Israel Loves Iran: a peace movement is born in Tel Aviv
As Israel's leaders continue the drumbeat for war, protestors take to the streets.
By Samira Shackle Published 26 March 2012 12:10
If recent statements by Israel's leaders are anything to go by, a strike on Iran seems almost inevitable. Now, the drumbeat for war has led to the emergence of a nascent anti-war movement in the country.
Over the weekend, about 1,000 protesters took to the streets of Tel Aviv to urge the government not to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. While the demonstration was relatively small, it appears to be in step with the public mood across the country.
Israel Loves Iran, a Facebook group spreading a saccharine message of peace, has become a media sensation over the last fortnight. Attracting more than 40,000 followers, the group states: "To the Iranian people, To all the fathers, mothers, children, brothers and sisters. For there to be a war between us, first we must be afraid of each other, we must hate. I'm not afraid of you, I don't hate you." A YouTube video posted by one of the creators, graphic designer Ronnie Edry, has notched up well over 30,000 views.
While the campaign has garnered the usual criticisms about "clicktivism" which makes little real difference, it is an important attempt to humanise the other side (sadly unusual in the Middle East), and an expression of the fact that much of the Israeli public do not support their government's stance on this issue.
This is borne out by recent opinion polls, which show that a majority of Israelis oppose an attack on Iran. This month, a poll by Tel Aviv University's Guttman Centre found that 63 per cent of Israelis strongly or moderately oppose unilateral attack by Israel on Iran. Another poll, by Dahaf (an Israeli pollster), found that just 19 per cent supported a unilateral strike, while 42 per cent said they supported an attack only if it had US backing.
Whether Israel's leaders take heed remains to be seen; even if the movement continues to gain traction, it seems unlikely.
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Israel is run by a right wing military cabal where elections simply rubber stamp the wishes of the military dictatorship. The idea that Israel supports the gay community is just another one of those banal PR strategies designed to improve Israel's image abroad. It is high time that those pea brian halfwits stopped supporting Israel like compliant slaves and faced up to the ugly terrorist state that it is; a state built on land stolen from the Palestinians. http://www.grantsforcollege101.com/
Zionism Is Nobody's Friend
By Judy Andreas
JudyAndreas.com
11-29-11
" I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." The New Freedom. Woodrow Wilson, 1913
What was this power to which Wilson referred? Why was it talked about in hushed tones and behind closed doors?
Our public has been and continues to be duped. It is a process which begins early and is unrelenting. It begins in homes and schools. It begins on the radio and television. It begins in the print media. And, ultimately, a Pavlovian reaction occurs; man is no longer a critical thinker.
Man has become a machine. I know the process all too well; I was a part of it for more years than I care to admit. And now that I am able to see beyond the curtain, even if only partially, I want nothing more then to alert people to the game that is being played at their expense.
Jews have played an important role in this duping drama and yet, the average Jew remains ignorant of what is transpiring. The average Jew has been effectively brainwashed by cries of anti-Semitism and pictures of the Jewish Holocaust The average Jew lives in a state of fear and anxiety and feels a part of the victim class. No matter how much power is amassed, the average Jew feels one step away from extinction.
There is always a threat hanging over his head. Another swastika appears on a Synagogue. Another "suicide bomber" manages to get through the labyrinth of checkpoints in Israel. (if you know anything about the checkpoints, you will find this a bit difficult to believe ) Well placed occurrences keep the average Jew vulnerable to this "power." And what is this power? ZIONISM.
"Zionism is a political movement that arose in the latter part of the 1800's. Initially it referred to the effort of certain Jewish people to establish a Jewish nation in the land of Palestine. But that term has changed over the years. Today it applies to those who want to expand the borders of what was already established. It refers to those who think nothing of putting their own interests ahead of the interests of any nation in which they reside." Stranger Than Fiction by Dr. Albert D Pastore
It is unfortunate that there are those who believe that all Jews are supporters of Zionism. The truth is that there are an increasing number of Jews who have spoken out and continue to speak out against this dangerous geo political movement. Included among them are John Sack, Alfred Lilienthal, Benjamin Freedman, Israel Shamir, Israel Shahack, Norman Finkelstein, Henry Makow, Ralph Schoenman, Lenni Brenner, Victor Ostrovsky, Henry Klein, Jack Bernstein and Gilad Atzmon. (to name a few) In addition, many other Jewish voices have risked loss of family, friends and jobs. And, they have suffered vicious attacks from groups like the "Anti-Defamation League" (ADL) which, despite its appealing name, specializes in slander and defamation.
