Why Osborne’s "granny tax" makes sense
It is right for older people to contribute to deficit reduction.
By Kayte Lawton Published 22 March 2012 14:39
Today's newspapers are full of predictable criticism for George Osborne's only Budget surprise - removing the higher tax allowances enjoyed by people aged 65 and over. The Chancellor has bungled this announcement, slipping it into the budget statement as a 'simplification' when it is clearly a tax rise of around £200 a year for millions of pensioners. But is it really such as a bad idea?
Older people have been relatively protected from the spending cuts imposed by the coalition. The young have taken the brunt of the pain, seeing an end to their educational maintenance allowances and the scrapping of the Future Jobs Fund. Youth unemployment has topped 1 million, the highest since records began. Working families have already seen their budgets stretched as tax credits for low earners are frozen and support for childcare reduced. Many older people enjoyed windfall gains from the house price boom that has priced many younger families out of the market.
This is not a crude argument that pits young against old. But as the population continues to age, putting extra pressure on public services, parties on all sides will have to make tough choices about tax and spend. Asking older people to contribute to tackling the deficit and shoring up the country's tax base in the long-term is not unreasonable. This is particularly true if we bear in mind that only a fifth of pensioners are poor - retirement no longer means the life of poverty that it might have a hundred years ago when the higher allowances were introduced.
"Granny tax": which pensioners lose out?

Removing the age-related allowances also makes sense because, on average, it takes much more from better off pensioners. It is true that the wealthiest fifth of pensioners do not lose much. They are not entitled to the higher allowances, which are reduced as income rises above £24,000. But IPPR analysis shows that the poorest fifth also lose very little. Most have incomes below the allowance so will not be affected by the freeze. The chart above shows that the biggest losses will be felt by the second richest fifth of pensioner households (those in the 4th income quintile). They are more likely to have two pensioners with incomes above the allowance but below the income limit.
Osborne's pleas of simplification have not played well, but he is right that age-related allowances add huge complexity to the tax system. This is important because it means that many pensioners do not even claim the higher allowance they are entitled to. An official report in 2009 estimated that 3.2 million older people failed to claim the extra allowance they were entitled to, which is over half of all older taxpayers. There are simpler and better targeted ways of supporting pensioners struggling on low incomes, that do not rely on people claiming complex allowances.
Kayte Lawton is a Senior Research Fellow at IPPR
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35 comments
Seeing Osborne on the Andrew Marr Show, made me feel sick. He is so much up his own ass, I wanted to reach across and smack his fat face. Why didn't Marr SLAUGHTER him, but then, he's another creepy guy, so much in love with himself. Have you noticed how Osborne and Cameron have both adopted the splayed fingers gesture, supposedly to show that "they're hiding nothing"? They really are mistaking forebearance with stupidity.
You should, mate. One day you may arrive at venerable old age, you know, when you lose your hair, get all wrinkly, when your knees won't let you straighten up from a crouch, you start getting illnesses and your physical strength starts deterioting, who will champion you? Not the heathen atheists in government, that's for sure!
Responding to Terence Twatbrain.
@ Fraziel
How wonderful that you are so well off, do you run your own business then? A couple of hundred a year is not miniscule to a lot of people. This ebbing away of pensioners entitlements is like a slippery pole, and if allowed to continue, your pension will be worthless when you become eligible. This lack of foresight in the younger, still working population, allows the government to exploit an area that seems far-off to them, but will creep up relentlessly. Or are you too well off, that it will hardly affect YOU?
I'm appalled by your lack of respect towards the elderly. You too, will grow old, and would you like the thought of the then younger generation saying all people over seventy should fade out? Only God has the right to say when a person should leave this earth. Presuming your "old dears" comment include men over seventy, let me remind you that many fought in the second world war to give us the freedom to exist in a democracy, otherwise we'd all be doffing our hats to pictures of Herr Hitler. As people grow older, they get wiser, make more sensible decisions and are more philanthropic towards their fellowmen, but in your case, there seems to be a measure of retarded growth. If by "Ga Ga"you are referring to elderly people with dementia, it's an unfortunate disease of the mind, but there is much hope for a cure in the near future, and these people have every bit the right to live as you have, as I said, God decides. Get a life? You get a life, become spiritually aware, take responsibility for the things you say and do, and grow up!
The above comment was in response to Robert Taggart's abusive, ageist comment.
Malty, matey, you say " only God has the right..."
That one sentence lost you the argument - when those who have no reasoned argument to defend their case, where do they go from there ? - they reach for God !
