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'Everything is in ruins'

Viv Groskop

Published 20 November 2008

The war with Russia last August has devastated Georgia: work and even food are now scarce. And Georgians fear that worse is to come

A Georgian soldier in Nabakhtevi: the war put an end to Georgia’s rapid economic growth

''There is no normal life here. Everything is in ruins''

A late autumn afternoon in Tbilisi. A group of middle-aged men, neatly dressed in yellowing shirts and fading suits, are playing backgammon under the trees in a square in the Armenian quarter. Several have well-groomed moustaches. The atmosphere is jovial: Alexander, a proud man in his late fifties, dominates the group with his loud laughter. Were it not for the derelict shells of buildings behind them, this could be any Mediterranean capital.

The war with Russia last August did not come near the capital, but this part of Tbilisi looks bombed out all the same. What happened? It's just decay, they say. Much worse than during the Soviet era. "Just look at the state of the buildings," says Alexander. "It was never like that before. No one has work." He used to run a factory that made mechanical parts, but is now one of the long-term unemployed. He is an educated man, proud of his flawless Russian (Georgian is his native language). In Soviet times he con sidered himself middle class. Now he feels poor and humiliated.

Meanwhile, his country has backed itself into a corner. On Tuesday the second round of international talks on security in the Caucasus opened in Geneva; discussions were described as "difficult" and the Tbilisi-Moscow relationship is as tense as ever. But a change of leader in Washington might make a difference: President Saa kashvili will soon have lost his chief ally in the west, George W Bush. A populist and opportunist, Saakashvili is dismissed by many Georgians as too hot-headed, and organised protests are planned against him.

After ousting Eduard Shevardnadze in November 2003, Mikhail Saakashvili, now 40, helped to attract millions in foreign funding. He was perceived as being a pro-western reformer and democrat. The Americans gave $22m during the war in August and promised another $1bn in September. That came on top of $1.6bn in outside investment in 2007, much of it from the US, a 40 per cent increase on the previous year. The foreigners are to blame for this whole mess, Alexander asserts, because they prop up dodgy regimes. "Our government is more corrupt than any other in the world. And the US and the UK support them in their corruption."

The American money has not benefited the likes of Alexander. To reach the capital's Armenian quarter from the international airport there is only one route: straight down President George W Bush Street, the only pothole-free highway in town, festooned with pictures of a waving Bush. But Alexander can't afford to travel abroad and doesn't expect to be able to find the money any time soon, so he has never driven along the route. Local officials have used the foreign money to buy up the best property and evict the poor, he says. His own house is at risk: it belonged to his great-great-grandmother and all his family were born there. Some people he knows survive by stealing, he says - a loaf here, some supermarket food there. He claims to have friends in prison who are desperate to stay because inside they don't go hungry.

“Our government is more corrupt than any other . . . and the US and the UK support them in their corruption”

Nana, 44, a biologist, is strolling through a nearby park opposite the parliament building with her four-year-old son. This is where Saa kashvili's supporters celebrated with fireworks when he forced Shevardnadze's resignation in 2003. "Things feel uncomfortable now," she says. "I'm not frightened at the moment but I feel as if we are not going in the right direction." She worries about her son's future. Eighty per cent of the intelligentsia have lost their jobs, she says, and no one needs scientists in the way they did in the Soviet era. "I am lucky - I still have a job. Most people I know are out of work. I don't think this problem with Russia will be resolved peacefully and I find that very upsetting. Saakashvili was wrong to use violence [against the breakaway provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia]. It was not the right way to respond. I feel as if we are not being told the facts. This situation is benefiting someone, but you can't quite work out who. I do agree that we should fight to keep these territories because they are ours and not Russia's. But it should be a diplomatic fight, not a military one. Why kill people over something like this?"

The one hope, she says, is the popular female politician Nino Burjanadze, a 44-year-old pro-democracy campaigner who was briefly acting president before Saakashvili took office. Burjanadze has already aligned herself with the protests against Saakashvili's actions this summer and is calling for elections. The word is that "something" could happen as soon as the end of this month. "No one knows what, though," Nana says, stroking her son's head. The more she talks, the more upset she becomes. "Sorry - I am not articulating myself very well. It's because I'm afraid."