Dr.Albert D. Pastore quotes Jack Bernstein:
"I am well aware of the tactics YOU, my Zionist brethren, use to quiet anyone who attempts to expose any of your subversive acts. If the person is gentile, you cry "you're anti-Semitic," which is nothing more than a smokescreen to hide your actions. But if a Jew is the person doing the exposing, you resort to other tactics:
First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be given widespread distribution. If the information starts reaching too many people, you ridicule the information and the person giving the information. If that doesn't work, your next step is character assassination. If the author or speaker hasn't been involved in sufficient scandal, you are adept at fabricating a scandal against the person or persons. If none of these are effective, you are known to resort to physical attacks. But NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong. First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be given widespread distribution.
Bernstein challenged the ADL to an open debate on television. Not surprisingly, the challenge was declined.
The Nuturei Karta is a group of Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem who refuse to recognize the existence of the "State of Israel" In their literature they write:
"Zionist propagandists are always given to bullying tactics and censorship. It is very helpful in this regard to read former Congressman Findley's book, "They Dared to Speak Out". It is the sorry record of the immense resources that the Zionist lobby invested in destroying the careers of politicians all across the United States who had voiced some qualms about this nation's subservience to Israel.
Of course, anti - Zionist Jews of all political and religious orientations have long experienced the lash of the Zionist movement. In 1924, a scholarly Dutch Jew, Dr. Jacob Israel de Hahn, who functioned as a secretary of Rabbi Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld (1849 - 1932 ) Chief Rabbi of Palestine, (may their memories be blessed) was murdered as he returned from evening prayers outside Shaarui Zedek hospital in Jerusalem. His crime was that he had been involved in discussions with Arab leaders that offered an alternative to Zionist hegemony. His murderers were members of the Haganah, a Zionist, so - called "defense organization." In fact, Dr. de Hahn may well be described as the first victim of Zionist violence in the Holy Land. Yet, outside of a limited circle of anti - Zionist Jews, this cowardly and cold blooded murder is completely unknown " _http://nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/index.cfm_
Our history books are replete with blank pages. There is a virtual media blackout on some of the most prescient occurrences that have led to the untenable situation in today's world. In the late 1800's, the Zionists plotted to take over Palestine. Most people are not aware that the Jews had not controlled Palestine since the days of the Roman Empire and that the small group of Arab Jews who lived in Palestine got along well with their Muslim hosts. They never expressed any desire to overthrow the Ottoman rulers. This movement came strictly from influential European Zionists.
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n 1914, Germany, Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Turkish Empire were fighting against England, France and Russia. By 1916, however, it appeared that they had won the war. Germany made a favorable offer to Britain, and yet, the British and the international Zionists had different plans. Led by Chiam Weizmann, they influenced the United States to enter the war on Britain's side. The price was that the British would reward the Zionists by taking Palestine from the conquered Ottoman Empire. Once under British control, the Jews of Europe would be "encouraged" to immigrate to Palestine.
Zionists such as Bernard Baruch, Louis Brandeis, Paul Warburg, Jacob Schiff and others influenced President Woodrow Wilson, a man whose closet contained a few skeletons that he preferred to keep hidden.
As Dr. Pastore says "The press transformed the German Kaiser and his people into bloodthirsty 'Huns. In Germany, the Zionists used their power and influence to undermine Germany from within. The result was that the German, Austrian and Ottoman Empires were defeated and their maps were rewritten by the powers at the Treaty of Versailles in 1918. "
The Balfour Declaration, which gave the land of Palestine to the Jews, was issued in 1917, one year before Germany surrendered. (The Jewish Virtual Library of the American-Israeli co-operative enterprise.)
For the readers who have dismissed what I have written so far, I ask you to turn your attention to the work of Benjamin Freedman. Freedman was an American millionaire who broke all ties with fellow Zionists years after the war and went on to expose the truth about both World Wars and the Zionist activities. His speech is available online.
Please do not allow knee jerk reactions to close your mind. I know how distressing this is. Growing up Jewish, I have 'walked that walk'. I have felt the sorrow and disbelief when my eyes began to open. I have been insulted and even threatened for my beliefs. I have lost friendships because I was called "dangerous". It is important, however, not to let fear deter our pursuit of truth. We must begin to write some real history on those blank pages in the school syllabus.
The Balfour Declaration was a letter issued in November of 1917 by the British statesman Arthur James Balfour, the foreign secretary. It expressed the British government's approval of Zionism and "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people." And so, Israel was established as an independent state in 1948 in the mandated area.
The German people resented the Zionist role in WW 1. They resented the Treaty of Versailles and the brutal reparations. The German economy was in ruins and the people elected Adolf Hitler in 1932. The Nazi party soon took control from the Zionists. (who had controlled the German media, banks and universities).
Zionists called for action against Germany and boycotts were imposed in the UK and USA. On March 24, 1933, "The Daily Express" of England carried the following headline; "Judea Declares War on Germany. Jews of All the World Unite in Action" ( Daily Express (England) March 24, 1933.)
