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No EU member state should be honouring members of the biggest Jew-killing machine in world history.
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Facts from Wikipedia:
- "only 15-20% of the soldiers serving in the legion were actual volunteers."
- "The Latvian Legion was not directly involved in the Holocaust, since it was conscripted more than a year after Latvian Jews were executed or sent to concentration camps."
- "Soldiers serving in the Legion did not share Nazi ideology and upon conscription were not required to swear loyalty to Germany or Hitler."
- "Legionnaires hoped to fight off the Soviet Union ... then turn its arms against Nazi Germany"- "Latvians ... believed that Western powers ... would come to their aid as they had in 1918-1920. They were unaware that Churchill and FDR had consigned the Baltics to Stalin."
- "during the Soviet period it was generally acknowledged that Latvian Legion soldiers were neither Nazis nor war criminals, which sharply contrasts with the current stance of Russia"
Arminius who is the westminster cartel? Are you referring to your royal highness?
JJ - Get lost (much politer than f off don't you think). I am not allied to anyone here and I simply posted a link to show that Churchill was far from being the heroic saviour of British mythology.
Why do you have to behave like such a weasel? Surly your Zionist puppet masters expect more of you.
The Latvian Fatherland and Freedom Party deserves British allies with deep roots in the former mining communities, in the women’s suffrage movement, in the 1945 General Election victory, and elsewhere.
We are unsullied by the weird cult of Winston Churchill. Instead, we can and do condemn his carve-up of Europe with Stalin. Just as we condemn genocidal terrorism against Slavs and Balts no less than genocidal terrorism against Arabs, or the blowing up of British Jews going about their business as civil servants, or the photographed hanging of teenage British conscripts with barbed wire. Just as we condemn Ronald Reagan’s laying of a wreath at an SS cemetery in Germany, and the Clintons’ annual wreath-laying at Confederate memorials in Arkansas. Just as we condemn SS revivalism from Denmark and Flanders to Bosnia and Kosovo. And just as we condemn the neo-Nazi cesspit that was the 1980s Radical Right. Whatever happened to the 1980s Radical Right?
The Polish Law and Justice Party deserves better British allies. Like the Catholic and other Labour MPs, including John Smith, who fought tooth and nail against abortion and easier divorce. Like the Methodist and other Labour MPs, including John Smith, who fought tooth and nail against deregulated drinking and gambling. Like those, including John Smith, who successfully organised (especially through USDAW) against Thatcher’s and Major’s attempts to destroy the special character of Sunday and of Christmas Day, delivering the only Commons defeat of Thatcher’s Premiership.
And like the trade unionists who battled to secure paternal authority in families and communities by securing its economic base in high-waged, high-skilled, high-status male employment, frequently marching behind banners that depicted Biblical scenes and characters.
The Czech Civic Democrats deserve British allies like the trade unionists who have spent decades defending the high-waged, high-skilled, high-status jobs of the working class. Not for us the restriction of travel to the rich, or the arresting of economic development in the poorer parts of the world.
And they all deserve British allies like the Labour MPs who mostly voted against Heath’s Treaty of Rome, who all voted against Thatcher’s Single European Act, and who voted against Major’s Maastricht Treaty in far greater numbers than the Tories, including the only resignation from either front bench in order to do so.
Those parties need these British allies in order to call them away from neoliberal economics and neoconservative foreign policy, both of which have in any case collapsed. Nothing could be more destructive of national self-government, or traditional family values, or the historical consciousness of a people.
mike - The Waffen-SS was many things but a crusading army of volunteers against Bolshevism was not one of those things. Anti-Communism was a motivating factor for many in the Waffen-SS but it did not fight exclusively in the East nor was it composed solely of volunteers. Your version of the history of the Waffen-SS is as much a distortion as that of MacShane.
mike - The Westminster gangsters has nothing to do with that German woman in Buckingham Palace but rather the British establishment politicians who a desperate to maintain the status quo. Not for nothing was Britain referred to as Perfidious Albion; an example of the way they operate is the McCrone report of 1974 which showed that an independent Scotland would have one of the strongest economies in Europe and be as wealthy as Switzerland. The report was kept top secret by all of the political parties at Westmister (save the SNP)for the next 30 years. In the meantime, Scotland was used as a guinea pig for Tory policies such as the Poll Tax and was turned into a post-industrial wasteland, whilst North Sea oil revenues headed south.
Many countries have Christian ceremonies all the time, yet religion has caused millions of deaths too.
Arminius that makes total sense to me politicians are always exacting the money from the people especially when they are zionists which most of them are but as far as the ss I think I am way closer to the truth than what I was taught in high school ten years ago? Maybe I am wrong but I'm not afraid to admit that to a fellow like yourself but somebody who resorts to killing the messenger because he is afraid of the truth that is something else have you ever heard of leon degrelle I have read his works and he portrays the ss in the way that I have in fact a lot of what I know comes from him but I know for a fact there were blacks and muslim divisions in the ss so this whole racist thing seems to be a reversal of the jews own attitude towards their hosts whom they constantly seem to think they can lord it over I believe the jews first seek to inflict injuries on nations they have been welcomed in stalin was a jew like lenin and trotsky and kreuschov and gorbachov and yeltsin
Oh, and what do you have against Ante Pavelic? You cheered on his avowed successor when they renewed their alliance with the jihadis in order to dismember Yugoslavia, including creating the state of Bosnia-Herzegovina which constitutionally bans Jews (and Gypsies) from the Senate and the Presidency. The Croats there are ruing the day as Izetbegovic's horrific vision becomes a reality.
