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You're right, Broga. None of us are perfect. And your point is what? I express opinions, and I don't assume that someone is intellectually or morally compromised because their opinion is different from mine. I despise bigotry, that's all. Some of the posters above seem to assume that people are religious because they're stupid or brainwashed: I'm agnostic, several members of my family are theists, others are atheists, and we're all pretty much as clever and stupid or good and bad as one another.
I don't think that we've got a right to assume that any of us are smarter or better people than anyone else because of what we believe (how we express it or how willing we are to be mentally flexible is another matter).

Anyway. Doesn't anyone else see something funny about an atheist crusade?

You give this man far too much space.He is entitled to his views but his ways of expressing them would be more at home in a ten-year-old children's playground-far too many snide comments, yah-boo, etc.

All those attacking Dawkins for what they choose to call'militant ateism' are missing the point entirely.
I am an atheist and content to remain so in a godless yet quite wonderful universe. I am married to a devout christian lady who never goes to church and does not pray. We are both nice people, kind, generous charitable and loving.We have no need for religion in our lives.
But back to Dawkins. He was content until 9/11 to keep his thoughts and words limited to his educational role as an evolutionist biologist. 9/11 showed us all how one religion can so warp the thinking of men that they can murder without pity 3000 or so innocent people. That killing of followers of other religions and indeed even their own kind continues in the name of their god. Dawkins therefore saw it a needful purpose to expose all theistic religions as warping others minds with lies and fables.
Like me I am happy for the next man to believe what he will but he must not
a) use it as an excuse to harass or kill me
b) let it intrude upon the political and secular domain
and c) try to make me believe without proof what he believes withour proof.

'None of us are perfect.'

None of us _is_ perfect.

Oh dear, oh dear.

;)

'Dawkins performs a public service, in an age of faith schools;

He goes damned quiet at election times.

Like his faithful worshippers.

RD = OUR HERO.
Now then, if Blighty ever manages to wrest apart State, Monarchy, Parliament and Christianity (in England only ofcourse) perhaps RD would be quiet.
Alas, so sheepish are the natives and so disingenuous are the elected methinks this outcome unlikely.
In the meantime RD - keep 'rattling' those 'christy' cages !

Always hilarious to hear people refer to Dawkins as pompous and self-important.

He's one of the most important evolutionary biologist author/educators to emerge from the UK. I think he's earned his self-importance...

It's also worth noting that he didn't require a mandate from God to achieve what he has achieved.

@Keir
I would say; "If something happens, it isn't supernatural."
Do you believe that, say in Lourdes, miracles really happen? Not something like; "I was very depressed when I went and I came back happy." No, something like; "I went without legs and came back with legs." If God really can do magic, why can't He do that?

'EVIDENCE for ANY large-scale miraculous intervention in the laws of nature'

'"A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away."' Mt 16:4 NIV

'The sign of Jonah' is the resurrection of Jesus. We do not need formal proof of it, because we know it is true when we learn of it.

'god has carried out in response to the prayers of billions'

'"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'"' Mt 7:22-23 NIV

'But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them — bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.' 2 Pe 2:1-2 NIV

'Do you believe that, say in Lourdes, miracles really happen?'

No, but this is hardly relevant to the Dawkins discussion. 2 Pe 2:1-2 is relevant.

The records of supernatural events recorded in the Bible are relevant, as I'm sure we are aware. Dawkins asserts that they cannot happen because molecular laws dictate that they cannot. But the whole point is that a creator of molecules can do as he likes with them.

So Dawkins is perfectly circular, and it's unbelievable that he has not been laughed out of sight. There's a miracle.

The New Atheism is a joke.

Broga, you generalise appallingly about theists. That looks like pure intellectual arrogance-which, from the content of your posts, seems to be unjustified. Let me look at a couple of your statements here:

"At the moment they are attacking Richard Dawkins because a distant ancestor of his employed slaves. They search for minor flaws in atheists while readily overlooking much that is far worse as long as the perpetrators are christians."