Germany and Poland went to war over the disputed territory in 1939. Great Britain and France declared war on Germany under the pretext of protecting Poland, ignoring the fact that Stalin's Soviet Union had invaded Poland too. In the spring of 1940, the war in Western Europe began when Germany launched preemptive invasions of Norway, Holland and Belgium. In the United States, the Zionists pressured Franklin Delano Roosevelt to involve the United States in the war.
The rest is history, if you'll pardon the poor pun. The United States' entry into the war resulted in another crushing defeat for Germany.
A few years after the end of the second World War, the plan to establish the nation of Israel in Palestine materialized. Zionist acts of terror ensued. The most notorious terror group was the Irgun, led by Menachem Begin. Ironically, Mr. Begin would later go on to become the Prime Minister of Israel and the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. It kind of leaves you scratching your head, doesn't it?
Dr. Pastore reports: "July 22, 1946, Irgun terrorists, dressed as Arabs, entered the Kind David Hotel in Jerusalem. They unloaded 225 kilograms of explosives. The Secretariat of the Government of Palestine and the Headquarters of the British Forces in Palestine were housed there. Most of the victims were British but 15 innocent Jews also died. The radical Zionists had no trouble killing their fellow Jews in their attempt to advance their mission.
The Irgun terror gang also targeted Arab civilians in order to frighten them into leaving their homes and villages. The massacre at Deir Yassin, April 9, 1948, was one such occurrence.
Christian Arabs numbering over 254 were dragged from their homes, lined up and shot. Many were old men, women and children.
By 1948, the UN, UK and US had recognized the nation of Israel. One of its first acts was to pass "the law of return", which gave any Jew in the world the right to move to Israel and become a citizen."
And so, the land we call Israel was, in reality, stolen from the Arabs in a brutal fashion and the brutality has not stopped.
In the years that have followed, many "false flag" operations have occurred:
1. In 1955, Israeli agents, impersonating Arab terrorists were caught staging a series of bombings against US installations in Egypt. The scandal came to be known as the Lavon affair.
2. In 1967, during a war with the Arabs, Israeli gunboats and fighter jets attacked the USS Liberty, an unarmed US ship. Thirty five American sailors were murdered and 170 were injured. Their excuse was that they mistook the ship for an Egyptian one. However, survivors of the incident have contradicted this. www.ussliberty.org.
3. In the 1980's, the Israelis once again succeeded in framing enemy Arabs in order to anger the United States. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky defected from the Mossad and tried to warn the United States about their evil, murderous nature. He told how the Israelis framed Libya for the bombing of a German night club which framed Libya and caused President Reagan to bomb Libya in 1986, killing the 4 year old daughter of Libyan leader Muamar Qadhafi. Ostrovsky's 1990 book, By Way of Deception revealed how the Mossad recruits Arab agents to carry out their missions. He also stated "Israeli agents are skilled at impersonating Arabs."
It is imperative to emphasize that Zionism is nobody's friend. It is imperative that Jewish people realize that they too have been betrayed by the Zionists who have continued using Judaism to hide behind. In fact, when all the details are carefully examined and carefully considered, the painful reality is that it was ZIONISM which literally sent Europe's Jews into the bowels of the Holocaust.'
A veil of disbelief shrouds many Jewish eyes. This is because the sordid history of Zionism has been so effectively suppressed. The plethora of Holocaust movies and cries of anti-Semitism have left Jewish people with fear and trembling. How many of these people are aware that the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis?
1. According to Lenni Brenner's book Zionism in the Age of Dictators (Ch.7), the Zionist party was the only other political party in Nazi Germany that enjoyed a measure of freedom, and could publish a newspaper. The reason: Zionists and Nazis had a common interest, making German Jews go to Palestine. http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch07.htm 2. "If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative." David Ben Gurion informed a meeting of Labor Zionists in Great Britain in 1938 (Brenner, Zionism, p.149)
3. In November 1942, Rabbi Michael Dov-Ber Weismandel, a Jewish activist in Slovakia approached Adolph Eichmann's representative, Dieter Wisliceny: "How much money would be needed for all the European Jews to be saved?" Wisliceny went to Berlin and returned with an answer.
For a mere $2 million they could have all the Jews in Western Europe and the Balkans. Weismandel sent a courier to the World Zionist Organization in Switzerland. His request was refused.
The official, Nathan Schwalb sent enough money to save only Weismandel and his cadre. He wrote:
"About the cries coming from your country, we should know that all the Allied nations are spilling much of their blood, and if we do not sacrifice any blood, by what right shall we merit coming before the bargaining table when they divide nations and lands at the war's end? ....for only with blood shall we get the land." (Brenner, Zionism, p.237)
"Why would the Zionist leaders betray the Jews of Europe?" You wonder.
