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The Alex Salmond dictator game

The Scottish First Minister has been compared to Milosevic, Mugabe, Hitler, and Kim Jong-Il. Can you

Last week, Alex Salmond was criticised after he described a senior BBC official as a "political Gauleiter", the name given to Nazi regional leaders. However, as one commenter, Jock (and this blog from Wings over Scotland), points out, this criticism was quite ironic given the array of dictators that the First Minister himself has been compared to. Here's a selection.

Alex Salmond is like. . .

. . .Slobodan Milosevic!

The Labour MP Denis Macshane caused some controversy when he compared Salmond to the Serbian dictator earlier this month. He tweeted:

Scotland "a beacon for progressive opinion south of the border". This from Slobodan Salmond who supported Milosevic butchery in Balkans.

. . .Robert Mugabe!

The BBC received 152 complaints after Jeremy Paxman compared the First Minister to Robert Mugabe on Newsnight on 26 January. The BBC said that it was "good-natured" sparring between two political operators. Here is what was said:

Paxman: You say that an independent Scotland would be a beacon of progressiveness -- I think I recall Robert Mugabe saying something similar about Zimbabwe.

Salmond: I don't think, Jeremy, that you are doing yourself any great favours by comparing Scotland to Zimbabwe.

Paxman: I'm comparing you to Mugabe. Implicit in that is the idea that this is a one-party state. Implicit in that assumption is that there is only one party that can rule Scotland.

Paxman is not the only one to make the Mugabe comparison. In a rather less good-natured exhange last November, the Conservative peer and former Scotland Secretary Lord Cormack asked whether "the First Minister of Scotland seeking to emulate Ian Smith or Robert Mugabe" in declaring independence.

. . .Benito Mussolini!

Back in December 2009, the Labour MSP Lord Foulkes referred to Salmond as "Il Duce" -- the nickname of Italy's WWII dictator -- during a meeting at Holyrood. Defending his comments, he said he'd made the comparison because the First Minister was "trying to become minister for everything".

. . .Adolf Hitler!

Tom Harris, the Labour MP, got in hot water at the start of this year when he posted a Downfall parody. The popular meme involves writing parodic subtitles over the climactic final scene of the 2004 movie, and has been used countless times for humorous effect. The Labour Party didn't see the joke, however, and Harris was forced to resign from his new media post.

He was not the first Labour MP to make the comparison. In 2007, Ann Moffat said:

Proportional representation gave Germany Adolf Hitler and in Scotland to a lesser degree we've had the member for Banff and Buchan.

While the SNP demanded an apology, she said she was referring to the voting system, not to individuals.

. . .Kim Jong-Il!

Another Conservative peer, Lord Forsyth, also took a swipe at Salmond, focusing on his wish to give the vote to 16 year olds:

Only nine countries in the world give 16 and 17-year-olds the vote. They include North Korea and Cuba, which also have leaders with a high opinion of themselves.

. . .Genghis Khan!

Kevin McKenna was damning with faint praise in the Observer in May:

The first minister is a splendid politician and has his heart in the right place, which is reassuringly left of centre. Yet he is displaying signs of the early onset of Genghis syndrome, where, having conquered one area of land, he doesn't know when to stop. In Glasgow, he handed down one of his ukases by virtually telling the Labour council what buildings they should and should not be pulling down. At this rate, he'll have reached Warsaw by next spring.

. . .Nicolae Ceausescu!

Over at the FT Alphaville blog, Neil Collins referenced Romania's last Communist leader:

Alex Salmond looks smug as a bug right now. His popularity in the Scottish polls is approaching that of Nicolai Ceausescu when he was running Romania.

. . .Nero!

Scottish Conservative leader Annabel Goldie got historical on October 2010, when she said that listening to Salmond was like listening to:

...some latter-day Nero strumming out Gaudeamus igitur on his fiddle while tongues of flame reach out to our universities.

And finally. . .

. . .Lula da Silva!

It's not all bad. Writing last month, Jason Cowley, the NS editor, made a favourable comparison to the charismatic former president of Brazil:

He is a kind of pale-faced, northern European Lula da Silva and his pro-market social-democratic populism, as with Lula's in Brazil, is proving to be very appealing to a Scottish electorate that had grown weary of Labour's client state and its entrenched culture of cronyism.

UPDATE 17th FEBRUARY:

This blog was inspired by a commenter on this blog, Jock (06 February 2012, 12:16), who posted a list of Alex Salmond dictator comparisons.

It's just come to my attention (pointed out by a reader below) that Jock's comment appears to have been based on this blog from Wings over Scotland, so a huge hat-tip to Stuart Campbell at that blog.

