Is it a marathon, a sprint or jogging on the spot, Ed?
The Labour leader's strategy relies on voters one day realising that he was right all along. Then re
By Rafael Behr Published 16 December 2011 13:59
The Labour leader's strategy relies on voters one day realising that he was right all along. Then rewarding him for it.{C}
The Financial Times has an interview with Ed Miliband this morning, revealing in that it shows the Labour leader unperturbed by his party's apparent failure to break through in opinion polls and confident that voters are swinging in his general direction.
In fact, he tells the FT opinion is "moving significantly towards us" and cites as evidence the fact that David Cameron has had to imitate some of Labour's language about responsibility at the top of society and excessive corporate pay.
Meanwhile, the Labour leader continues to express certainty that, eventually, voters will see that the coalition's economic plans have unravelled and start listening more to the opposition.
I think 2011 was the year when the economic argument has shifted. The government's economic strategy has fallen apart in my view.
Well yes, that is his view and he soldiers on in dogged determination to bring the country round to sharing it. The problem is that Miliband has yet to demonstrate that he has any effective techniques for mass persuasion. By his own admission, Cameron is prepared to ape Labour's potentially popular banker-bashing postures and there is a peculiar complacency in thinking that voters care who said something first. Miliband's strategy seems to be based on an assumption that you can build a wonderful edifice of analytical truth about the failings of the current system and critiques of the incumbent government, so it is all ready to be admired when the electorate deigns to pay attention. I can't think of an example of this approach - build it and they'll come - working in recent political history.
Of course, Labour can take some comfort from the party's fairly easy win in yesterday's by election in Feltham and Heston. I doubt that will stop the frustrated murmuring that is getting louder on the opposition benches. The party's strategic dilemma, or rather its confusion, is neatly encapsulated in one especially odd line from the Miliband interview today:
I always said it would be a long journey to be just a one-term opposition.
Surely if the ambition is to be in opposition for just one term, the journey is, by definition, relatively short. You can just about see his point - there is a lot of work to do in a short space of time. But at the moment it feels as if Labour hasn't decided whether it is running a marathon or a sprint - or maybe just jogging on the spot.
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26 comments
That why on all the big issues Ed leads and Dodgy Dave follows.
The public will not be fooled twice, by the media into voting for Cameron again.
I TRUST THE BRITISH PUBLIC.
Inbrew, the head of the IMF and World Bank agree their is no light at the end of the tunnel.
Your arguments are very weak and poor.
Miliband was ahead of the story with the ECB/Eurozone & Phone Hacking. Poor Cameron has been weeks behind on both issues.
Then again you have no idea of Cameron's eurozone policy have you?
I think it's easy to forget where Ed came from. A huge amount of his time has been taken up by airbrushing himself in order to fit into a so called civilised society that allows nine old people to die per hour in the winter months through cold related illness. To be honest I think he's done a remarkable job in losing the Red Ed tag and frustrating the media. Funny how heaven and earth can be moved to prosecute rioters, save the bankers and go to war while we can seemingly do nothing about the 25,700 people who died from cold-related illnesses last year alone according to the ONS or the rich getting richer.We can do nothing about pay for the directors of the UK's top businesses rising by 50% over the past year either but we can freeze public sector pay and slash public sector jobs and attack pensions.Ed has made himself fit very neatly into all of this. Shame our civilised society has been brainwashed into caring more about who is supposed to be in the pockets of the Unions rather than the plight of our old and weak. They're just scroungers I suppose.
I see the head of the World Bank is criticising Cameron's leadership.
Robert Zoellick wants the eurozone debt crisis sorting.
Somehow Mr Zoellick hasn't much confidence in take your bat and ball strategy.
@matt
Phone hacking was a Miliband bandwagon - he jumped on after it got going as an issue. In not way shape or form did he trigger or lead on it becoming a major issue.
Hacking was going on back in 2002/3 and was a well known issue, not just by papers but for personal security generally. Is Milibandwagon leading on the issue of personal security or the role of Labour and the press when they were in power?