After all, the entire rationale for the state of Israel has been that it was intended to be a refuge for Jews facing persecution.
The Zionists, to the contrary, saw any effort to rescue Europe's Jews not as the fulfillment of their political purpose but as a threat to their entire movement. If Europe's Jews were saved, they would wish to go elsewhere and the rescue operation would have nothing to do with the Zionist project of conquering Palestine. Their obsession with colonizing Palestine and overwhelming the Arabs led the Zionist movement to oppose any rescue of the Jews facing death, because the ability to deflect select manpower to Palestine would be impeded.
From 1933 to 1935, the World Zionist Organization turned down two-thirds of all the German Jews who applied for immigration certificates. As late as 1943, while countless Jews in Europe were dying, the U.S. Congress proposed to set up a commission to "study" the problem. Rabbi Stephen Wise, who was the principal American spokesperson for Zionism, came to Washington to testify against the rescue bill because it would divert attention from the colonization of Palestine.
One would have, perhaps, expected the Zionists to understand the meaning of humiliation and the pain of being perpetual refugees. And yet, in place of compassion, the Zionists celebrated the persecution of others, even as they first betrayed the Jews and then degraded them. They selected a victim people of their own on whom to inflict a conquering design. They aligned the surviving Jews with a new genocide against the Palestinian people, cloaking themselves, with savage irony, in the collective shroud of the Holocaust. _http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman/ch06.htm_
4. A chilling tale of Zionist crimes against their brethren is known as "The Ringworm Children."
In 1951, the director general of the Israeli Health Ministry, Dr. Chaim Sheba flew to America and returned with 7 x-ray machines, supplied to him by the American army.
They were to be used in a mass atomic experiment with an entire generation of Sephardi youths to be used as guinea pigs. Every Sephardi child was to be given 35,000 times the maximum dose of x-rays through his head. For doing so, the American government paid the Israeli government 300,000 Israeli liras a year. The entire Health budget was 60,000 liras. The money paid by the Americans is equivalent to billions of dollars today.
To fool the parents of the victims, the children were taken away on "school trips" and their parents were later told the x-rays were a treatment for the scourge of scalpal ringworm. 6,000 of the children died shortly after their doses were given, the many of the rest developed cancers that killed them over time and are still killing them now. While living, the victims suffered from disorders such as epilepsy, amnesia, Alzheimer's disease, chronic headaches and psychosis.
Yes, that is the subject of the documentary in cold terms. It is another matter to see the victims on the screen. ie. To watch the Moroccan lady describe what getting 35,000 times the dose of allowable x-rays in her head feels like.
"I screamed make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. But it never went away." To watch the bearded man walk hunched down the street. "I'm in my fifties and everyone thinks I'm in my seventies. I have to stoop when I walk so I won't fall over. They took my youth away with those x-rays."
To watch the old lady who administered the doses to thousands of children.
"They brought them in lines. First their heads were shaved and smeared in burning gel.
Then a ball was put between their legs and the children were ordered not to drop it, so they wouldn't move. The children weren't protected over the rest of their bodies. There were no lead vests for them. I was told I was doing good by helping to remove ringworm. If I knew what dangers the children were facing, I would never have cooperated. Never!"
Because the whole body was exposed to the rays, the genetic makeup of the children was often altered, affecting the next generation. We watch the woman with the distorted face explain, "All three of my children have the same cancers my family suffered. Are you going to tell me that's a coincidence?"
Everyone notices that Sephardi women in their fifties today, often have sparse patchy hair, which they try to cover with henna. Most of us assumed it was just a characteristic of Sephardi women. We watch the woman on the screen wearing a baseball-style hat. She places a picture of a lovely young teenager with flowing black hair opposite the lens. "That was me before my treatment. Now look at me." She removes her hat. Even the red henna can't cover the horrifying scarred bald spots.
The majority of the victims were Moroccan because they were the most numerous of the Sephardi immigrants. The generation that was poisoned became the country's perpetual poor and criminal class. It didn't make sense. The Moroccans who fled to France became prosperous and highly educated. The common explanation was that France got the rich, thus smart ones. The real explanation is that every French Moroccan child didn't have his brain cells fried with gamma rays.
The film made it perfectly plain that this operation was no accident. The dangers of x-rays had been known for over forty years. We read the official guidelines for x-ray treatment in 1952. http://www.rense.com/general67/radd.htm
5. Thermonuclear blackmail of America by Zionist Israel. Yes, it is quite true as revealed in a stunning United States Air Force paper located here: http://www.rense.com/general35/isrnuk.htm One other purpose of Israeli nuclear weapons, not often stated, but obvious, is their "use" on the United States. America does not want Israel's nuclear profile raised.[144]
They have been used in the past to ensure America does not desert Israel under increased Arab, or oil embargo, pressure and have forced the United States to support Israel diplomatically against the Soviet Union. Israel used their existence to guarantee a continuing supply of American conventional weapons, a policy likely to continueThe Counterproliferation Papers Series was established by the USAF Counterproliferation Center to provide information and analysis to U.S. national security policy-makers and USAF officers to assist them in countering the threat posed by adversaries equipped with weapons of mass destruction. Copies of papers in this series are available from the USAF Counterproliferation Center, 325 Chennault Circle, Maxwell AFB AL 36112-6427. The fax number is (334) 953-7538; phone (334) 953-7538.
