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UK banks hit by downgraded credit ratings

12 banks and building societies less likely to recieve support from the government during financial difficulties.

Moody's has downgraded the credit rating of 12 UK financial firms, including Lloyds TSB, RBS, Nationwide and Santander UK. Shares in both RBS and Lloyds were down by about 3.5% in morning trading.

Moody's said that the government are now less likely to support some of the firms if they got in to financial trouble, including the complete removal of "systemic supoort for seven smaller institutions."

The Chancellor, George Osborne, said one reason for the downgrades was that the government was seen to be "trying to deal with the too-big-to-fail problem".

"One of the reasons they're doing this is because they think the British government is actually moving in the direction of trying to get away from guaranteeing all the largest banks in Britain" said the chancellor.

But Osborne said that he still had confidence in British banks. "They are not experiencing the kinds of problems that some of the banks in the eurozone are experiencing at the moment."

However, the firm emphasised that the downgrades did not "reflect a deterioration in the financial strength of the banking system".

Moody's applied three catorgaries of downgrade to the financial firms.

Those banks with a "high likelihood" of support from the government, inlcuding RBS and Llyods; those banks or building societies with a "moderate" likelihood of support, such as Nationwide; and institutions with a "low or no" likelihood of support. This category included several building societies, such as Norwich & Peterborough, Nottingham, Principality, Skipton and Yorkshire.

The Building Societies Association called the downgrade a "normalisation" that had "been expected for some time. It does not represent any change in financial strength and it is business as usual across the sector."

RBS said it was "disappointed" that Moody's announcement did not reflect the "significant progress" the bank had made to restructure it finances.

"We do, however, see the removal of implicit government support for the UK banking sector as being a necessary and important step forward as the sector returns to standalone strength," RBS said in a statement.

Nationwide said that Moody's announcement was part of an industry-wide review, and "not a reflection of Nationwide's business model. Nationwide remains one of the strongest and best capitalised financial organisations in the UK".

But analysts have said that we shouldn't over-react to the downgrades, and that people are getting paranoid about UK banking.

"It doesn't have the same exposure to sovereign default and devaluation risk as the rest of Europe. It does have exposure to Ireland, but that is a eurozone country which appears to be doing best in the crisis," said Max King, a portfolio manager at Investec Assest Management.

 

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10 comments

Jobles's picture

You are right Ian, these rating agencies are such a big hoax. In the sub-prime debacle Lehman, Sachs and other such banking giants were given AAA rating by Moody's, SP etc just a few weeks before the collapse.... and Awake! look into CDS or Credit Default Swap and also the SEC's take on short selling.

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Oh... and when asked the rating gurus said it is only their opinion.... OPINION!!!

Awake!'s picture

Ian
agreed rating agencies strange... and it should get looked at- the whole thing stinks actually, but let's not forget that no one HAD to buy this stuff, caveat emptor na ll that.
Buying shares makes money for people who have no interest in the company either, have u something against that?.
i don't understand what is is u HAve aganst shorters- they provide liquidity, tighter prices, help establish a fair value and engender confidence in a market place (under normal conditions- it's trUe that once fear takes hold different rules apply, funny how so many on this site refuse to accept fear has indeed taken hold, i think it's cos they don't want to concede that Uk a safe haven currently...)
And why is it not relevant down the road? fair value is a giod idea

Awake!'s picture

i know about cds, they are legitimate. Nothing wrong with short selling, u can't short sell a company into receivership.
Look, if a company goest o market and raises cash thru a share sale, it has that money in it's coffers, afterwards the share price can fluctuate but if the company invests it;s proceeds wisely, makes stuff/provides a service and turns a profit, then it won't go bust-AND, anyone driving the price down would lose their shirts as investors saw that company making profit, paying divs maybe etc. hell, the company might even vote to buy it's own shares back, again driving the price up. SEC on short selling?!?!?!!/ US is the HOME of short selling. YES YES in 2008 the hedgies caused probs for bank shares but they were pointing out that, erm, the banks had run themselves shambolically.
Now the question should be- why have short selling.
It pretty much sets the right price or capital and also , imagine theer's no 'shorters'. Company chairman decides to sell his shares, but ramps the share price first- your pension fund then buys his shares at the wrong price.
Look, there are many risks right now- one of the biggest is throwing out the babe with the bathwater.
Rating agencies are private companies. they need to start making right calls or they will lose clients, as they have been. new rating agencies are setting up as we speak...

Awake!'s picture

can't believe no one has blamed Osborne for the downgrades!!! lol

Ian5's picture

Ah, maybe we have not paid them enough, how much did the investment banks have to pay to get their sub-prime derivatives rated AAA, No body at any of the rating agenciy's has been really taken to task as yet....why not I wonder? They and the evil practice of short selling are the major force behind the collapse. If the derivatives had been correctly rated a D, the flow of money would have quickly dried up.

Ian5's picture

Its funny how all the agencies made identical mistakes, not ONE of them rated the sub primes below AA, that stinks, and somebody needs to get to the bottom of it. Oh and AWAKE, what you say about corporate capital is true following the initial share issue, but is totally irrelevant a few years down the road. Short selling makes money for people with NO interest in that company.... Your selling shares you do not own, and your not concerned about the companies actual trading status.

Awake!'s picture

agreed ratings failed TOTALLY
nothing evil about short selling- very hea;thy [practice in fact, u don't know what ure talking about

Ian5's picture

sorry, let me see if I've got this correct, you sell stock in a company (which you don't actually own) on the basis that the value of the stock is going to fall, in fact if you sell enough the fall in price becomes a self fulling prophecy. Then you buy these stocks back at a later date to balance the books. Oh no sorry you borrow these stocks and sell them, thats how you put it... from whom do you borrow!!! Somebody obviously that's happy to let you return them at a hopefully, from your point of view , at a greatly reduced value and does not want compensating for this lose. But either way your selling items you do not own in the hope they will loose value.....and jobs, and peoples pension values....no its evil. It should be banned world wide.

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