You will not even capitalise the C in "Communist", for fear of "the canard of equivalency". What "canard"? And what makes you think that you know so much better than the people who had to live under them both because, in a deal strinkingly reminiscent of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, Churchill had signed them over from Hitler to the man whom he, Churchill, had dubbed "Uncle Joe"? You did this not long ago, justifiably objecting to the erection of a fully funded Europarty for the Far Right when the Stalinists have had one for years without protest from you.
You are a stupid halfwitted piece of excrement off of someone's shoe.
Would it be David Irving's by any chance, before you start accusing me of being anything like you, learn to read and write or is it too late in your case, probably so you low BNP lover.
My uncle George was amongst the first British Troops to liberate Belsen and he had nightmares for the rest of his life after what he had seen. I am ashamed to share this land with something like you.
Mike - Of course I have heard of Leon Degrelle and have met a couple of his soldiers when I lived in Germany. But his was one tiny unit in an army of over 900,000 that was not even part of the Waffen-SS until mid-1943. Besides Degrelle was a Fascist politician long before he was a soldier. Contrast him with another Waffen-SS soldier I once lived beside. Henry was an Estonian schoolboy who was more or less press ganged into German service on the way home from school at the age of 14. He was trained as a Flakfelfer (anti-aircraft gunner) and ended up manning a 12.5 cm gun defending Lubeck against RAF bombers. In April 1945 he was sent to a barracks in Denmark and issued a Waffen SS uniform being told that he was now in the replacement battalion of the Estonian Legion. Sweeping generalisations about the Waffen-SS such as those written by Degrelle are distortions of the reality, convincing as they may seem being woven in with his writings on actual combat on the Eastern front. It was not all crusading anti-bolsheviks any more that it was the biggest Jew-killing machine in world history as this crook MacShane would have us believe. Sometimes you have to look beyond the propaganda.
The Latvians had been under Soviet occupation for years. For them to take up arms against their oppressor for me is perfectly understandable. The Germans promised them a free Latvia at the defeat of the Soviet Union. (I'm sure that would have happened) The Latvian veterans of war on the Eastern front were not Nazis. They were fighting for their country. These guys were soldiers and not to be confused with other Latvians who were as bad as the Nazis.
Oh dear oh dear
According to Arminius and JJ, I'm a troll, I had hoped that you might find some common ground, all you are willing to do is argue and agree to argue there really is no hope for any understanding or long term peace with peoople like you and the halfwit Mike antwhere in Europe, get a life you sad peoople.
Arminius what do you make of degrelles portayal of hitlers social revolutions and justice I understand that the germans wages were double or triple there neighbors and he was the first to institute time and a half for overtime and also payed vacations he was instrumental in reversing the economy 2 years of sound economic policies placed germany back into the game or whatever right and he also came up with a policy of home loans cancelled for child births on child 25% 2 50% and 4 children the complete cancellation of a home loan was this not a byproduct of eliminating the international bankers / jewish financiers?
With regard to your allegations of 'inacuracies and fallacies':
1. Where in the article or the letter contained within it does it say that the veterans taking part in the march do allow people that were involved or suspected of being involved in the murder of Jews to participate in the march?
2. What is your opinion on the words of the Latvian Prime Minister quoted in the piece?
3. The article is not about the crimes of Stalin but about the attempt to silence the memories and rehabilitate the Latvian enablers of the Holocaust in Latvia. So why muddy the waters?
4. What has this point got to do with the message of the article? Do you think that the atrocities against the Jews can be excused because the collaborators were 'not fighting Hitler in their minds'? This isn't a piece about power politics but about one woman's fight to prevent the rehabilitation of the murderers of her relations. And the Latvian government isn't doing a thing to stop it.
Arminius is it not true that civilian designated cities like dresden were firebombed mercilessly resulting in half a million deaths overnight in one city alone dresden and that it was designated as a child city and other such cities designated for civilians and untouchable according to the geneva convention were bombed anyway? So reality kind of shows how even if the german were as bad as you are led to believe and they were not but pretend they were the allies were far worse in what they did right? and what I've gathered from degrelles book hitler born at versailles germany really was destroyed in ww1 because it was too much of an economic rival and really bore no blame for the war but were destroyed by the unjust treaty deliberately
Stuart Eels, I'm sorry that mike can't respond to you, he's just had an orgasm, having heard the news about the killings of the Jews in France.
mike - This has nothing to do with the Waffen-SS and like I said Degrelle was a politician with his own agenda.
Hitler's economy was in part fuelled by rearmament and it will remain unknown how the Nazi economy would have fared in the long term. If you are looking for someone to debate the ins and outs of Nazi fiscal policy with I'm afraid you've come to the wrong shop.
mike - Axis forces committed atrocities just as Allied forces did but this does not prove that Degrelle was some sort of all seeing all knowing guru. Other Waffen-SS men have admitted that they probably know less about the Waffen-SS than post war historians as they were after all engaged in combat rather than concerned with the details of the organisation as a whole. In this respect Degrelle was no different. Some members of the Waffen SS were not even aware they were members until after the war such as the XV. Kosaken Kavallerie Korps.
Come on then mike give me the link my learned, little foot soldier of the BNP, show the world where Winston Churchill said the things you claim he said. I do hope you can find an adult to show you how to post it.
Your semi-literate rant at me confirms you are on a par with the halfwits that we took on in Plymouth last year, no you can't be it seems you need a day and a half to form a reply in the empty space between your ears, at least they had the courage to get out on the streets. You however probably crouch over your computer all day with a can of Cider waging an imaginary war, while drawing your dole money and blaming everyone else for the fact that you can't be bothered to get out there and get a job. Oh I forgot most employers want people who are able to read and write.
Denis MacShane is MP for Rotherham and was a minister at Foreign and Commonwealth Office