Mr Taggart, I assume from your comments that you are an Atheist, as well as an Ageist and disrespecter of other people's life experiences and beliefs. You are also, what I believe the modern expression to be, an internet troll. I have a wonderful life, not financially well-off at all, but rich in children and grandchildren who can't do enough for me to ease my advanced years. I would start feeling contrite very soon, if I were in your shoes, because you'll have too much to answer to, when you return to the Hereafter and that would make you even more sad than you are now.
Atheist ? - Devoutly !
Gladysh (not a mispselling of Gladys ? - what with your old age, infirmity... !), you say you are 'rich' in regards to your children and grandchildren - unless you brought them up in penury - how could you possibly be 'rich' ?!
Moi ? - no sprogs or grand sprogs - no regrets for choosing not to further clutter this country and planet !
Sad ? Moi ?? - happy-go-lucky morelike !
There's a way out for you, Robbie, dear boy. All we have to do is go to war, preferably a war that needs hand to hand combat fighting, so when you are called up, you can fall on your own sword. Pensioners can stay safely at home, enjoying their little bit of pension.
Soldiering ? - Moi ?? - too old !
Soldiering be a mugs game - for zeroes not heroes - they put their fate in the hands of the vain.
Pensioners - not without their uses - human shields ?!
The problem with the above article is that it assumes that this change (effectively a cut) will level the playing field. However since it seems to based on 'justifying' a tax cut for the wealthy this old v young is irrellevant. It's rich v poor.
BTW Given the way things are going the Governments plan is to expand the deficit.
Rather discussing who pays what wouldn't comparing take home pay cast both light and truth on the subject. I'm happy for someone who worked four times as hard as I do to take home four times the salary.... but fifty times, a hundred times?
Come on Gideon we are only "all in this together" when we now put back as much as we took out in the good years. Cough up, Giddy; and have a word with Tony, he's made a few bob over the years.
I suspect the freezing of pensioners allowance will only worry those with something to worry about . Do i look bothered ?
@FP.
Moi has a problem ?
Oh contraire... Blighty has the problem - far too many old dears are being kept alive by the NHS well beyond their 'natural' lifespan. So much so that they finish off their lives as they began them - GA GA. Had they 'moved on' at a reasonable age -70 ?- they would most likely have avoided the humiliation of going GA GA and would have saved the country / taxpayers an absolute fortune.
Death and taxes... Get used to it, get over it, and, while you still have one - get a life !
Letting inflation be the thief of time and the fall guy didn't work for George this time.
Our group of oldies knew immediately that George was pulling a fast one - the young heir apparent.
Granny basher. Wot about Granddads?
We all know that crudely the over 55s own the bulk of the UK - conservatively 60%. However, a goodly proportion of the older generation are also the poorest in the UK.
We have listened to eminent economists claiming that many people have been taken out of 'tax'.
Surprise, surprise, when we discovered we still had to pay that flat tax, stealth tax as the Tories named it, VAT.
Oh, and don't forget the old-time rates, which became a tax on the community thanks to Michael Haseltine.
Mike must be one of the undead - Osborne is now appointing him head cook and bottle washer.
Some of us are housing association tenants who will never own the bricks and mortar they live in - yet we pay the same as home-owners. Consume the same services, yes - but community tax in much the same way as rates is based on property valuation.
Yes, it's not that far from a flat tax either.
Rich is rich - pensioner does not come into it. Most pensioners are poor or near poor. Confusing the issue by mentioning 'Rich pensioners' doesn't help.
Everybody gets old - even the rich.
We are still happy to see the rich(pensioner) get it where it hurts and damn the expense.
Did the Accountants predict this sleight of hand?
Generation Z
The IFS, and others who have said it, are wrong in their assertion that old people have not yet been hit by this government's austerity measures and cuts. There has already been a double whammy which has largely been done by stealth and so Osbourn et al have got away with it:
1. changing inflation measure for annual upgrade of pension from RPI to the always lower CPI - this sounds technical and so inconsequential but in practice means the statutory commitment that pensions rise each year in line with inflation now delivers a lower rise as the definition of inflation has been changed - several penioners' bodies have tried to test in court whether this is a sort of breach of contract by the government but so far it looks as if the government are getting away with it.
2. reduction in the annual winter fuel payment - again they have done this by stealth by making it sound technical that the winter fuel payment is actually £300 for over 75 year olds and that Labour had added an extra £100 for a few years - so when people over 75 got £400 last winter and £300 this winter the government said it was completely wrong to claim that was a 25% cut but that they were really being caring and keeping winter fuel payment the same. More stealth, more money taken away from old people.