Down the road in an underpass leading to the main street, Rustaveli, four menacing-looking youths are hunched together around a cap thrown on the floor. Suddenly they open their mouths to sing, and a pure Georgian chant reverberates around the walls. Next to them a woman in a housecoat and slippers is selling curtains. Some old men are having a picnic of tomatoes and bread on an upturned cardboard box. Out on the street, stray cats and dogs are everywhere, picking their way through buildings abandoned halfway through reconstruction. You encounter well-dressed, middle-aged people who look as if they are sitting down waiting for someone or something. It is only when you see the outstretched, cupped hand and the expression of shame on each face that you realise they are begging. At a set of traffic lights one man is trying to sell balloons, weaving in and out of six lanes of traffic.

Before the war with Russia in August, Georgia’s economy was expanding rapidly: its reported growth rate for 2007 was 12.4 per cent, according to the New York-based analysts EurasiaNet. There are signs of stability: BP, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Pepsi, Coca-Cola and the legal firms Baker & McKenzie and DLA Piper all have offices here. There is a vigorous cafe culture: a chain of literary cafes has opened in recent months. For young people in their late teens and twenties, especially those who speak several languages (as many do), the outlook is not bad; new Marriott and Hyatt hotels have opened and the service industry is growing. Anyone who can get a job with a western company can hope for a salary of up to $2,000 a month. But this is an option for only a privileged minority. The salaries of state teachers and doctors are a tenth of this. And men like Alexander are completely washed up.

In Tbilisi's most affluent quarter, Shardeni, the mood is more combative. Besarion Darjani, an affable gallery owner in his fifties, says he supports the current regime: without American aid Georgia would be even worse off.

"It's all about money, the oil pipeline and Russia's pretensions to be an empire," he says. "Putin wants someone in some godforsaken Siberian town in the middle of nowhere to turn on his TV news, see the bombing, beat his chest and say, 'Hey, that's our territory!' Saakashvili was obliged to do what he did because he had to defend our territory against the Russians. He was provoked."

His gallery sells the work of 50 local artists, many of whom have up to ten dependants. It is largely foreigners who buy the artwork, he adds, so he is happy to see them and their money. In a courtyard near the gallery, a group of Americans are drinking a bottle of Georgian red wine. Last month the Georgian Chamber of Commerce welcomed a group of a dozen British tour ope rators for a week-long trip. But, with the crisis unresolved - and likely to flare up again at any moment - fewer foreigners have been coming.

If the situation with Russia is not resolved quickly, says Darjani, his business could dissolve: "Russia spits on the world and on any- one who gets in the way of their great empire. The current government has ruined years of friendship between Georgia and Russia. I don't blame ordinary Russians, though. I have a lot of friends living in Moscow and Leningrad. But the people of South Ossetia and Abkhazia are Georgians. Their nationalities have been artificially created by the Russians - they give them passports and money and promise them autonomy. So then of course they want to be Russian. But what about the fact that it is our territory and there are Georgians living there?"

Many of these South Ossetians and Abkha zians have sought refuge in Tbilisi, living in hospitals and schools. Their numbers are estimated at anything between 20,000 and 60,000. (According to the UN, another 20,000 have fled into Russia.) The capital's infrastructure can barely support them.

The authorities host regular entertainment and when several hundred Georgians turn up for a charity performance at the theatre on a Saturday night, they look as if they almost fit in but somehow don't. These are modern refugees: the children are impeccably dressed and taking pictures of each other on their mobile phones.

Some of the other theatregoers are local people. I meet a group of young women outside on the balcony. Dressed in satin blouses and leather trousers, they are not worried about Georgia's future. "You couldn't really notice any difference in Tbilisi in August," one of them says. "It is worrying, of course, but I think that whatever happens the EU and Nato will bail us out, especially if it gets really bad."

But those of the older generation know how conflicts have been resolved in the past. Many of the actors from the theatre died in the last war in the early 1990s in Abkhazia. “These were boys who did not even know how to hold a gun,” says the director Robert Sturua. “I told them, ‘If you go to war, don’t bother coming back, because I don’t want murderers in my theatre.’”

