What is behind the Israeli mistreatment of African migrants?
Disturbing rhetoric on race from Israeli government ministers.
By Ben White Published 28 May 2012 16:12
African immigrants in Tel Aviv Photograph: MENAHEM KAHANA/AFP/GettyImages
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do calm down dear. as ever you can dish it out but are unable to receive. but receive you will, it's what vermin like you deserve.
Each and every Arab Moslem state is a savage barbaric tyranny. They stone their own women to death. They hang and crucify Gays. In Syria the stab, slut the throats and gauge the eyes out of their own children. why should anyone want to live in some barbaric primitive Islamic state when you can try and get asylum in Israel ukash || ukash
Why is it that you generalise so? Please get your facts straight before making such grossly distorted claims. Yes, there are some Islamic States that are bad but others are nowhere near as extreme as you say. Arabs are semites, why be so anti-semitic?
Another murderous racist attack on Jews in France once again by fundamentalist Moslems. They don't want any Jews in Israel. and they want to kill them in France. it really is time people fought back against these scum or at the very least deport them back to the Islamist s.itholes they came from.
So who's dead in this "murderous" attack? The last time the French "fought back" against North Africans in the early 1960s, dozens of them ended up dead in the Seine courtesy of a former Vichy Police Chief. Is this what you had in mind?
Can't you read? They can either be found, arrested and imprisoned or repatriated (if not French). That's what 'fought back' means. But to wildly clutch at straw man arguments is your speciality.
"Murderous attack" implies someone is dead. Posting sh*te is your speciality.
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just in case you missed it JJJ, you said i never ever ever answer a question, so from 09:16 today;
"ok JJJ, here is as good as anywhere to call your bluff. again...
go on then, ask me a question. a single question that is actually on topic. i will then answer it."
and....?
Specific religious groups have enjoyed a priviledged position within some society's. As "good governance" becomes more allied with secularism, multi-culturalism and fundamental human rights, so religious extremism becomes more prevalent. How can Israel reconcile being both a "secular" and "Jewish" State? Giving up the priviledges that some religions confer upon their membership is difficult. Many religions see themselves as being under attack. In some respects, it is this struggle for fairness, regardless of religion, that has superceded the old "class" battles.
Pose the same question to the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran, the Syrian ARAB Republic, Saudi Arabia which has the KORAN cited on its flag, Egypt, Libya Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, Turkey, Malaysia and Indonesia all of whom claim the necessity for its citizens to abide by Islam and apartheid Pakistan which ethnically cleanses all non-Moslems.
It really doesn't matter which Judeo-Christian based religion (Islam is but one of many) you apply the question to - at the peripheries, they are almost all blighted by the same religious intolerance that originated from Judaism. There are many shades of opinion within each religious sub-set ranging from the tolerant to the intolerant. Much of the religious intolerance in Israel originates from Eastern European migrants, some of whom are classified by Israel as neo-nazi.
I see your point. Each time I go to Israel I see women being stoned in the streets and Gays hung from lamposts. I see churches being bombed and Christian being ethnically cleansed. Hence why people like you continually harp on about Israel and never have a bad word to say about it's cuddly neighbors.
May I suggest you get your head out of your ass the next time you comment.
Sunbeam, I lived for nearly 15 years in the Middle East ~ I never saw a church being bombed nor Christians being ethnically cleansed. My Catholic and Anglican friends there went peacefully to Churches to go through their rituals from a Bronze Age form of worship. Indians and Pakistanis worked together in relative harmony. Gays were not hung from lamp-posts. Wherever those atrocities, you refer to, do happen, it is wrong and should be condemned. As a mere "goy" of the "goyim", might I suggest that your attitudes and religious convictions might be symptomatic of the problem?
what utter crap. In Iraq hundreds of thousands of Christians have been ethnically cleansed. Scores of their churches have been bombed. In Egypt a terror campaign has been going on for years against Coptic Christians whose churches have been systematically destroyed. In apartheid Pakistan Christians have been sentenced to death for practicing their own religion. In Nigeria, Muslims have been blowing up churches and systematically murdering Christians for the last 4 years. In Lebanon more than 3 million Maronite Christians have been ethnically cleansed. In Bethlehem the Palestinian Authority has orchestrated the ethnic cleansing of Christians. In islamofascist Iran Gays are hung from lamposts in public squares (try YouTube - they enjoy filming Gays being hung!) In Gaza the penalty for being Gay is death by crucifixion. etc etc etc.
and in your 15 years in the ME you've somehow missed all of this? I suspect your lying your little Islamist head off.
Do you live for hatred? What a sad, despicable world you must inhabit. You do not even verify your e-mail address on this site, are you that afraid? Are you a simple EDL propagator of Zionist propaganda or do you really believe your one-sided tale of horrors? It only demonstrates that one of several enemies of human progress can be religion. Goy, incidentally, is Hebrew for gentile and "goyim" is what all non-Jews are collectively known as. According to Jewish teachings, the "Goyim" may be killed without redress as their only purpose is to serve the "Chosen" people.