The internet address for the USAF Counterproliferation Center is:
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/awc-cps.htm
Have you had enough? I have. I am tired of the manipulation. I am tired of watching people fighting; people who should be banding together in a common cause. I am tired of watching Jews and Gentiles being used for the nefarious gains of an extremely dark force. I am tired of watching the targeting and extermination of Muslims. I am tired of watching our rights disappear while the populace falls asleep in front of their televisions. I am tired of hate and dissension. I am tired of helplessness and hopelessness and an immobilized populace. I am tired of watching people throw their hands up in despair.
There are lone voices crying in the wilderness. Are these voices falling upon deaf ears? I urge every person of conscience to speak out. Don't be afraid. We are the many and they are the few. Add your voice to this group until the hushed whispers become a deafening roar.
Are you doubting what I say? Don't take my word, do your own investigation. It's a painful exploration but I truly believe that the balance of this planet hangs on the opening of Jewish eyes. There are many good hearted Jewish people who are being duped along with their Gentile brethren. How many Jewish people have bought into their 'chosen' status and are card carrying Zionists now?
Much of the world is waking up to the manipulations of the few and it is imperative that Jewish people join them. Every day, the Occupy Movement grows and people are pointing fingers at the role of the Zionist banksters and their devastating role in the destruction of the economy. People are appalled by the power of Goldman Sachs ..whose CEO Lloyd Blankfein makes a quarter of a million dollars a day, while GS has scammed the populace out of 78 billion dollars of American taxpayers money and is responsible for the Greek debacle.
There is no time to waste. The information is limitless. There is no refuge for Jewish people in Israel. My dear readers, Zionism will not protect you. Zionism will crucify you on a bloody cross of avarice. It is only through a union of Jewish, Christians and Muslims that we will we be able to take back our planet.
Copyright Judy Andreas
All Rights Reserved
do you seriously believe anybody accepts this anti-Semitic garbage? Do you seriously believe anyone apart from Islamist mutters and neo-nazis will actually bother to read this crap?
Yes Julia Harris we do. You are living in a warped time frame and use every opportunity to hide behind this anti semitic garbage. The only reason why anti semitism has persisited is because freaks like you feel compelled to bang Israel's drum and are blind to the war crimes that Israel has committed over the years.
do you seriously believe anybody accepts this anti-Semitic garbage? Do you seriously believe anyone apart from Islamist mutters and neo-nazis will actually bother to read this crap?
Very interesting article on Atzmom.
The following is Jean Bricmont's introduction for the French edition of The Wandering Who (La Parabole d'Esther). It was published in English a few days ago by Counterpunch print edition.
The French edition is available here
In Defense of Gilad Atzmon
By Jean Bricmont
Pro-Palestinian friends had repeatedly warned me: Gilad Atzmon is anti-Semitic, he is bad for the Palestinian cause, he may even work for Israel. I must have a contrarian turn of mind, because that kind of talk never stopped me from regularly reading his blog (quite the opposite) with a mixture of fascination and amusement. It struck me that an Israeli Jew living in the U.K., a voluntary exile, who is accused of anti-Semitism, among others by pro-Palestinian Jews and Palestinian militants, and whose conferences draw protesting demonstrations from “anti-racist” organizations, was at the very least an interesting curiosity. Moreover, having myself “escaped” from the religion in which I was forced to grow up (Catholicism), I have an instinctive sympathy for all those who break, often brutally, with the myths and constraints of their childhood. Atzmon’s themes, the politics of identity and memory, are at the very heart of our contemporary social debates. It ought to be possible to listen to a truly politically incorrect viewpoint on these issues, that of someone who defines himself as a “proud self-hating Jew.”
Israel is a failed rogue state which is attempting to involve the world in a global war against Iran. Clearly Israel is running scared of Iran and yet was not able to persuade the world to attack Iran. The oft repeated false claim that the Israeli army is invincible is just a complete fabrication. Israel needs to grow up and live in the real world and stop thinking that the rest of the world owes them a living. On the contrary Israel owes the Palestinians.
