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Israel Loves Iran: an interview with founder Ronny Edry

"The way to win us is always with the threat of war, because when you have a war coming, nobody’s go

Ronny Edry.
Ronny Edry. Photograph: Camilla Schick

Sitting at his design workspace, 41 year old Ronny Edry looks tired but no less impassioned. Since starting the Israel Loves Iran online anti-war campaign, droves of reporters and broadcasters have come to the small design studio at his home in Tel Aviv.
 
Ronny’s motivation for breaking the silence between his country’s seemingly biggest foe is simple: "I want to make sure that we don’t have to bomb them. I want to make sure we are talking to them and understanding each other. I discovered Iranians are not the enemy. The ones I’m talking to are good people."
 
It’s not surprising the campaign quickly made headlines around the world. Israelis and Iranians have not communicated on any significant scale since before the Iranian revolution in 1979, and today it remains impossible to pick up a phone in Israel and call Iran.
 
But the Iranian people and the Iranian regime are two different ball games. While civilian-designed love posters continue to flow out of Iran and into Ronny’s inbox, it’s also no secret that the Iranian regime continues to enrich uranium beyond 20 per cent without a clearly defined civilian cause, leaving the international community legitimately concerned.
 
"A lot of people are calling me naïve, stupid, counterproductive," Ronny says. "But I’m so far from naive. I was a soldier in a combat unit, I saw things, I know how it looks. Israelis are born ready. We are living in a state that is ready all the time. We have to be.
 
"But you also have to try the other ways," he counters. "You have to make sure to do everything in your power to talk to the other side, rather than just threatening them. Otherwise you’re escalating the rhetoric of war. It’s a circle. You have Ahmadinejad saying 'I’m gonna shoot you,' then Netanyahu says 'no, I’m gonna shoot you first' They build this whole threat dynamic, so that in the end they have to bomb each other. Neither one can face going back home to say 'I was mistaken, I was just trying to be careful'."
 
Potential war with Iran is certainly not the only concern for Israeli citizens. Israel is an expensive place to live. The middle class feeling the squeeze the most, serving first in the army, then competing for oversubscribed university places, moving to cities, and struggling to find jobs and affordable housing.
 
Little wonder last summer saw the biggest social protest rallies in Israel’s short history. It started with Israeli doctors and medical students calling for better pay and outcries over the price of cottage cheese and other basic food stuffs. Soon, tent cities cropped up in major public spaces to protest against expensive housing. Weekly rallies in all the major towns and cities demanded for socioeconomic reform, climaxing with 450,000 Israelis marching in the streets countrywide.
 
As their Arab neighbours overthrew governments, this shows how socioeconomic grievances -- particularly those facing young people -- are a key problem across the region. "We have social problems like any other country. We have to get a better future for ourselves, up and up, for the whole Middle East," Ronny says. "But after living a few years in Israel you kind of feel that all people living in the Middle East are your enemies – Syria, Egypt, Lebanon."
 
Indeed, as the protests came to a head, Netanyahu was simultaneously preoccupied with pushing back against the Palestinian UN statehood bid and defending the south of the country against militant attacks coming from an unruly Sinai border, altogether distracting from Israel’s internal strife. Since last summer, some financial policy reforms have been made, but socioeconomic improvement is yet to be felt. In hindsight, some Israelis are left feeling that their protest leaders made a mistake of remaining too apolitical, with whispers of further protests this summer.
 
Since then, however, Iran has returned to the top of the political agenda. Ronny is sceptical about politicians' motives. "The way to win us is always with the threat of war, because when you have a war coming, nobody’s going to talk about social problems, or loving Iranians. Because now you have to be ready. You have to get the guns ready and everything. And that’s how they’re winning. It’s always been the same dynamic, everywhere. They’re putting you in a box of fear. And when you’re afraid for your children, for your future, you’re willing to do everything. So first you go and vote for the wrong guy, the one who says I’m going to kill them.
 
"And then at the same time all social progress is pushed aside. That’s how it works. Iran is very far from us and is not a day-to-day problem, but the fact that I’m talking about it day-to-day and not talking about my social problems demonstrates it’s a way of making me lose focus on the real problems I have. The price of milk, the price of living in Israel. The fact that I have to have two or three jobs and I’m working so hard to finish the month. These are my real problems.
 
"I think Iran is more for the secret services to deal with. It’s more of a diplomatic problem. We have to communicate. Be it with Egypt, or Lebanon. We have to make an effort. You have to be clever, you have to fight for it. You have to raise your voice."
 
This brings us the top political priority for most Israelis - peace with the Palestinians. Ronny is confident about the outcome.  "Israelis and Palestinians on both sides of the map know that there is going to be two states, it’s just a matter of time. Everybody knows this is going to happen whether you like it or not.  So let’s just make it happen. Let’s just finish it," Ronny says.
 
"But Bibi [Netanyahu], he can’t do it. The day he starts doing it he’s losing power. So he’s going to do everything just to not do it. It’s a distraction, and it works both ways. With Ahmadinejad and his regime, that’s how they’re staying in power in Iran and how they have all the Iranians distracted from their lives: by making Israel the enemy. It’s like they’ve created this situation where Iranians are frightened of Israelis striking them.
 
"But I don’t want to strike them. I want to have a fixed price for milk. Iran, is so, so far away. I want to meet them, to play basketball with them, but not to invade them."
 