Another Nazi. Blimey! Entryism in full force. And the NS allows this twaddle by Nazis.
You are obviously another twisted Islamist product of racist filth taught in some backward Jew-hating, Christian - loathing Madrassa in apartheid Pakistan.
Can't you do any better than that?
You must be new here. This is standard fare from this docked dick arschloch.
Using the Muslims like Hitler used the Mufti, Armi? You are the biggest racist Nazi on this site.
You back smoking the teabags again ? Insults from Zionist vermin really don't have much of a sting.
Why is the NS censoring comments? Jankaas posted on United Nations Resolutions. I responded and the powers-that-be here didn't like the response because it showed Jankaas in a bad light. So what do they do? They remove both our posts!
Stalin, your heirs are working for the NS.
cheap trick JJJ.
Next time I want to know the name of American rock groups from the 70s, I'll know who to ask. Stay away from politics.
"politics".....hilarious, you think you know politics. your posts show no evidence of this.
The Israeli political scene includes many parties which have extreme racist, fascist and ultra religious views. Some of these parties are included in the Israeli government because of their PR voting system so it should come as little surprise that racism appears to be rife in the Jewish state.
Not by any chance 'Sir Oswald Mosely' the leader of British fascism in the 1930's ? How fitting that you have resurrected yourself to attack Jews and support islamofascism. Who next Mehdi/jackass/Arminius - Himmle perhaps?
and the little fish takes the bait.....
Sieg Mohammed Heil!
So who is using the family brain cell tonight numpty?
And the Jew hating scum Arminius has to resort to multiple identities.
A bit like yourself then, your piece of Zionist vermin.
Armi, your mental illness is showing.
Your the one with the tin foil hat.
For the sake of world peace, an end to terrorism and racial hatred, the apartheid state of Pakistan must cease to exist.
Why does the NS censor anti-fascist comments but retain the islamoNazi comments of Arminius? I thought that now with Mehi "non-Moslems live like animals" Hasan gone a more balanced picture would be entertained. Instead we have 'Arminius' who has described Jews as ''zhids' and complained that the Holocaust was "incomplete" permitted to comment with his islamofascist anti-Jew crap, but anti-racists and anti-fascists deleted! Has the NS been infiltrated by the BNP/Respect/ al Qaida ?
Arminius and his islamoNazi hatred have no place in a left wing site.
Why not write to the New Statesman Chief editor rather than post this guff? The NS has not been infiltrated by anyone but all are allowed to post even obvious trolls like yourself and EDL/BNP fascists like Julia Harris and JJJ. You have already posted enough vile comments to have yourself permanently banned from many other media sites several times over so you should be grateful that the NS continues to indulge you by allowing you to express the contents of your diseased mind.
Arminius, leaving aside the pot calling the kettle black in your comment, the NS most certainly did censor posts here today. The fact that the NS allows people to post doesn't mean that they don't censor, for no reason at all.
Big deal. You are lucky that they allow any of your posts.
Look who's criticizing the BNP: the same Schweinhund, the same Schmutz who defended the Waffen-SS. Yes, Arminius the Jew hater who had a friendly conversation wth Jew hater and Holocaust denier 'Mike' on the Denis McShane thread.
But Schmutz is Schmutz and never changes, even when it posts as GO GG (the use of the word 'boy' is common to both posters) or Sir Oswald (Mosley).
That would be the same thread where you didn't know the difference between the 15th and 19th Division but then there is no requirement for accuracy when the only intention is to smear.
The US Displaced Persons Commission in September 1950 declared that:
"The Baltic Waffen SS Units (Baltic Legions) are to be considered as separate and distinct in purpose, ideology, activities, and qualifications for membership from the German SS, and therefore the Commission holds them not to be a movement hostile to the Government of the United States.".
If I have defended the Waffen-SS (and it should be borne in mind that your memory of previous threads is usually poor) then so has the US.
So your an EDL man then?
Interesting that the islamoNazi Arminius is proud to adopt the identity of the leader of British fascism yet the NS feels no need to ban this racist islamist scum from its comment thread? Does antone need more evidence of the close affinity between Islamism and fascism?
If the NS bans anyone it should be racist troll dross like you. But bans are not the order of the day and even deluded scum like you are permitted a voice here.
You are the biggest antisemite on these boards yet you have the sheer Chutzpah to call others racist.
These Islamist scum don't just hate and want to kill Jews: they hate Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, the secular, women, Gays, Americans - just about anyone who refuses to be subservient to the 'teachings' of their 'prophet'.
Said the pot to the kettle. Zionists are racists, liars and killers. Always have been, always will be. Can't all be down to the genital mutilation they suffer as children.
Go stone some of your dreadfully ugly women to death Moseley Islamist maggot.
But why are you posting under Sir Oswald? It's utterly bizarre. One of the rules in this ludicrous game here is that anyone posting under a multiple identity makes themselves look stupid. I can't figure it out.
So you admit you are stupid then? Come on, confess.