Only a deranged Islamist from apartheid pakistan can seriously describe liberal-democratic Israel as a failed rogue state. I would have thought a terror state like racist Pakistan that relies on food handouts from the infidel west because it's too stupid to feed itself, that honor-kills its women, that sentences Christians to death for 'blasphemy', that murdered a million innocent Hindus and Sikhs and ethically cleansed hundreds of thousand more to create this diseased Moslem-only state can best be described as a 'failed rogue state'.
You sound pretty deranged yourself. The truth is that Israel is a rogue state and has been censored more than any other state by the UN on countless occasions. Talking about Pakistan and other states cannot and will not deflect our attention fromt he war crimes that Israel has committed. Talking of ethnci cleansing Israel has its own dire record of physically expelling close to one million Palestinians in 1948. Sooner or later the Israel peoject will fail as Americans will tire of funding Israel who cannot even survive without US aid.
Without western food handouts apartheid Pakistan will starve.
deranged Islamist, apartheid pakistan, racist Pakistan, liberal-democratic Israel, infidel west, honor-kills, blasphemy, ethically cleansed, diseased Moslem-only state......filler added and another masterpiece of Zionist propaganda is created. Trouble is though is it is bollocks. I can think of no other liberal democracy which uses assassination as state policy, attacks and blockades it neighbours and which is busy colonising land it has conquered by force of arms. The current Israeli government is led by a Prime Minister who heads a party formerly led by terrorist killers (Menachim Begin and Yitzhak Shamir), has a deputy Prime Minister who holds neo-fascist and racist views and is a convicted criminal and which includes ministers from extremist religious and Zionist parties which are both racist and homophobic. The latest act from this liberal-democratic state is to ban a 84 year old German who expressed his concerns about Israel's push for war in a poem. Liberal-democratic Israel is nearer to a police state now than it has ever been under Netanyahu and his Cabal of villains.
Hi Armi
I've really missed you my sweet sexy poster boy. I see your still telling it like it is to those evil zionists!!
Together we could march into Israel and kill all the jews and make it an ARAB paradise! Arab countries are the best. I will wear a black silk burqua and you will wear a bright red kafiyah like the one I had in the dream when we were fighting jews then having tea with Assad in Syria.
Hope to hear from you again my noble warrier of the left-wing!!
I want the taste of your skin on my lips!
Debs
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How typical of the scumbag Islamist Arminius to feel sorry for a former member of the waffen SS ! Then again there's little difference between islamism and Nazism. The nazis worshipped mass murderers like hitler and himmler. Islamists worship a racist murdering pedophile rapist 'prophet'.
The only one who is a scumbag around here is you; clearly your vocabulary is limited. Let us not forget that Zionism equals fascism equals Israel.
Scumbag, Islamist, islamism, Naziism, racist, murdering, pedophile, rapist, prophet and add more filler. Yes, I understand that a lot of Zionist dross are making great play of the fact that this 84 year old man spent 5 months of his life in the Waffen-SS after having been conscripted, ignoring the fact that he has been a pacifist for the vast majority of his life, an anti-Nazi and a Left winger. But then Zionists never have any problem with letting facts get in the way of defending Israel's fascist government of hooks, crooks and nutters. You might want to add more "filler" to your next post lest people think you are completely off your chump.
Arminius the only neo-fascists around and your fellow warped women-stoning Gay-hanging inbred Islamists.
Coleridge. You really are losing the plot here. Using vile, inflamatory language shows you and Israel in a very poor light. Is that what your Rabbi taught you. And here's me thinking that Judaism/ Abrahamism is a peaceful religion.
it's in the Madrassas in apartheid Pakistan that Islamist loons are taught to spout the vile racist shit that Arminius and other sick islamists spout on this and other sites. The fact remains that most sane non-Moslems recognize that Islamism stands for the persecution of women, the killing of Gays and Jews and the enforced subjugation of all non-Moslems to a barbaric religion that venerates a rapist pedophile killer 'prophet' as the messenger of god.
keep on dreaming Islamists and carry on stoning your own women to death.
Yup, completely deranged.
Today's Times leader refers to women and kids being stabbed in their homes in fascist Syria, about civilians trying to retrieve the bodies of their loved ones being lined up against walls and shot and hundreds being massacred each day.
So what has been the Islamist sresponse?
Total silence!
The 'Stop the War Coalition' is silent.
The Moslem Council of Britain is silent.
The islamofascists of MPAC are silent.
Mehdi Hasan is silent.
The Iranian Goebbels George Galloway continues to support the murderer Assad and defends the savage Iran regime for sustaining the genocide of Moslems.
Ken Livingstone is silent.
Yet the islamofascist sMPAC supporters of apartheid Pakistan continue to come out with crap about democratic Israel!