The theatre has a small government subsidy but survives largely through donations from an anonymous businessman, who pays the directors' and actors' salaries. They cannot hope for too much from the state, says Sturua. "We have a government that is making a lot of mistakes. That's normal, though. That's freedom. It's like Jefferson said, 'Freedom is a tree you must water with blood.' It sounds cruel but it's the truth. Georgia has suffered more than any other former Soviet republic. There is a generation of people who have completely lost hope."

Worst of all, the war in the summer eclipsed some of Georgia's greatest cultural achievements this year, he says. The State Ballet of Georgia was acclaimed at this year's Edinburgh Festival, where the much-feted prima ballerina Nina Ananiashvili performed Giselle. Another Georgian dancer, David Makhateli, is a rising star with the Royal Ballet in London.

Sturua argues that life has returned to something approaching normality since the events of August: there is no military presence here at all and already the tourists are returning. Cultural and historical tourism is something many see as Georgia's potential salvation. Sturua is an optimist: he sees no reason to think Georgia won't thrive once the territorial disputes with Russia are resolved.

But this sort of talk will not pacify the likes of Alexander. He just wants a regime change, and doesn't care who becomes president so long as he or she stands on an anti-corruption ticket. "There is no such thing as normal life here," he says. "Everything is in ruins. Even if you work you don't always get paid." But how do people survive, then? "A very good question," he laughs. "Why don't you ask our government how people like me get by? They don't care."

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40 comments from readers

Carl Jones
20 November 2008 at 11:14

i`m sorry Viv, but why do you keep refering to "the war with Russia"? It wasn`t a war! Georgia invaded South Ossetia....THIS WAS A WAR CRIME, Georgian troops with US and Isreali foces attacked a CIVILIAN population without warning????

I think Georgia should consider its self lucky, Putin is a man in control of himself, I on the other hand would have leveled Georgia, one has to keep up with the Amerikans (Falluja).LOL

FreedomLand
20 November 2008 at 11:30

So the economic crisis came to them early.....

Far better for NATO to pul their heads in. Can the EU's politicians be told, though?

Ang
20 November 2008 at 16:09

Saakashvili is downright dangerous - a fact that is slowly dawning on the hitherto-fawning West. With luck, his destructive instincts won't be allowed (by his paymasters or his people) to come to the fore again. Meanwhile, Russia has South Ossetia and Abkhazia in the bag, and that's that. Hang in there, Georgia!

Carl Jones
20 November 2008 at 16:33

Ang, the West might appear to be having second thoughts on Saakashvili, but they were behind the invasion of South Ossetia.

We must remember that Putin flew to the Beijing Olympics just so he could bark down Bush`s ear....Chinese tv caught Bush trembling after the stand-off.LOL

Dory
20 November 2008 at 18:08

Journalism as such is gradually changing its face in the 21 century. Biased presentations do not give credit to the author. Aren't you all tired of discrediting Saakashvili? Or Georgia for that matter?

First off, South Ossetia is a Georgian land unfortunately at this time being governed by outlaws and mercenaries. It's a lucrative territory for moneylaundring. That's why Russia needs it. And yes, it was Russia’s aggression against Georgia out of envy and spite. I always wonder how the "journalists" manage to pick up their respondents. I am sure every country has them. You will be appalled to see how many dilapidated houses there are in NY, Paris, London, Rome, etc and how many out of work people. Plants are closing down in economies and people are losing jobs but life goes on. There are day laborers in demand in central Georgia where new homes are being built for the Georgians who had to flee the conflict zones. This Alexander could go and work there. Yet it is easier to play backgammon and bad mouth the Government. I bet his wife works to provide for his relaxed life style. Next time write about professionals. Although, it’s not important really what you write or what comments you receive: the moon doesn’t heed the barking dogs. Georgia will continue to prosper.

Carl Jones
20 November 2008 at 20:18

Dory; excellent...who do you work for?

Jonty Stang
20 November 2008 at 23:20

"US and Israeli forces invaded.."