Maybe as they got away with it twice without many people giving any support to old people, then it gave them confidence to do it again and cut more - but 3rd time lucky, people have noticed this time.
There is one complication to pensioners tax affairs, the way the tax code is worked out as the OAP is not taxed before being received by pensioner, but it is taxable. So the revenue gather the pension income for every pensioner from Minister of pensions (All pensioners have an individual pension, unlike the child allowance which is the same for all}. The revenue deducts the individual's pension from his/her personal allowance, and that forms the basis of the pensioners tax code on any other income they have. For those who remember the revenue's problems with under/overpaid tax over a number of years discovered last year when a new computer was bought into play, this was principally involved with this calculation. My wife is repaying money for one year, and got a refund for another. Simplification is needed.
Robert Taggart - your comments are sick. Why does the moderator allow this? You would not allow this abuse of other groups in society, - gays, women, muslims - so why old people?
I don't object particularly to the removal of this allowance. I do object, though, to Osborne's description of his action as a 'simplification' and his insistence that 'no one will be worse off in cash terms' - while the treasury claims it will save £1 billion each year.
It is quite fair that Pensioners should contribute. Everyone else has to and with pension credit most pensioners have never had it so good. I am contributing with years of pay freezes and 60 k off my pension. A couple of hundred a year is miniscule in comparison.
Same moral pygmies in Government as in the Banks!
@maribach, the mods allow it because its not illegal and unlike , i presume, lefties like yourself they allow freedom of speech, even if some find it offensive. And rightly so.Don't like it? Argue back instead of whining about censorship.
I repeat, Taggart, you have a problem. How do you feel about blacks and gays?
@ Fraziel1. Cheers ?!
@ FP. No, I repeat, BLIGHTY has the problem... As for other 'groups' - irrelevant to this discussion - sorted !
Where is the windfall gain from the house price boom? So I bought a house. All I can do is live in it, it doesn't put petrol in the car or steak on the table.
And who do you think is paying for the record low interest rates the young are enjoying now but we savers? In buying my 'house boom' property I saw interest rates of 15% and never less than 8% over 30years.
Between record low interest rates and high inflation, boosted by QE, I reckon the last three years has cost me about 60K on my savings. Not a bad contribution to tackling the deficit methinks!! And that doesn't include the income tax, VAT etc paid like everybody else.
Since needy youth took a hit, it's only "fair" that the same be done to modest pensioners? That's not logic. Keep the 50% tax, introduce a new one on financial transactions, and restore the cuts to young and old alike.
If the old dears are not willing to 'call it a day' after three score years and ten - then YES - make the old farts pay !
Dear me, Taggart, you have a problem.
Mr Osborne claims the pensioners are getting the biggest increase for many years but he forgets to mention it was triggered by high inflation, probably due to his government's policy of QE. Pensioners have also taken the hit on their savings with low interest rates and high inflation, and of course they have to pay the increased VAT like everyone else. Meanwhile Mr Osborne gives his friends, the super-rich on bloated salaries, a massive increase in their take home pay.
These comments are complete bunkum written by someone
Who does not understand basic finance
Freezing the threshold for those over 65 will mean that, when the basic threshold is raised for everyone in the next couple of years any pensioner with an income of over £12500 lose out. I do not describe that income as rich.
Well Mary, if your house is your own and your children are gone and don't need your money, you're not rich but you're not on the breadline either. You can't take it with you. Study the gee-gees and maximise your income.
Arguing about who is the most deserving, the least well off is simply falling into a Tory trap. Divide and rule. This government is great at setting sections of society against each other. So far, we've had public sector against private; the employed against the unemployed; north versus south; combined with welfare and disability bashing. Now, it's young against old. While we are divvying up the pain, the rich are making hay and laughing all the way to the bank.
This whole granny tax debate has taken the attention away from just how hypocritical the whole Tory attitude is. While Gideon is preaching about stopping tax avoidance, he is fiddling with the tax haven rules , so that in the next tax year, this April, multi-nationals can avoid paying tax in other countries. It will cost the British taxpayer £1 billion and the developing nations £4 billion.
99% of us are in it together and as long as we argue amongst ourselves about who is the worst off, Gideon and his millionaire backers will continue to hold sway.
Claiming this as a necessary simplification of taxes is rather disingenuous of Osborne, when he has, at the same time, introduced far more complex arrangements to get him out of the hole he created with child benefits!
And to assert that it's too complex for may to claim is also untrue - it's done automatically by the Inland Revenue when you do your annual tax return.