17 comments

Auslander's picture

Did you pay Stuart Campbell for this?

http://wingsland.podgamer.com/alex-salmond-dictator-comparison-bingo/

Plissken's picture

Inspired by Rev Stuart? How about lifted wholesale?

C Baker's picture

Cameron is already getting nuclear power sorted out with France and defense, for when we lose the oil revenues and army from scotland.

I think independence will happen if the eliible voters in Scotland want it.

The name calling is ridiculous.

The end game is in the reality of what actually gets done.

The winners will be those that get what they want, not promises that are never met. The rest of the uk, knows it may lose a lot leaving Scotland, but we will know what we have left.

Salmond will have to raise taxes and pay benefits and pensions out of north sea oil and the rest.

I feel sorry for Scotland, as they have paid a lot out for years and rather than get rich from independence, somehow I still see others gaining, the eu, wealthy outsiders, the politicians. They will feel better that the poverty is caused by Salmond. But, rest assured, just like the bankers, fred the shred etc, Salmond won't lose, it will be the people.

Luckily, being part of the eu, they can always move to the rest of the UK and live with the other 60 million of us.

I seriously hope it works out for Scotland as a nation. If they can stay small, they have a chance. Try living in the quiet south east, only to be outpriced by rich outsiders and have house prices soar. The prosperity will only happen for the rich.

Yes, labour threw us tax credits and higher benefits from borrowing loads. They never taxed the rich to pay for the poor. They taxed the poor to make the rich richer.

So, make sure you get Salmond to start some scottish cooperatives. nationalise the oil and give it to the people of Scotland. Not sell it to Donald Trump or UK PLC!! Otherwise scottish independence will be a massive sell off of scotland to private companies. Just like Labour continued to do here, not changing from thatcherite policies.

Who owns north sea oil?
who owns scottish electric?
scottish water?
scottish banks?

Will salmond be selling them off to wealthy outsiders? Forget jibes about Cameron and the english etc (you can do that all day long) and instead make sure that independence will make your lives better. Get the facts about independence. Don't worry about how shiny cameron is, think about what Salmond will and can realistically do for you in Scotland. Then vote with a clear head.

Denis MacShane's picture

This is very funny and Alex will wear his comparisons with pride. I just recall with dismay how he opposed the help given to protect the Muslims of Kosovo from being slaughtered by Milosevic's murder machine in 1999. Slobo Salmond seems a fair sobriquet even if today he sees Scotland's relationship to the rest of the UK how the Kosovans saw themselves in relation to Serbia

Marbles McMoon's picture

WTF? This story bears quite a similarity to one published here two weeks ago:

http://wingsland.podgamer.com/alex-salmond-dictator-comparison-bingo/

In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's the exact same story, pinching the first one's info wholesale and rewriting it.

Garibaldino's picture

Actually Denis, its not funny, its simply illustrative of how unionist politicians on both sides of the political spectrum are so lacking in cogent arguments against independence that they resort to such pathetic, facile playground name calling.

As for your moral posturing regarding Kosovo, as a leading advocate of the disastrous Iraq war, your pretensions towards protecting muslims are simply laughable.

Lox's picture

Is this the same Dennis MacShane who's alleged to shout at young women who expect him to justify his expenses claims?

Lox's picture

Which of the eight laptops you claimed expenses for are you using tonight, Denis?

Marie Morrison's picture

I knife Denic McShane voted for widespread slaughter on a false premis in Iraq, but being against high level bombing of civilians Iwas not the same as support Milosevic

matthew fox's picture

I remember Major and Hurd's appeasement of the Serbs.

I wonder how many civilians could have been saved if Major had stood up to Milosevic.

Strange how people forget Blair stood up to Milosevic.

Graeme's picture

Salmond was democratically elected and has a good majority. These silly and juvenile comparisons are just a waste of space.

Arthur Williamson's picture

Isn't he also known as Thatcher in a kilt

Marbles McMoon's picture

Only in your fantasises, Arthur.

willoyen's picture

MacShane conveniently disremembers that the slaughter of Albanians by Serbs in Kosovo followed the Nato bombings which were the cause rather than the result. But then MacShane supported the destruction of Iraq and supports the aggressions of Israel against its Arab populations.So much for MacShane.

SH's picture

MacShane himself has tried to protect the Kosovo Albanians from the Organ Theft investigation so has no grounds for name calling.

He also forgets that NATO bombed because the FRY didn't capitulate at Rambouillet and it was Milosevic who stood up to Blair and not the other way round.

Peninsula's picture

It was funny watching you make an erse out of yourself, Denis.

Anthony's picture

@willoyen So much for your one man keyboard battle against nationalists the world over, there has been many articles on Scottish nationalism and the independence question, but you have been strangely reluctant to comment, funny that. Fucking hypocritical fifth column scum like i first thought.

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