Who do YOU work for Carl?

The National Front? Combat 18?

gnuneo
21 November 2008 at 03:42

carl: it does rather seem that in recent months the NS has had *quite* an influx of professional propagandists, and oddly they all rather sound the same!

do you think we've annoyed 'them'? LOL ;)

viv: balanced article, well written. Well done.

Carl Jones
21 November 2008 at 04:32

They are everywhere, usually they lie low, but they do show when threatened. All I can say to Jonty, this is the reason why Russia gave such a limited response to Georgian war crimes. The Russians knew they`ed end up with a few 1000 US/Israeli prisoners of war. I suspect elite British forces were also involved, but there is little evidence to support this. But I can`t see them missing this opportunity.LOL

Dory
21 November 2008 at 13:49

Carl, Guneo,

I am not a professional propagandist, as you put it. That's the problem with you, guys - you have to pigeon-hole and brand everything. I just happen to know more than you and feel sorry for the aspiring uninformed.

Do you suggest I should also work for the Russians? Definitely they seem to be paying well. Look at all the mess media at this time with all the talks in Europe and the NATO summit approaching. How else to justify cowardice and kowtowing? Who cares about the underdog?! Although, you never know who will be next. 30 silver coinss... remember?

Dory
21 November 2008 at 14:01

One more thing: don't let your imagination fly with all those forces. You are overdoing it.

What do you think of Putin? HE is not dangerous? Check out Sudetland crisis in 1938. You can change names only. Nobody thought Hitler was dangerous. In fact everybody was eager to criticise the Check Government :)

Also, look into Georgia's economy (if you really are looking for truth :)) and compare to other countries from the former USSR. Have you checked the Russian economy recently?

Viv, why don't you write about Moscow? And don't go to the Gorky Street. Travel somewhere to the outskirts but take a body guard with you. Good luck.

People living in glass houses should not throw stones.

mark
21 November 2008 at 15:17

I think Dory is completely correct. What do you think Carl, that the Russians are motivated by a desire to protect the pitiful South Ossetians and Abkhaz. Tell that to the million Chechens butchered by the Russians, or the Ingush that are dying now. Russia has no respect for human life, they are using this conflict to destroy Georgian aspirations to be free of them. Who cares who fired first, look at the results--Russia occupies part of Georgia, much of Georgia destroyed. Who wanted this war? only your beloved russia. they engineered all of this, your great defenders of human life.

Carl Jones
21 November 2008 at 15:59

Mark, no one is right or wrong. But since Putin came to power, the West has done all it can to topple the Russian government and meddle with corrupt powers on its borders. I hope the Amerikanos build their missile shield/radar in Eastern Europe and as soon as its finished, I HOPE Putin will launch an attack to totally destroy the US sites.

The last part of your rant is full of lies. Georgia did not invade South Ossetia without the Wests blessing. As I have already stated, Putin could have gone after the Amerikan and Israeli military who were fighting along side the US armed and trained Georgian military.

Its all about Russian oil and gas. The DEMENTED NWO won`t stop until it controls all energy.

One of the reason why the NWO is pressing Russian into an arms race, is that the West can`t stand the thought of Russia building an ideal society for the Russian people, so Russia must be threatened and therefore forced into spending its new found wealth on an arms race started by the SICKO Western leaders/elite.

swatantra nandanwar
21 November 2008 at 16:03

The downfall of Communism has brought little comfort to the Slavic peoples. The only country to have benefitted has been Germany. They got Angela Merkel. The rest of Eastern Europe got diastrous govts, financial crisis and Islamic States.

Dory
21 November 2008 at 16:27

Dear Carl,

or should I say "tovarishch Marx"? It is so obvious who you really are. You have to disguise your true identity by being less obvious and more detached. Is this what they teach you at the three -letter-word school in Dzerzhinski Square in Moscow? Not good at all. No matter how much an Amercan may hate the current Administration in D.C., he would never wish the Russians destroying the US sites. LoL! Mr Putin will not be pleased.