We have no way of knowing what is going on in Syria as we do not have access to independent journalist reporting. The idea that the Arab Srping means that we cannot talk about human rights abuses in Israel is just laugable. Don't you just love the way the zionist trolls come up with sheer bull time and time again. And worst of all; they think we believe them . A comment made elsewhere that Israel is by far the most hated country on the planet is a salient point. The idea that that this fabricated rhetoric from the zionist can detract from this fact is missing the point. Israel and its supporters are fast running out of reasons to support Israel. Repeating lie after lie is not going to cut it anymore.
yells you little inbred Islamist, Israel may well be hated by scumbag Islamist states that butcher their own citizens, hang Gays and stone women to death and spend a lot of time suicide-bombing their own mosques. It is however adored by the Free non-Moslem world from the USA to Africa to the Far East to Australaia.
Just ask yourself why it is that the US and Europe are now closing their doors to Moslem immigrants? Why is that France today leads the way forward in deporting dangerous Islamist scum and then ask yourself who really is the most hated on the planet?
We havw to ak the question why has Israel abnned Gunter Grass from entering the country. What Israel scared of a poem. Democractic country, my foot
because he's a former member of the waffen SS who spouts neo-nai crap!
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to why Peter Tatchell is forbidden to enter any Islamist/Arab/Moslem state?
Why does Islam fear a single Gay activist?
It has been known for years that Gunter Grass was a member of the Waffen-SS during WW2 (he had no choice in the matter since he was conscripted and served for aonly a few months before being wounded) so why has the neo-fascist Israeli government waited until now to ban him?
Why was Noam Chomsky denied entry to the Israeli occupied West Bank in 2010? Why was Norman Finkelstein denied entry into Israel in 2008 and banned from doing so for 10 years? Why do the Zionists fear these 2 Jewish activists?
Err, because they're cunts?
For exactly the same reason the UK, USA, Canada, Australia and France are refusing entry to dangerous Islamist fanatics and their supporters. A democracy has no obligation to allow entry to fanatical lunatics. But perhaps Arminius, my little inbred Islamist, you might like to explain why your racist apartheid Pakistan, why Saudi Arabia refuses entry to anyone who happens to be Jewish? Declaring ones religious origin is a prerequisite for entry into these and other Islamist shit-hole states. Perhaps Arminius can explain why Saudi arabia refuses to allow the building of churches on its diseased territory? Or why Christians are now forced to practice their religion on secret in islamafascust Iran? Or why Islam is currently bombing Christian churches in Nigeria?
The reality is that you Islamists are the worst, most vile violators of human rights on the planet.
My parents were not related, I was christened in the Free Church of Scotland, I have never been to Pakistan or Saudi Arabia or Iran or Nigeria (or any other country where Islam is the state or majority religion). So basically this makes your post little more that the drivel of a drooling moron. The fanatical lunatics are the ones running the apatheid state of Israel. Even its allies are starting to realise that the lunatics have finally taken over the Israeli asylum.
Arminius you are a fucking Islamist liar.
Stunningly insightful post from a Zionist fruitloop. Is your tin foil hat too tight or something?
So Israel that great beacon of democracy is running scared of a POET. Let me get this straight now Grass is a dangerous fanatic. You really are garnering support for your cause. You and your Zionist cohorts are obsessed with the word inbreds. I wonder why. Could it be because of the widespread prevalence of inter marriage in Jewish families. Whatever has happened in the rest of the world, Israel today is the biggets threat to world peace and security. That is the crux of what Grass is saying and it is this very fact which gets you and your zio-Jewish comrades exercised. Stop living in a fantasy world and face up to the fact that current Israeli policies are unsustainable.
I wonder what it takes for the islamofascist trolls to take their focus off democratic Israel and speak up for persecuted Moslems in Racist apartheid Pakistan, in murderous Sudan, the Moslem dissidents butchered by the islamofascist regime in Tehran, the Sunni Moslem kids tortured and slaughtered by Iran's ally Assad of Syria in their thousands? Or how about just calling for basic human rights like the right to dissent, the right to vote, the right to have a free press - denied to them in each and every Moslem state that is either a fascist military dictatorship, a clericalism fascist state or a feudal tyranny?
Why is it that Islam seems to go hand in hand with repression, persecution, ethnic cleansing, honor killing, stoning women to death and hanging Gays?
Why is it that the MPAC scum who comment on the pages of left wing magazines refuse to condemn such Islamist barbarities that primarily affect their own co-religionists?
Islamofascist, apartheid Pakistan, tortured, slaughtered, dictatorship, feudal tyranny, repression, persecution, ethnic cleansing, honour killing, stoning women to death, hanging gays, MPAC scum, Islamist barbarities.......just add filler and bile and voila....instant Zionist rant.
Exactement!! The Zionist trolls as so transparent.
