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Labour holds onto Feltham and Heston seat -- but was the 8.5 per cent swing from the Tories enough?
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Failure, ignorance, envy, misery.
All words used to describe Luddite.
I mean Thatcherism was a rip roaring success, de-regulation works wonderfully well.
How did Thatcher combat youth unemployment, YOP & YTS, both successful programmes, copied all around the world.
Cue gales of laughter.
Foxy, you like sausages now (thought that was a crockodile)? Cant keep up with you. Perhaps you turned the page of your cookbook and saw a new picture.
There is no balance of payments fiasco. According to Mervyn, the pound has fallen which is discouraging imports and encouraging exports - the exact opposite of Labour policy. The coalition's supply side medicine is working but the patient was so poorly to begin with it will take a long time to recover.
Labour's last manifesto was in 5 years to fix up to half of the mess caused by the party. The coalition are mending the deficit, which is coming down, quicker than Labour would have ... but the mess left by Labour is a lot worse than anyone realised except Balls and Brown -- the boom was bigger and Labour's economic bust, as most people see it, has been a lot deep.
What gobbldygook are you on about IMF/ ECB and Cameron? What matters is that the UK is not sucked into donating vast somes of money propping up France. Miliband would given way and concede anything for the French to pretend to like him and say nice things about him which he can spin into votes - the UK national interest does not come into it.
Have you seen the Guardian article on Milibandwagon? Do you think his leadership can be compared to the leadership of IDS of the Tories (and we know what happended to IDS).
Foxy, have you asked Santa for anything for Christmas? A new coat perhaps? The rough life skulking takes its toll.
What did Labour spend the £350Bn on? Its enough to make the UK self sufficient and a net exporter of green energery. Think of all the young people we could be training up now with high quality skills.
Instead they lacked strategy and spent the money on treats. They built up the state to well beyond the point we could afford it.
And now we have to cut our cloth because of Labour - its not what my family fought for. Thanks Labour to all the unemployed now as a result.
I'm not so sure it is well done ED.
I think it is more, well done Seema, who looks like a very worthy candidate. Good luck to her. Hopefully Ed will bring some new talent to the fore, rather than his same old circle of cronies. Labour need a change at the top. Some new faces.
Not a good result for Labour - it means they'll be saddled with an unelectable leader for a while longer. Better to have got it out of the way now.
I know you do giblets Luddite, and I have an idea were you stuff them old chap.
Here's a word for you Luddite, you will find in a dictionary, gobbledygook, the nature of your comments.
You did well to sober up so early, do you gulp the Lambrini down too quickly?
Ed Miliband is not who the Blairite media wanted, so never mind opinion polls, even actual votes for a party led by him do not count.
Hello 1% did you enjoy your stuffing over the festive weekend? You’re the typical lefty aren't you Matthew? Bigoted, dogmatic, intolerant of other folk’s opinions. I bet you think you are always right don’t you? Quit the typical lefty all gob and no job. Matthew the reason many turn to the left and demand a big nanny state is because too many people vote in the expectation of getting something for nothing, not because they have any genuine concern for what is good for this country. There’s only a few people, who still believe that Marxism offers a coherent alternative to capitalism, when has socialism triumphed in any country? Socialism don’t work. All big governments end up despotic, all socialist states fail. Many with the rotting stench of decaying humanity poisoning the land. But I suppose you can keep pretending that the left offers a workable, credible alternative to the free market that doesn't involve slavery and mass-murder. Perhaps socialism with a human face? But didn't your lot try that in the 60s? Was that a roaring success?
C. Baker & Dan
This is what happens when you have an opinion from a position of ignorance.
Seema was recommended as a candidate by Ed and Harriet Hernam. She worked for both Ed and Hariet for many years and is one of their prodigies.
Underestimate ED at your peril. He is the geek that is beavering away, and despite suffering a lot of bullying, will get top grades in the end.
Ed is no Gordon Brown. He knowns how to fight back and he will.
I would rather the geek, than his back stabbing brother. He is another Blair and Dodgy Dave. We do not need another one.