14 comments

ThatcherDenzil's picture

Blaming only Israel's politicians and ignoring the Palestinian's leadership uncompromising stance, their insistence on the "rights of return" , ignoring Hamas' big agenda of destroying the Jewish state and replacing it with the greatest Islamic Palestine, is really troubling. Unfortunately and sadly, with the growing threat of extremist, violent. http://www.squidoo.com/best-circular-saw-reviews

Assaf's picture

Iran is a "Day to Day problem" to Israel because it subsidies the terror all around Israel. In that sence, you are very very wrong, Mr. Ronny Edry.

Assaf's picture

Iran is a "Day to Day problem" to Israel because it subsidies the terror all around Israel. In that sence, you are very very wrong, Mr. Ronny Edry.

Assaf's picture

Iran is a "Day to Day problem" to Israel because it subsidies the terror all around Israel. In that sence, you are very very wrong, Mr. Ronny Edry.

Notimagain's picture

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Rachel Merhav's picture

" So let’s just make it (peace) happen. Let’s just finish it," Ronny says.
This sounds so noble and, superficially, logical The problem with this simple "solution" is that one needs two to tango - to make peace there must be willingness from both sides to compromise, not just one, to move on. Blaming only Israel's politicians and ignoring the Palestinian's leadership uncompressing stance, their insistence on the "rights of return" , ignoring Hamas' big agenda of destroying the Jewish state and replacing it with the greatest Islamic Palestine, is really troubling.

Unfortunately and sadly, with the growing threat of extremist, violent

Rachel Merhav's picture

" So let’s just make it (peace) happen. Let’s just finish it," Ronny says.
This sounds so noble and, superficially, logical The problem with this simple "solution" is that one needs two to tango - to make peace there must be willingness from both sides to compromise, not just one, to move on. Blaming only Israel's politicians and ignoring the Palestinian's leadership uncompressing stance, their insistence on the "rights of return" , ignoring Hamas' big agenda of destroying the Jewish state and replacing it with the greatest Islamic Palestine, is really troubling.

Unfortunately and sadly, with the growing threat of extremist, violent

Frank Adam's picture

It was obvious by 1945 there was going to be a Jewish State in Palestine because the religious and Enlightenment guarantees to protect Jews as citizens or subjects had failed badly. Could somebody explain why the Arab parties failed to face reality next door and failed to create a parallel Arab state in Palestine these sixty years?

Why Arab negativism of one sort or other: the Green Line, the Arab refugees of 1948, Jerusalem... has been used as an Arab excuse not to create a state and so knuckle down to serious practical politics instead of posturing ? Garibaldi got his Italian state. Collins and Devalera got their Ireland. Neither as envisioned, but life is never perfect. Remember how Begin got his peace with Egypt with Labour votes as soon as Sadat agreed to recognise Israel's right to be at peace, as self-determined.

Why has Mr Abbas - again - declared he will never sign a peace recognising Israel? "Not in a thousand years!" Why no objections and condemnations to Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks about destroying Israel or otherwise seeing it disappear? Call off the clerical maniacs and we might all be able to get on with social problems at home - not least in the Arab states.

jankaas's picture

"Could somebody explain why the Arab parties failed to face reality next door and failed to create a parallel Arab state in Palestine these sixty years?"

which territory should they take over then Frank? which people should they displace to create this Palestinian state? i had thought that the 2 state solution as per 1976 was the most practical and fair solution, but you have something else in mind....?

Frank Adam's picture

It was obvious by 1945 there was going to be a Jewish State in Palestine because the religious and Enlightenment guarantees to protect Jews as citizens or subjects had failed badly. Could somebody explain why the Arab parties failed to face reality next door and failed to create a parallel Arab state in Palestine these sixty years?

Why Arab negativism of one sort or other: the Green Line, the Arab refugees of 1948, Jerusalem... has been used as an Arab excuse not to create a state and so knuckle down to serious practical politics instead of posturing ? Garibaldi got his Italian state. Collins and Devalera got their Ireland. Neither as envisioned, but life is never perfect. Remember how Begin got his peace with Egypt with Labour votes as soon as Sadat agreed to recognise Israel's right to be at peace, as self-determined.

Why has Mr Abbas - again - declared he will never sign a peace recognising Israel? "Not in a thousand years!" Why no objections and condemnations to Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks about destroying Israel or otherwise seeing it disappear? Call off the clerical maniacs and we might all be able to get on with social problems at home - not least in the Arab states.

Go GG's picture

The reality is that Iranian public don't feel threatened by Israeli public, only by their government via U.S/UK. Iran and israel have never engaged in a war with each other and it should remain as such. My fear is that once that line is crossed, things can never be returned to normal between the two sides. Iran-Israel war must not occur; full stop.

Amir M's picture

Ronny is an amazing person, as a Iranian born living in US, I feel exactely as he does. I travel 4 to 5 times a year toIran, people there dont want war, as a matter of fact Iran never started a war ever in past. I hope more people join this cause and we should all try to prevent war and loss of human lives. Ronny, may God bless you and thank you for having a courage to take stand on this issue.

philodoc's picture

What a breath of fresh air. This gentleman says it all, and he has had the courage to say it. I hope the extremists do not make him suffer for his honesty.

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