniently forgot to mention the pillage, rape plunder and slaughter in South America carried out by Spanish Christians for almost 200 years. Neither what the pope said, nor what the Spaniards did is the fault of Christanity. It is all politics using religion as a tool. Both Christanity and Islam are peaceful religions.

radius
24 August 2008 at 23:21

Or religion using politics as a tool? The revealed texts of the Abrahamic religions are far from peaceful, and served to justify the conquest and persecution which which their histories are littered. Religion is ideology as well as culture, the religious are often peaceful, but monotheistic ideology really isn't. We shouldn't allow it to hide behind the human shield of its followers.

T KHAIR
25 August 2008 at 10:13

Because some readers seem to have noted the abrupt ending, I am attaching the bit that I had to leave out because of length requirements:

To believe that ‘man’ is “mere beast” is to justify much evil and propagate some. To believe that ‘man’ can play God is to condone many crimes, and propagate some. There are hard scientists -- and more so, perhaps, journalists touching up scientific facts about matters like the human genome – who seem to believe that ‘man’ is only a ‘beast’, the product of a biological inheritance of the simplest, crudest kind. As do religious fundamentalists, who are convinced of the bestiality of humanity, its depravity. But we are human in exactly the space where we are both and neither: it is that space which gets conceptualised as a relationship to ‘God’ in the best of religious traditions. We can abandon the word, but we cannot abandon the relationship – or only at the risk of abandoning the world itself, and ourselves in it.

Douglas Chalmers
25 August 2008 at 11:00

Very well said, #radius. But the worst persecutors these days are the ones who have usurped the also universal "human rights" agenda for false claims to support their own covert racism as regards bashing China.

Essentially, they are there "...to justify the conquest..." of the hegemonic powers (the Neocons) by blame-shifting and finger-pointing. This is easily done by manipulating the feelings and sentiments of sectional interests.

Thus "...a matter not capable of proof, has to be insisted on and thrust down dissident throats..." and that is exactly what has been happening recently with their agenda of attacking China, right or wrong.

A bloody riot by a murderous mob in Lhasa incited by vicious rock-throwing fake Buddhist monks and the harassment and vilification of Chinese Olympic flame torchbearers in Europe particularly has been dishonestly reported as somehow supporting human rights in Tibet.

And recently, the FalunGong movement (based in the USA) has been vocal in reminding us that all things evil in the world must come from China alone. That is despite their supposed beliefs and master's teachings of tolerance, forbearance and forgiveness.

But the "ideology (and) culture" behind these religious movements is actually the old white racist agenda in some new virulent form which has adopted their chosen 'token Asians' and yet only as a means to continue to justify their attacks upon the majority of Asians.

Thus not-for-profit human rights organizations which also have genuine agendas like Amnesty International and Avaaz.org have been hijacked by more focal single-issue groups with more sinister agendas to disrupt the legitimate affairs of a foriegn country for their own perceived benefit.

radius
25 August 2008 at 12:06

As Sophocles said, "Wonders are many, and nothing is more wondrously strange than man". But 'God' speaks more to our indefatigable egocentricity than that wonder, a projection of our sense of self onto the eternal. And it is usually 'men of the cloth' who play God, privy as they are to His will.

There's nothing wrong with being a beast - gods and angels are beasts too, but we've convinced ourselves that things of the beast are depraved. The human biological inheritance is hugely complex, and the word 'God' serves only to demean that complexity by fetishising and perpetuating the self. We can let go.

tacklinfuel
27 August 2008 at 20:55

Science is not a religion, or a philosophy, it is a methodology. It deals with the physical not the meta-physical - this is the realm of religion. For instance, evolution scientifically explains human adaption, yet it does nothing to challenge the concept of existence itself - why does anything exist at all? Scientists could trace this back to the big bang - yet why was there this ball of mass at year zero? Why did it exist?

Tolstoy's book 'A Confession' beautifully deals with his disillusionment with religion in his youth and his subsequent repproachment.

Zulquarnain Mallick
11 September 2008 at 20:53

Absolute acceptance should be as ridiculous as an absolute denial. Then what explains that near absolute acceptance that religious people tend to achieve, How is that possible?

In my opinion, the answer lies in the fact that we humans can't ever come to a singular conclusion about anything. We near out the things to a nearest and best approximation as per our insight. In this case the subject to the nearest approximation is the baser need for a personal God, that even the deviants couldn't and shouldn't deny of in singular absoluteness.

Both the believers and non believers have to live up with some belief. It is where the difference arises. While a believer messes his God with that of his religion, the later tries to mold and remold it in his framework of understanding as he is free to do so.

In both the cases the difference being the framework of belief. While the believers seem to have an absolute acceptance due the reason that they are not left with much wisdom after they have once molded their personal God in their respective religion. So, they seem to have an absolute belief, but again this proves that this is just a mere reduction of their personal God till the point after which it couldn't be reduced so. Thus we may say that one can't deny of God, because in either way the fuel is the same, "A need for a personal God", and this need is what religions draw their coal from. This is from where the foundation of atheism starts, denying this need to its nearest approximation

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