SUCCESS IS THE BEST FORM OF REVENGE.
I hope santa gives a brain Inbrew, whether you use it is another matter.
Look at Cameron's handy work with the Eurozone Crisis, we are subjected to weekly crisis meetings.
Labour holds onto Feltham and Heston seat -- but was the 8.5 per cent swing from the Tories enough? So why is Labour nationally trailing the Tories by 6%? Some folks are so easily pleased, let’s be brutally honest here Labour's has an awful leader who possesses the charisma of a wet-lettuce. Labour’s weak and getting weaker in Scotland and many English voters were outrage at Milliband siding with the French. It’s not going to plan is it? The Tories do all these nasty things; sack all those vital public workers, reform state pensions, sort-out state Education, end Labour’s foreign wars, cut's Labour’s deficit. Then the grateful electorate will welcome an Eastern European Marxist into number 10. It’s not going to happen; it’s not surprising the Scot’s are turning to the Nationalists.
Labour trailing by 6%, in your dreams Luddite, is that another Mark Twain misquote?
It is a desperate animal, who uses one poll as an example.
You are brutal Luddite, but honest, not in a million years you dimwit.
Foxy, are you stocking up for winter with your pork pies?
Yes Thatcher did borrow and did use North Sea oil. But foxy, "like there was no tomorrow" -- now you fib. Thatcher implemented monetarism and left the country without a structural deficit.
Did the national debt quadruple under the last government? Of course, lets erase it from history or blame the Tories for it. Balls oversaw the production of Treasury forecasts which were used to spin the justify Labours borrowing. Spin spin spin -- Labour relies on zombies who blindly accept it.
Its no secret what Balls did. Its the reason the OBR was set up (a personal achievement of Balls) which Milibandwagon is going to keep.
The £350 Bn borrowed by Labour before 2008 is in addition to the North Sea oil money Labour spent as the oil has kept on flowing and continues to be Scotlands biggest private sector employer .
Matthew fox. Came down from your political asshole. The inherent problem with capitalism is its unequal sharing of its blessings, but the inherent problem with socialism is the equal sharing of misery. The left-wing assumption that spending others people's money will make things better has survived all kinds of evidence that it makes things worse. We have more poverty more want more inequality and more debt after 13 years of socialism. That's despite the billions squandered by Ed Ball/Gordon Brown and the previously now totally economically discredited Socialist Labour party. Or wasn't Labour Socialist enough?
"It is a desperate animal, who uses one poll as an example"
Does that include Labour losing the last election and not making the mid-term breakthrough needed to win the next?
Lol Inastew, again you don't seem to understand the term " record "
Why is that?
Luddite considering your always talking out of your back nine, I am deeply insulted by your words.
We do have more poverty and inequality, take for instance child poverty.
It decline by 800,000 under Blair and Brown Luddite. In 1998 it stood at 3.4 million, by 2009 it stood at 2.6 million.
That is why you hate Labour no much, it actually did something to tackle poverty. You will never forgive them will you Luddite.
Just remind me how putting 17.5% vat on gas and electricity bills helped social inequality?
You make people's life a misery Luddite, your an expert.
Ps are you fully booked over Christmas with your Village People tribute acts? Is it fun to stay at the YMCA Luddite?
Labour achieved nothing of the sort poverty is increasing despite the billions squandered by the now previously totally economically discredited Labour party. Labour didn't end relative poverty they masked it with borrowed money you don't solve problems by throwing money at the problem, and neither do you do for others that others should do for themselves. Matthew what is your fascination with a gay icon band, was it my mention of assholes.
What percentage of this Labour victory was down to decidedly dodgy postal votes?
Luddite, calm down, it isn't healthy you silly fool.
Your the genius who wants to re-introduce slavery, do you remember wanting to trade with former colonies like it was the mid 16th century?
Don't you remember say that " Working Folks " wouldn't vote for Miliband, and he's five for five.
I bet he laughs his head off at you when he reads your posts.