See? Everybody knows about Chechens and Ingush? What about Nord- Ost and the school in Beslan? Can you blame that on the Israeli and American soldiers?

Jon Miller
21 November 2008 at 19:36

Carl, I happen to live near one of the US sites you

HOPE the Russians will launch an attack on. Do you

want them to destroy me, my family and neighbours?

GlennG
21 November 2008 at 20:06

Despite the fact that from 1921 to 1931 Abkhazia was a sovereign republic with a relationship to Georgia that was based on a union treaty, communist party organizational units of Abkhazia were subordinated to Georgia. This was the reason in 1931 (under pressure from Stalin) for Abkhazia to be incorporated forcibly as an autonomous republic within the Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic.

GlennG
21 November 2008 at 20:07

For some 60 years Abkhazia was forced to accept the unwelcome status of being a mere autonomous republic with Soviet Georgia (thanks to the ruling of the Georgian dictator Stalin-'Iosef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili'). For daring to defend our interests in the face of Georgian nationalist aggression, we were subjected to 14 months of savagery. In alliance with our allies from the Abkhazian diaspora or our cousins in the North Caucasus, we succeeded in ejecting the invader and winning the war. All that Georgia under its various leaders/governments has been willing to offer us by way of a settlement is a return the ‘status quo ante’.

How many examples are there in history where a people after being invaded, losing 4% of their population, and yet finally winning the war have meekly resigned themselves to accepting the selfsame subordinate status they had before the tragedy of a war inflicted upon them? This is something that the Georgian side and their international backers (who have no interest in the fate of minorities but think solely of the ‘big picture’ of preserving territorial integrity, of finding allies in an unstable part of the world, and of securing the flow of oil) would do well to remember.

Abkhazia is NOT Georgia. Abkhazia is Abkhazia! They should be told by their EU, NATO and US ‘friends’ to accept this fact, find a ‘modus vivendi’ with their neighbours (big and small alike), and then contribute to the creation of stability and prosperity for the Caucasus region as whole. We can all then get on with our lives in the peace that we all deserve.

GlennG
21 November 2008 at 20:11

Independence in Abkhazia was proclaimed on 31st March 1921. After that the Bolshevik Party in the Transcaucasus subordinated the members of the communist party of Abkhazia to the communist party of Georgia. This arbitrary move on behalf of the communists was based on its interpretation of the vague doctrine of “internationalism” and against the will of the people, who had devoted their lives to the freedom and independence of their homeland. Despite the fact that from 1921 to 1931 Abkhazia was a sovereign republic with a relationship to Georgia that was based on a union treaty, communist party organizational units of Abkhazia were subordinated to Georgia. This was the reason in 1931 (under pressure from Stalin) for Abkhazia to be incorporated forcibly as an autonomous republic within the Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic.

Today Georgia is a "semiauthoritarian" state, argues Lincoln A. Mitchell of Columbia University. He contends that "the Saakashvili government is the fourth one-party state that Georgia has had during the last 20 years, going back to the Soviet period." Saakashvili's wife favorably compares the supposed democratic champion to other Georgian "strong leaders," such as Joseph Stalin and Lavrenti Beria.

Antijuxx
21 November 2008 at 20:44

Ryan Grist, a former British soldier serving as an OSCE monitor, told the New York Times: "It was clear to me that the attack was completely indiscriminate and disproportionate to any, if indeed there had been any, provocation." Another British military officer, Stephen Young, who headed the OSCE mission, stated: "If there had been heavy shelling in areas that Georgia claimed were shelled, then our people would have heard it, and they didn't."

Not only was Tbilisi the likely aggressor. Georgia apparently targeted civilian areas in its initial assault. Even worse, Georgian forces may have committed war crimes. Reported the BBC: "Eyewitnesses have described how [Georgia's] tanks fired directly into an apartment block, and how civilians were shot at as they tried to escape the fighting." HRW's Allison Gill complained of "the misuse, the inappropriate use of force by Georgia against civilian targets."

While Saakashvili might be the most culpable party, his American backers were no less irresponsible. The Bush administration resolutely backed Tbilisi's unprovoked aggression. Sen. McCain proclaimed that "We're all Georgians now" even though Saakashvili's forces opened their assault by attacking civilians.

