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A new Kyoto?

Peter Hardstaff

Published 05 December 2007

At the Bali conference, Peter Hardstaff reflects on the differences between campaigning for and campaigning against

As a veteran, if that’s the right word, of several international governmental meetings (WTO, World Bank/IMF, G8 etc.), I have to confess it’s refreshing to be demanding that governments come together and reach a positive agreement.

Often, we are ‘manning the barricades’ (metaphorically or actually) in an attempt to stop something bad happening.

Saying that, it’s usually more about perception than reality. Take the trade talks as an example. We have been rightly perceived as opposing the unfair agenda of the European Union, US and various others in the current trade round but this has also been taken to mean we oppose trade itself, we oppose having rules and we oppose multilateralism; all of which is total guff.

Anyway, back to the point; it makes a change to be perceived as campaigning ‘for’ something rather than ‘against’. Don’t get me wrong; there are several potentially grim things that could be ‘inserted’ into the climate talks that will need to be opposed.

The spectre of nuclear power will not be far away (let’s use new clean technologies, not the old rubbish like nuclear power) and biofuels will also no doubt be heavily promoted (how about using technology that actually reduces emissions and doesn’t exacerbate hunger?). Both the nuclear industry and biofuel lobby have sent their emissaries to Bali to drum-up support.

There is also the danger that a new deal could be created and that this could specifically subordinate itself to World Trade Organisation (WTO) rules. It sounds like trivial nonsense but whether to create a brand new agreement is no small matter. Talking to people in the corridors here in Bali, one of the major issues at stake in this conference is whether or not the Kyoto Protocol is extended and perhaps amended (generally what developing countries want in order to preserve the good bits of the Kyoto deal) or whether an entirely new agreement is created (what some richer countries like the USA want because they want to re-write the rules and water-down some of the development friendly stuff).

And whether or not Kyoto is amended or replaced, there is always the danger that any new rules create loopholes big enough to drive a truck through that mean rich countries end up not having to reduce their own carbon emissions by what is required.

So, actually, it looks like there could be quite a lot of opposing to do. Oh bugger. Anyway, overall, on balance, it makes a nice change to be positive.

Stop nukes and biofuels now!

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2 comments from readers

Cybertiger
05 December 2007 at 21:45

"Stop nukes and biofuels now!"

But the real problem is rats!

The world is simply overrun with fiercely destructive human vermin. If the planet is to survive, there must be an end to this scale of infestation and a catastrophic reduction in the numbers infesting. Humankind cannot survive without a global pandemic of the plague or some such decimating catastrophe. Is overpopulation a taboo or something? Why is a human cull not at the top of the agenda at Bali?

There are a few enlightened folk like Professor John Guillebaud, agent contracepteur extraordinaire, who understand the terror of overpopulation and the war that must be waged in order to save the species.

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/335/7630/1104#182503

George Bush too, is another of those folk who celebrates the sanctity of all human life - but understands the need to ‘destroy in order to save’.

"Oh bugger."

aelemay
14 December 2007 at 11:36

Oh Bugger, there are no good bits to Kytoto. It is a disaster; only two countries are not in violation of the mandatory reductions: Germany and England. Germany did it because the former East Germany was full of Soviet-era obsolete plants which were shut down, and England did it because of the old coal-fired plants were converted to gas. Both of these things happened without any involvement in Kyoto Protocols. But, both Italy and Spain were fined a total of 21 billion dollars for violating the rules.

Do you have any concept of how many hospitals, social programs, safety improvements, and other things of merit this might have been done with this money? Instead, it is going straight into the hands of UN Bureaucrats, and what do you think they will do with the money? And now, sweet, reasonable, socialist Europe is going to raise the mandatory percentage from 5 percent to 25 per cent, or higher? Really, have they no brains, no conscience about making life much harder and more expensive for their citizens? Now, if the UN had set the caps higher, then the fines would have been much less. This means that the UN can extract permit money and fines from all the signatories without as much as a fare-thee-well from the signatories in Europe. And, most have seen CO2 emissions climb almost uncontrollably.

Now, wicked, nasty, arrogant, stupid, and disgustingly repulsive America has reduced its CO2 emissions with its voluntary technology-driven programs. But, now Europeans threaten to boycott the American’s proposed conference if America does not agree to do things the way Europeans do. So, let’s get this right, those whose programs have failed want those whose programs have succeeded to adopt the failed programs and discard those which have succeeded. Did I get this right?

Now, why should America let the UN dictate the financial and economic levers of the American economy with caps and trade, or with carbon taxes? Didn’t America break away from England because of something they called “no taxation without representation?” And, when it comes to the UN, the US is persona non grata.

And, bye the bye, what does everyone think of the open letter to his Excellency, Ban Ki-Moon by 100 top climate scientists, many members, or former members, of the IPCC that CO2 reductions will do nothing to control climate? What about the Pope Benedict XVI who said the pronouncements of the IPCC are not scientific, they follow the dogma of the environmentalists and they are scare-mongering. Will the 1 billion Catholics in the world pay attention?

Letter to Ban Ki-Moon

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=164002

The Pope’s statement

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnew...

Oh, my God! If this is correct the IPCC has wasted the last fifteen years, the Kyoto Protocols are nonsense, the Bali Conference is a waste of time, and all 15,000 climate parasites in Bali need to pack their bags, get their CV’s up to date, and try to get honest jobs.

But, fear not, the UN is capable of endless duplicity and falsehood, but some people may get the idea the Global Warming cart’s wheels are coming off.

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Peter Hardstaff is the World Development Movement's head of policy. Prior to joining WDM in April 2002, Peter spent three years leading research and advocacy work on international trade policy issues at the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds.

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