Let's not pretend that Diane Abbott's comments were genuine racism
The MP was stupid to refer to "white people", but her tweet has been taken out of context.
By Samira Shackle Published 05 January 2012 12:51
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337 comments
Mrs Abbott was actually right. Certain white people have played the ''divide and rule game''. She should have made it clear that she was talking about a specific group, rather then ''white'' people in general.
She should quit the shadow government, and come back on This week. I miss watching her on television, and it's not like Ed miliband looks like he's gonna win an election anytime soon
The fact is I hate political correctness and technically I shouldnt careless about what she said, but what I HATE with a passion are hypocrites. Remember when David Starkey claimed 'the whites have become black' when what he actually meant was that the white working class felt as oppressed as black people used to, and the outburst from the bleeding heart liberals? Shoe is on the other foot now and they try everything to defend her. REAP WHAT YOU BLOODY WELL SOW.
That champagne socialist = all talk and no principles.
8 game ban and a £40k fine should cover it.
Jesus, Diane, You've done it now I agree with Harry cole, I'm going to have to have a shower
as they say.dianne abbot has been found out,,punishment for her racism,,well lets me think..ummm..ok.. i suspend dianne abbot for 9 sessions of prime ministers questions and put her on a diversity awareness course..i think that is a fair and balanced sentence for her racism..dont you
@Cheshyre
06 January 2012 at 12:37
"Clearly the classification is inadequate, as it does not differentiate the various human races (sub-species)."
yet the scientists who work with this system haven't done so. you reckon they are "clearly" wrong because you claim the current classification is clearly" inadequate. how are you qualified to make this claim, and, why don't these scientists get it right?
"As to your motivation, the fact that you wil not address the question is proof of your discomfort."
and again you fail miserably at guesstimating my emotional state. and back to this test of yours, there isn't a test that can measure anything meaningful about humans full stop. i think you mentioned IQ tests as having some sort of relevance? is that what you assume to be a reliable litmus test for human intelligence? wouldn't surprise me much if you did, but let's get that sorted out shall we?
Looks like lee Japster has joined in..
The "good old boys" are saddling up there's goona be a high tech lynching cos "sorry massa"aint good enough - they want blood.
Oops, this is going to run and run.
wow, Abbott makes yet another clumsy remark, hold the front page...
but yes, as a white person i do find her comment offensive and bigoted, but will get over it soon.........................................................................................................................i'am over it!
You can dress this up how you want to - but still Diane Abbott made a racist remark about white people on twitter.
The comments from Diane Abbott were malicious and offensive. A member of parliament in a position of trust should not be thinking such things never mind emphasising this on a social network site. It is so wrong.
The standards set are poor and Ed Miliband needs to act swiftly. Abbot is not fit to serve as a shadow cabinet minister let alone a MP.
Where is the courage Ed Miliband. This is a weak response to situation that needed a show of leadership. This has to be said.
If Ed chooses to ignore this his position as Labour Party Leader is no longer tenable. The Labour Party does not need a ditherer it needs a leader. We are not getting that from him.
This issue has caused more damage and mistrust of MP's at time wheregood work has been to portray our parliamentary members in good light. In comparison love him of loathe him Cameron would have sacked her on the spot. Remember Patrick Mercer. Abbott simply needs to go and go now. The Labour Party does not need people who have racist thoughts. This is quite clear she knew what she was saying.
Ed have some bottle and nerve, even courage and do the right thing
The sheer length and convolution of this article shows it for what it is: a disreputable attempt to defend a racist remark through sophistry. Shorn of the author's desperate spin, what has happened is that Abbott has, once again, betrayed her true prejudices in an unguarded moment and everyone but her band of apologists can see that.
It speaks volumes that Ed Miliband has hidden behind a press release, and has permitted Abbott to hide behind the textbook non-apology apology "I'm sorry if people took offence".
Leave Diane alone, some of her best friends are white people.
Joking apart I think the article was quite balanced. She should know better to make such a comment without context and has given an excuse to her opponents who will make the 'one rule for them argument'.
Were the same people leaping to the defence of poor Alan Hansen recently though? I bet they weren't.
@Cllr. Alexander Copland (Loughton Town Council)
06 January 2012 at 12:37
"Sorry, don't know Mr or Ms or Mrs. "JANKASS" or his/her identity."
and lucky me, i say. though if you could just be bothered to spell my username correctly next time? thanks.
"(I do suspect however, from the invective exhibited`, that your correspondent is female.)"
wrong, and rather bizarre for you to claim you could figure out somehow that i should be female? do share your chain of reasoning if it's not too embarrassing. btw in almost all European countries the "jan" bit is a male name. bit of a dead give away...
" I believe that Ms. Junk-Arse has overstretched her pantyline"
way to stay classy Cllr......but your leap into the gutter does confirm that you are most probably a genuine BNP member.
i stand by my nomination for you as having provided THE most surreal post in 2012 in the 'pot calling the kettle black' category when you called Abbott out for being racist. it's just hilarious! but as you are BNP you won't have the capacity for comedy, so this will continue to perplex you.
Given that the New Statesman employs Mehdi Hasan who referred to all non Muslims as 'kaffars' like 'cattle' with no intelligence and being like 'animals', it is no surprise that this publication seeks to excuse bigoted hate speech.
Btw: I didn't see anyone rush to defend Emma West from facing prosecution and a court appearance when she made a drunken rant about immigration on a tram in Croydon. If Diane Abbott gets away with this it will only re-enforce the current "them and us" mindset.
Diane Abbott's comment is clearly racist. But so what, it's not that offensive is it really, and I'm all for free speech. I personally find her ludicrous defence the most offensive. To say it was in reference to 19th century colonialism doesn't stand up to even the most basic scrutiny: the whole tweet is in the present tense, she states 'we should not play their game', and the hashtag is 'tactics as old as colonialism' which again without doubt implies now, not 19th century.
Diane seems to both exist in a farcical fog of 1960s socialism and race relations that the vast majority of us have thankfully moved on from. I don't think many of us these days see the world in the black and white of the likes of Abbott. Sadly, the media love to whip up a frenzy one way or another and political parties seek to score points, and I can see many wishing to take a pop at Diane as she would be front of the queue with her outrage if the roles were reversed – nobody likes a hypocrite. And I think that is the root of the anger being expressed by some.
As we know, Diane has made similar comments before stating "blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls" at her local hospital in east London were unsuitable as nurses because they had "never met a black person before." If this had been said in the reverse in any part of the UK, the person saying it would have been sacked or forced to resign.
She also has stated that West Indian mums would go to the wall for their kids in a pathetic attempt to justify sending her kid to private school. If she was a white MP in Hackney saying white mums would go to the wall for their kids, again she would have been sacked or forced to resign.
And if these things had been said, the person at the front of the queue demanding blood would have been Diane Abbott. Hence the anger. What's gutting about it is, none of this is even remotely as offensive as her being a socialist who has huge aspirations for her own child and so sends him to private school, but is happy for her constituents of a huge variety of ethnic groups make do with the schools they have. Who knew 'Look After Number One' was part of the Labour mantra? Compared to that, a silly little tweet is nothing.