Your a great Marxist Luddite, Harpo Marx. Was Karl the shy one ?
Just a point to make me aware of Luddite, who actual feeds you ?
Someone who is proud of the 1980s, the era of mass unemployment, wouldn't it be a better idea to pipe down?
Before I forget, look up the word Oaf Luddite, you will find it comes after Logic in the dictionary.
I see now Luddite it is " Relative Poverty "
Is that the same as Thatcher's grinding poverty?
I like to think that the facts tend to speak for themselves.
Come on Luddite, it is the season of goodwill not illwill, you fessed up yet again.
Didn't Mark Twain once say a Luddite in the hand, is worthless?
Well done Luddite, totally agree. The loony lefties that contribute to this magazine are just so funny...if a little sad. I log in to have a laugh at their pethetic wimperings. Happy Christmas loony lefties, thanks for making me laugh so much in 2012.
Pork Pies, do you mean Melton Mowbray pork pies.
I hear your a bit of a foodist Inbrew, who preaches the virtues of red herrings.
Do you smoke them or fry them?
Inbrew, have you ever heard of Rachel Lomax, a former deputy BOE governor?
You will find her words on Thatcherism, very concise and to the point.
Monetarism, that old gag. What happened to the £50 Billion state sell off revenues Inbrew, should I ask Sid?
Just thinks, instead of the National debt standing at £400 Billion in 1997, it could have been wiped out with all that money.
Can you do the maths also Inbrew.
Luddite writes,'Please don't get carried away your great leader sided with the French against the interests of his own people...'
Perhaps you could tell us precisely what these 'interests' are that the French threatened. Don't confuse the banks' interest with the popular interest. They don't give a fig for the national interest when it comes to offshore tax havens.
What grinding poverty 1%? Grinding poverty is what you find in Africa and the Indian subcontinent. You really are an ass. Of course I will be celebrating the winter solstice life is all about eating fine food and drinking fine wine but not French wine. Why not am successful, the only poverty we have in this country is one of aspiration and in many the lack of a work ethic. All the so-called "secrets of success" will not work unless you do it. Matthew the only place where success comes before work is in the dictionary, and Matthew. Maggie is a very frail old lady so you can come-out from under your bed. Matthew you are not beyond redemption, but remember this. A round man cannot be expected to fit in a square hole right away. He must have time to modify his shape.
Peter aren't you sick Osborne robbing you to pay Paul?
With the number of unemployed swell day on day, the working voter is shrinking.
The working class had been attacked with VAT rises, tax credits being frozen and women having to give up work due to the cut in Childcare Working Tax credits.
Labour is Middle Class and Elitist? Both Milibands went to a comprehensive, Cameron and Clegg are public schoolboys, is this elitism in reverse?
Osborne found time to sit out the Eurozone crisis to watch tennis a Wimbledon.
What outcome does Peter want? The private sector is shedding jobs, 775 businesses going bust every week, is this the definition of success?
Please don't get carried away your great leader sided with the French against the interests of his own people, but that's not surprising Ed sided with the old enemy, Ed's not even English ouch!!
"If the country was doing well, the Tories would have taken this seat, it is a simple as that"
Look here 1% who ever said Labour's debt reduction would be quick painless or easy you really do believe in fairy stories, and let's not forget the low turn-out is a 11 year record.
Luddite you sound like John Moore,do you remember that failed Conservative?
Mrs T trebled the number of low income households during her regime.
Fine wine, I am told you will only drink wine out of a carton or can.
As for fine food, Pot Noodles and Gala Pies cannot be defined as such, and your palate isn't going to be that discriminating is it really, I am sure you have eaten food found on the pavement before.
The phrase guttersnipe springs to mind Luddite, that comes after class in the dictionary.
Bottoms Up Luddite.
I see you have fuck-all to say again.
"The phrase guttersnipe springs to mind Luddite, that comes after class in the dictionary" I Fucking bet you had too think about that one... ABC..
Samira Shackle is a freelance journalist, who tweets @samirashackle. She was formerly a staff writer for the New Statesman.