@Mrs,M L Bonwick-Jones
Are you sure it was only £65k?, it was probably £65 million?, because all people claiming benefits are millionaires with 8 kids and live in mansions, don`t they?, and they drive their Porsch`s and Lamborghini`s to sign on!!, before staying in the pub all day!, and all these disabled people are all layabout malingerers?, nothing wrong with any of them!, it must be true true the Daily Heil, Express, Torygraph keep telling us!!, and those reliable impartial sources 'FRAZIEL1' and 'LUDDITE' also keep telling us about all these nasty abuses!, it`s just not cricket!!, i believe there`s even a family of layabouts and scroungers living in Buck Palace!!, it`s just not on!.

p j swall, I think I hear the sound of someone losing the argument. If the lasy claimed to 15 years allowance for a car she had not got, what would that add up to? And is she right?Was she entitled to an allowance she was not entitled to. I suppose Long John Silver was entitled to be a pirate because he was disabled, was he?

This benefit cap is massively popular with the electorate. Just like the Cameron's European veto/non-veto, Labour have come down on the wrong side of public opinion.

@Fergus Pickering
There`s me, aren`t i naive, thinking it was the Greedy Landlords who got all of this extortionate housing benefit?, and i wish people would leave the Multi Millionaire C.E.Os alone! they deserve their average 49% pay rises!, even though their business results didn`t merit it!, in fact, i`d cut their taxes aswell, the ones who pay it, that is?, we should bring back victorian workhouses for all children of people on benefits!, and their parents could be used to dispose landmines by making them walk across them around the trouble spots of the world!, i`m sure all our Tory apoligists would approve?.

p j wall. We don't need to be told by the "Daily Heil, Express, Torygraph keep telling us!!" All fully understand the wide-spread abuse of the benefit system. It's just a pity you're own wretched party doesn't. Labour is committing electoral suicide.

p j wall. "Greedy Landlords" So how many affordable homes did Labour build? Let's not forget it was you're Labour party which imported mass-unemployment, 350.000 newly arrived immigrants all living on benefits.

The cap will be found illegal. Because it is arbitrary. One family will be affected, and other won't be, in identical situations apart from having an extra child.

No legal system can work in this way, and the European courts, if not British, will strike this down.

As to the stupidity and cruelty of the Tories, well we know what they are. But what about the LibDems? What on earth are they up to - political suicide? Surely the headlines will start mounting up, of homeless families, spiralling poverty - not to mention the wreckage of the NHS - and the coalition will fall apart. At last.

I was just about able to believe that £26,000 might be the mean, certainly not the median, gross income. But net? So that the gross figure is around £35,000? Pull the other one.

"The more headlines accusing Labour of "wrecking" the cap, the better, they think."

Sounds about right: the Tories don't want to solve political problems, they want headlines. They want to quip:

"have taken more positions on this (the benefits cap) than a Jane Fonda workout".

because sounding good equals being good, so far as they are concerned. Still no substance, nearly two years on.

@Frazial1
You really do belong in 30s Germany!!, Goebells would be very proud of you?, take that comment the way you want to!!.
@Fergus Pickering
Thanks for your compliments!, i find it strange your concern about my deceased parents?, i am employed, for over20 years!, but i was one of your heroes, Thatchers 3 million!, why dont you and all your other scapegoaters never seem to be to concerned about Tax Dodgers?, which outdoes benefit fraud by Billions?, and why dont yous never seem to be bothered about the Billions of unclaimed benefits?, most of the working public do sadly seem to have fallen for all the scaremongering and lies?, even friends of mine now think that EVERYONE on benefit gets at least £26k cash a year!!,even though it's blatently untrue!!, your ideological bedfellow Goebells was sadly correct when saying "Tell a lie often enough,people will start to believe it", where are you going to house all all of the people who will be thrown out of the properties they live in now?, by greedy landlords, and at what cost?, you have a bunch of over priviliged Multi Millionaires victimising the weakest in our society, whilst rewarding Greed and abuse by the richest!!, and playing on peoples prejudices and hatred towards immigrants, sick and disabled, and Everyone on benefit!!, You all have got to have someone to Hate and blame for everything, haven't you?, i've brought my young daughter up not to judge everyone the same, and to be tolerent, You wanna try it!!

You see Vince your comment is idiotic. You think that because we objevt to people receiving enormous sums in benefits that we all think they are scroungers. You could not be more wrong. The welfare state is crucial but the sums being paid out to some families are ludicrous and have to be changed.

@Rabyrover

This is all too typical of the right - denounce the unemployed as the 'undeserving poor', so that the blame for poverty can be laid at the poor themselves, thus providing the excuse not to address the real causes. Clearly, there are many on the right who have not moved on from the 19th century.

Why is it that the bishops think that £ 26.000 after tax is poverty yet it's ministers in the Church of England take home around £ 22.000!
As for Labour 'the party of the working man' has endeavored to remain in no man's land.

I remember that i found out that a Ex-Friend of my sister was able to save up £ 65.000 in 15 years Disability living allowance for car that was adapted for her needs even if she could not drive! She was quite cross when she was found out saying she was entitled to it.