I wonder what it takes for the Zio fascist trolls to take their focus off the Arab Spring and speak up for persecuted Palestinians in racist aparthied Israel. The Zio trolls will resort to every trick in the book to deflect attention from the fact that i Israeli is a military fascist dictatorship who have thwarted at every turn the idea of securing a peace agreement with the Palestinians. Israel is run by a right wing military cabal where elections simply rubber stamp the wishes of the military dictatorship. The idea that Israel supports the gay community is just another one of those banal PR strategies designed to improve Israel's image abroad. It is high time that those pea brian halfwits stopped supporting Israel like compliant slaves and faced up to the ugly terrorist state that it is; a state built on land stolen from the Palestinians.
Magi you Islamist bigot - there's an annual Gay pride march in Tel Aviv and Liberated Jerusalem. Is there a Gay Pride event in apartheid Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, sudan, Iran , Turkey, Syria, Bangladesh, Malaysia or indeed any other Islamist shit-hole?
No you are the bigot Coleridge. The idea that Israel is a haven for gays is one another of those failed rebranding fiascos. You pillock!! If Israel is shit free as you claim, why not go live there!!
Magi just wondering - were your parents siblings?
Must be a tradition within your family of inbred marriages. I can see the effects. Need to break the link.
Magi you inbred - let me reverse the question you posed Coleridge. Why don't you go live in apartheid Pakistan where your racist views would be well appreciated. Oh and do take with you the 2 1/2 million 'disenfranchised and alienated' Pakistani Islamist settlers with you.
Julia Harris, you and your supporters really do need to go and live in Israel as you cannot be 100% loyal to Queen and Country. It must be hard having to defend the indefensible; I imagine you would feel at home in an illegal Jewish settlement. What yare you waiting for. There is an opening in most settlements for land stealers. Sure you would do a good job.
This from an Islamist fanatic who probably supports 9/11 and the blowing up of our buses and tubes by his co-religionists.
Magi you Islamist bigot - there's an annual Gay pride march in Tel Aviv and Liberated Jerusalem. Is there a Gay Pride event in apartheid Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, sudan, Iran , Turkey, Syria, Bangladesh, Malaysia or indeed any other Islamist shit-hole?
Israel is widely recognised as an apartheid state according to Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu. Having lost the ideological battle, Israel now has to resort to hosting phony gay pride marches. Sheer desparation springs to mind. Is not Israel a zio Jewish shit hole too, to use your terminology!!
you seem to have lost the plot here. it's islamofascist Iran that hangs teenage boys from cranes in public squares for the 'crime' of being Gay. not liberal-democratic Israel. if you and other Islamists have no interest in persecuting Gays perhaps you will welcome the Gay pride rally in Bradford West taking place in August?
Magi you Islamist bigot - there's an annual Gay pride march in Tel Aviv and Liberated Jerusalem. Is there a Gay Pride event in apartheid Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, sudan, Iran , Turkey, Syria, Bangladesh, Malaysia or indeed any other Islamist shit-hole?
Magi you Islamist bigot - there's an annual Gay pride march in Tel Aviv and Liberated Jerusalem. Is there a Gay Pride event in apartheid Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, sudan, Iran , Turkey, Syria, Bangladesh, Malaysia or indeed any other Islamist shit-hole?
I wonder what it takes for the islamofascist trolls to take their focus off democratic Israel and speak up for persecuted Moslems in Racist apartheid Pakistan, in murderous Sudan, the Moslem dissidents butchered by the islamofascist regime in Tehran, the Sunni Moslem kids tortured and slaughtered by Iran's ally Assad of Syria in their thousands? Or how about just calling for basic human rights like the right to dissent, the right to vote, the right to have a free press - denied to them in each and every Moslem state that is either a fascist military dictatorship, a clericalism fascist state or a feudal tyranny?
Why is it that Islam seems to go hand in hand with repression, persecution, ethnic cleansing, honor killing, stoning women to death and hanging Gays?
Why is it that the MPAC scum who comment on the pages of left wing magazines refuse to condemn such Islamist barbarities that primarily affect their own co-religionists?
You must be desperate if you have to post your comments three times. Anybody can see the ideological position you are coming from; nobody believes this claptrap you are spouting.
I wonder what it takes for the islamofascist trolls to take their focus off democratic Israel and speak up for persecuted Moslems in Racist apartheid Pakistan, in murderous Sudan, the Moslem dissidents butchered by the islamofascist regime in Tehran, the Sunni Moslem kids tortured and slaughtered by Iran's ally Assad of Syria in their thousands? Or how about just calling for basic human rights like the right to dissent, the right to vote, the right to have a free press - denied to them in each and every Moslem state that is either a fascist military dictatorship, a clericalism fascist state or a feudal tyranny?
Why is it that Islam seems to go hand in hand with repression, persecution, ethnic cleansing, honor killing, stoning women to death and hanging Gays?
Why is it that the MPAC scum who comment on the pages of left wing magazines refuse to condemn such Islamist barbarities that primarily affect their own co-religionists?