Really? Who is "they"? Dawkins family history of owning slaves isn't a minor flaw. It isn't a flaw at all, since he bears no responsibility for it. Any theist who's used that to belabour Dawkins makes his or herself look like a fool. Draw your own conclusion about anyone on the other side of the debate who uses it as a stick to belabour theism because they lack the intelligence to make a cogent argument for the non-existence of God.

Your comments about your relatives who, despite their religion, are as enlightened as you when it comes to social issues like gay marriage aren't patronising at all, are they?

You mention creationism. I attended a religious school in the 70s: my teacher then taught us that Darwinism was completely compatible with Christianity. It might suit you to paint theists as a bunch of superstitious hicks, but all you do is draw attention to your limited social circle or to your lack of confidence in any argument you have against religion.

I don't have any axe to grind here. I don't believe in God, but that's not the same as a belief in the non-existence of God. Hopefully you've enough intelligence to grasp the distinction? But I do despise intellectual or spiritual arrogance, especially from people who are neither very clever nor morally upright.

I do hope that your description of Dawkins as mighty was tongue in cheek, but I think you might be as prone to hagiography as the most superstitious theist.

Finally-don't take this the wrong way, but has anyone ever told you that sometimes you come across as a bit pompous? Don't be hurt. Sometimes it's nicer to receive constructive criticism from a stranger, isn't it?

Bizarre that a man who has devoted much of his life to the extinction of religion has a cult following. Even this magazine feels the need to leap to his defense.

Once again the name of Richard Dawkins brings out the idiot godbots. Anybody with the slightest intelligence could study any religion or religious book to discover how false they all are. Anybody could read a book like "The Golden Bough" by Sir James Frazer to discover where their idiotic superstitions originate.

'Keir you believe in talking snakes and donkeys'

Sure. They are everywhere on the internet. But I don't _believe_ you.

'Jerusalem Bible'

Jerusalem, my fundament. Why pick a criminal's 'bible' if you're so sure of your interpretation?

City siege everywhere in the known world involved complete destruction of inhabitants; as it did against Israel, and as it did until the appalling Thirty Years' War, that at last shamed humanity into more humane practice (very probably under the influence of the Bible, then opened to Europeans by Protestantism). The enemies of Israel deserved that treatment because the enemies of God were not fit to breathe, in the view of the psalmist. In the case of infants, this was actually an act of mercy, because death from exposure is terrible.

Think before you bray.

Hope someone could help me here.

Could someone supply some links to Dawkins being militant, rude, hectoring bullying childish etc. Because I can only find stuff of him being calm collected and reasonable. Thanks

Thank you for this coverage of Dawkins, which I am taking the time out of a busy schedule, and my birthday, to read. What is more, the prominence you give to Dawkins makes me consider subscribing to your magazine, which is unavailable here in South America, I think. Excellent stuff; keep it up, New Statesman and Richard.

I suspect that in arguing for the existence of a God many people are engaging in sophistry in a misguided attempt to prove how smart they are. To me it just seems abundantly clear that God is a man made concept and it seems an utterly ridiculous notion that our species, on this unremarkable out post of an insignificant galaxy is the focal point of all existence. As Feynman put it "the stage is too big for the show". And whether or not the arguments put forward by Richard Dawkins are to your satisfaction does not affect it one way or another.

'both Catholics and Protestants profess to be Christian'

Both Catholics and Protestants deny that the other sort is Christian. It's in their official documents, in current use. Protestants evangelise Catholics. Are Dawkinsites ignorant of these things? Or do they just not _want_ to know? Are they just fascist-lite, secret admirers of Franco and Salazar? That is the best label for them, unless they join the adults.

@Keir

As an atheist I really couldn't give a monkey toss about the semantics used by one group of fairy worshippers use to describe another. I am proud to be ignorant of such irrelevance.

All the ornate sophistry surrounding religion cannot hide it is essentially built upon myth. From Zeus to Jesus via Odin, its all the same old nonsense.

Sorry keir but your comment makes no sense at all.

Golly massa Richard we really miss you down on de ol' plantation.

'I am proud to be ignorant'

There you are Richard, one made in your own image.