PMQs review: Cameron's health problems get worse
A confident Ed Miliband left Cameron badly beaten on the NHS.
By George Eaton Published 08 February 2012 14:11
The NHS has become the Tories' biggest political headache and Ed Miliband has every intention of making it worse. He devoted all six of his questions to the subject at today's PMQs, the last before the recess, and earned one of his most convincing victories to date. Confronted by the sheer size of the opposition to the health bill, an ill-tempered David Cameron was forced to fall back on platitudes about his "care" for the NHS and Brown-esque statistics on higher spending. He quoted the Labour manifesto on the need for "sustained reform", forgetting that the choice isn't between reform and no reform but good reform and bad reform.
At one point, after Miliband had recited a roll call of Labour's NHS achievements, Cameron replied: "if the record was so good, why were they thrown out at the last election?. A quip which rather invited the response: "if the record was so bad, why didn't you win?" It was an embarrassing and undistinguished performance.
A confident Miliband, buoyed by polls showing that Labour enjoys a clear lead on the NHS, declared of Cameron: "he thinks he knows better than the doctors, better than the nurses, better than the midwives, better than the patients associations." It was a damning charge that the PM had no way of refuting. Armed with a quiver of poisonous quotes from No 10 ("Lansley should be taken out and shot"), Miliband could legitimately claim: "he knows in his heart of hearts this is a disaster." The PM's protestations to the contrary only made him look insincere.
It was notable that Cameron offered a less than fulsome defence of Andrew Lansley, remarking only that his "career prospects" were better than Miliband's, a comment that will do nothing to dampen speculation over the Health Secretary's position.
"The NHS will go on going better and his (Miliband's) prospects will go on getting worse," Cameron snapped towards the end of the exchanges. But an increasing number of Tories fear the reverse is true: the NHS will go on getting worse and Miliband's prospects will get better.
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13 comments
The reason that Ed Miliband left Cameron badly beaten on the issue of the NHS is that Miliband is right and Cameron is wrong. The NHS is not safe in Cameron's hands and at the very least it would be a lot safer in Miliband's hands. As would the economy as you ask.
I get the feeling that with just a little more pushing even some of the more poodle-esque Lib Dems might decide enough is enough.
I personally think PCT's are a wasted admin layer, the fact that a 11 billion pound IT system could not be delivered and had to be abandoned should be a wake up call to centralized top down delivery methods for a more responsive NHS the front line will be better able to determine and allocate resources.
Best quote of today’s PMQ’s Cameron certainly didn’t see this one coming!!
“Cameron asked Miliband verbatim:
“If Labour’s record was so good on the NHS, why were they thrown out at the last election?.
A quip which invited Ed’s response verbatim:
“If the record was so bad, why didn't you win?”
Eddy S - don't imagine that people who are against this particular set of 'reforms' disagree with you. Are you saying these 'reforms' are the answer to the problems you set out?
People know when Miliband has rattled Cameron’s cage, Cameron reverts to personal Miliband family abuse which most people find distasteful and not befitting the words from the Prime Minister of the UK!!
He has never lost any of his arrogant Flashmanesque type manner from this time at “Eton"!
@Freeman. I was under the impression that the reforms will decentralize decision making and remove layers such as the SHA's and freeing up those resources to be spent on patients and care rather than bureaucracy.
Speaking as a Tory our biggest fear is that Milliband won't be Labour Leader at the next election. Better him than Johnson or Cooper for example. Long live Ed Milliband!
By decentralising decision making eg British Rail at arms length from the Transport Minister now costs £5billion per year and not £1billion per year if state owned (report to government last year). That is what will now happen to the English NHS, if you cannot get treatment take your GP to Court? The UK & NI NHS currently costs 7% of GDP, the USA health system is between 19-21% of their GDP. Lord Ascrft and his friends will see this as another opportunity after hospital cleaning to make more money out of the English NHS it is just another business deal. Percentage of UK GDP to be 15% or more?
Ed Miliband wins 3rd PMQs in a row, but this week he had Cameron flailing.
Even under Thatcher when previous governments inflicted so much damage on the NHS funding was approximately 4.3%, now there is absolutely no real terms increase in NHS spending, in fact there is a real term cut. Now not only does Cameron and Lansley want the NHS to undergo the biggest reforms in its entire history, they also want the NHS to cut £20 billion from its expenditure all this and a real terms cut in funding?
The NHS is not safe in Tory or Lib Dem hands.
I've just watched PMQs and Cameron appears weaker and weaker by the week. The Tory planted question re. the reforms just after Milliband's only served to highlight Cameron's weakness.
Cameron is a sucker for a left jab. If Ed ever manages to learn to hook off a jab the punch will do more than ruffle the PM's hair!
Ed's a contender. Dave just a media poseur!
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