I am wondering, when they will start a new sorry campaign.

See http://www.humanrights.ge/index.php?a=article&id=1546&lang=e...

Carl Jones
21 November 2008 at 20:59

Jon Millar. Of course not. You should not read personal info into coments on here. We speak, or should I say so, on a GEOPOLITICAL level...wot ever that is.

Without appearing big headed, the more people ridcule US ambitions, the safer you are. :)

Carl Jones
21 November 2008 at 21:04

Antijuxx: thankyou for your excellent contribution. :)

Dory
21 November 2008 at 21:08

Antijuxx, I advise you check with independent sources or consult a dictionary to understand the meaning of an aggressor. Then you may have a clearer pictury of the reality in Georgia.

As for GlennG, I am sorry for you guys. Abxazia is no more. You will recall the blissful days of being inside Georgia as PART of Georgia with longing and sadness. Russia has already gobbled you up. Read your own ancestors and all the wars for independence ... from Russia. Sorry, the tiny ethnicity will disappear. You will want to go back to Georgia realizing your mistake but the corrupt Abxaz Government will not let you do that. Who cares about ethnic identity when so much money is at stake? If this gives you any consolation, you can go on and hate Georgia but the truth is that the Russians will trample you over and won't even blink twice. The fact is that they don't need you, they need access to the sea and the luscious Georgian land devoid of people. Watch out and good luck!

John Zorn
22 November 2008 at 03:36

Dory, I think that you "demonized" Russians too much, thought. In your description Russians are nothing but monsters! Besides, the destiny which you have predicted to Abkhazia, at least, is improbable. As far as I know, Georgia tried to exterminate Abkhazians and Ossetians twice, and Russia protected these small peoples. Your arguments - I'm sorry, but it's only repetition of the Tbilisi regime propaganda.

By the way, Gorky Street and Dzerzhinski Square - where is it? ;)

Pencils
22 November 2008 at 14:55

siafu (did you mean 'snafu', or is the 'i' for us to guess?) - Is that you, Dejan?

Anyway, thanks to antijuxx and Glenn Gould for especially interesting and informed posts ( and, of course, Carl Jones for keeping the show on the road). Yes, there is wide independent verification of what Antijuxx ( who or what is juxx, and why oppose he/she/ it?) says re absence of the shelling which the Georgian fuhrer claimed set the whole thing off.

And no sign, so far, of that wee guy who censors everything - good show!

Siafu
22 November 2008 at 16:14

Don't have an idea what's you about, Pencils.

Dory
22 November 2008 at 17:24

Envy is the worst desease ever. I advise you read John Steinbeck's Russian Journal, Chapter 7. By the way, do you read books at all? History books will also be good. Chao.

Siafu
22 November 2008 at 17:58

Jealosy?! Are you kiddin'? :)) Is there a reason for me to envy georgia?

So why Steinbeck? Why not John Milton? Let's take as a basis of our knowledge of Russia his" A Brief History of Moscovia and of other lessknow Countries lying eastward of Russia as far Cathay. Gather'd from the writings of several eyewitness."1682

Taking your Gorky Street and Dzerzhinski Square, that rubbish from XVII c. may be reliable sourse :)))

freedomfighter
22 November 2008 at 20:12

I take offense to your blatant dismissal of the Abkhazians' and Ossetians' identities as well as their historical claims to the lands their ancestors have dwelled on for centuries. If you took the time to properly research these people's origins, you would learn that, indeed, Abkhazians and Ossetians are NOT Georgians and their identities are not created by Russians. How dare you attempt to publish such garbage and try to pass it off as intellectual fodder. After I stared in amazement at your words, I had to laugh at the foolishness of this. I apologize for the meanness of my words, but, sir, you obviously need to do your homework when it comes to this region. Georgians were the ones to start this conflict. Under international law, Russia had a right to protect its citizens (aka the people in these regions who were carrying Russian passports). While I have my worries about how Russian conducted itself as well (don't worry), I do still believe that Abkhazia and Ossetia had a right to live apart from Georgian discrimination and bigotry. Why (think long hard and deep about this one) do you think they have been fighting the Georgians for so many years? And this conflict goes way back before 1992....think about Stalin, and think about before Stalin. Obviously, sir, you need to visit the region or learn more than what your Georgian drinking buddies down at the local bar are telling you. This is way more deeper than what you are depicting. Please, again, do your homework before you attempt to pass this mess of an article off as an intellectual argument. Merci beaucoup.

freedomfighter
22 November 2008 at 20:16

JontyStang, it is a well known fact that Israel abetted Georgians in their invasion of South Ossetia. Do some research.

onlooker
22 November 2008 at 21:20

Viv, regardless of your intentions, if you want to be trusted , don't lie in petty details like the "russian soldier" in the picture, armed with M-4.

olegg
24 November 2008 at 08:01

The picture above shows a quite “typical” Georgian soldier – NATO helmet, US gun. And a “typical” Georgian face – too. But – the author says – he is ‘Russian’. What does it mean? Perhaps, a Russian passport in his American fatigue’ pocket?

David George
24 November 2008 at 14:02

First of all note to the article's publisher. the soldie on the photo is not a Russian but Georgian soldier (he holds M16 and not Kalashnikov). This obvious mistakes indicatres unprofessionalism and lack of knowledge of reality in Georgia and conflict in general.

Instead of taking some Alexander's moans as truth author has to keep in mind that not only Georgia's economy ois growing, but more and more people have jobs and are able to support their families. As for so called corruption it is one of the main deeds of this government that CORRUPRION IS ALMOST IRRADICATED in Georgia. And this is Saakashvili's and his team's achievement.

David George
24 November 2008 at 14:07

Note to fredomfighter.

Territory of so called South Ossetia has always been a heartland of Georgia's Kartli region. Ossetians are separate ethnic group of Alans who settled in orth Caucasus before 10 th century. They were gradually settling on Caucasus southern slopes during last 800 years and were aloowed to cultivate land by Georgia feudals. Ossetians have NO CULTURAL HISTORICAL BUILDINGS ON THIS TERROTORY. And it's a shame that instead of being thankful for georgians for living on these territories they are treacherously using Russin power to break Georgia's terrotorial unity.

As for Israel's involvement in this war there were no soldiers involved. It is obvious lie of friedomfighter.

Georgia was legitimately buying Israeli arms.

Admin
24 November 2008 at 17:48

Just to confirm - we made an error describing the soldier in the picture as Russian. He's Georgian as it now states. Apologies for any confusion. Ben Davies, editor, newstatesman.com

Carl Jones
24 November 2008 at 18:32

Ben, many, many NS pictures and cartoons turn out to be problematic at best and often disturbing.

Admin
25 November 2008 at 09:28

Sorry you're disturbed Carl.

Carl Jones
26 November 2008 at 01:02

Admin; define "disturbed" in this context...please?

I have sent you several emails about NS picturs/cartoons and YOU ranted about my comment regarding a picture used by the NS which showed a line of coppers (police) used on a NS article about the police not doing enough about rape.......lol.....

.....the NS mucked up, and I got the blame!!LOL

You are the ONE who`s disturbed.....Still waiting for an email from Cowley about your constant censorship.LOL

PlanetStarbucks
26 November 2008 at 03:11

Carl,

On the note of censorship my last comment (number 38, mine was where yours is now), was cut for making the rather logical statement that Saakashvili is a war criminal for atacking his own populance. Orwell must be turning in his grave knowing that the "memory hole" has been created as a button on a keyboard.

Riaz Ahmad
28 November 2008 at 02:40

Georgia needs a clever president who knows his / her national interest with in the political realities of the region, some one capable of playing a cat and mouse game with Russia and the West. The current maveric hothead too ready to dance to American tune, forsaking his country's national interest is too dangerous for Georgia. Yes it is Geogia's soveriegn right to join NATO, but is this right in tune with the regions political realities. Georgia needs a pragmatic mind as head of state capable of balancing the clashing interests of Russia and the west. Perhaps Georgia can learn a lot from Finland.

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