The reason he is not is because their is no tactical political capital for him. Otherwise he would have been campaigning against hacking which was widely know about before it broke as a big story.
QED: Miliband is a shallow opportunist.
Surely Ed hasn't forgotten The First Rule: that there is no gratitude in politics.The Second that the electorate are pretty fickle and have short memories, vey short memories and think more of their own stomachs than lofty ideals. And the Third: don't trust them the electorate promise one thing and do another.
The Indy alsohas a pretty poor report on Ed.
My own view isthe public can't connect with him. Ed doesn't pass the 'would you be happy to have a drink with him at the local especially if he was buying' Test?
Same with Yvette, she wouldn't connect either. Neither does Ken whose turning out to be a miserable so and so.
But I regret and ashamed to say that the old buffoon Boris does pass the test. Likeability and chuminess.
Our next Labour Leader has to be just that likeable.
The labour leaders strategy does not take into account that people are generally shallow. And so his mind numbingly boring voice (try and listen to a sentence of his without going into a daydream)and his muppet esque appearance - as well as the fact he is another labour leader from a liberal elite (out of touch, mean that he will never be popular
Look another Ed Miliband hater, how pathetic.
Unemployment at a 17 year high seems to be mind numbing for many conservatives, then again they don't care.
Irregardless of who is the Labour leader, does anybody really think that the Tories or the Liberals will get more votes at a new election than they did last time?. For goodness sake they couldn't get a majority when they were faced with a lame duck leader and an apparently broke country. Smarmy Dave maybe talks a good game but talk is cheap and you are deluding yourself if you think that the people can't see him for the shyster he is. Maybe Ed isn't the most charismatic of personalities but he does come across as sincere and the Tories forget that at their peril.
I don't think that it is Ed doing anything so drastically wrong. I'm just not sure what labour stands for, after the new labour years.
However, Labour will probably always have the vote of the unions and public sector, which is large and the inner cities. So maybe they can get in without an amazing leadership.
I think the biggest threat to labour votes, may not be Ed's leadership. I think it may be a loss of votes in Scotland to the snp and also, the stance Labour takes in europe.
I can't see how Labour would manage to get away with spending more, inside the strict austerity measures Europe wants to impose.
I think whatever leader Labour has, it will be more about how their policies can be implemented in a recession, rather than the actual leader.
These are difficult times for any leader.
Is a car, is it a train?
No its a ... Milibandwagon.
If the Feltham by election did not show that the British; yes, care about Europe, but will not based their vote purely on Europe; then nothing else does.
If a person's appearance is what makes him an electable leader, then take caution in the two most morally bankrupt leaders of our time; namely, Blair and Dodgy Dave.
Better to be geek than a pendant wearing Troll.
"I'm just not sure what labour stands for"
@C Baker has nailed it. EM should have really gone hard at developing the Labour strategy. Instead EM has spent a year focussing on tactics, sadly as usual for Labour. So now we dont know what the party stands for (apart from disagreeing with the Tories often in direct conflict with the majority of poeple) or where it is going.
e.g. take the Cameron treaty veto. 60% of people support it, a huge majority, and we now find the UK has what it want AND will be involved with the full group signing up to the treat - a Win-Win for Britain. But instead of thinking and applying a set of beliefs and strategic priciples Milibandwgaon jumps into a popularity tactic immediately after the veto and makes a big play critising it. Now millions of people see him a weak coward who would be first in the queue to sell British interests cheaply to win himself popularity.
@Lady J
"That why on all the big issues Ed leads"
Oh that ridiculous - pull the other one. Milibandwagon is a directionless opportunistic tactictian drifting along aimlessly and you know it. He's been leader for a long time ... what's his or Labour's strategy? Exactly.
We both know something will arise in the news and bandwagon will jump on it to make himself look to be "leading". If he was ahead of Cameron then whats EM's next move?
Who has the strongest Christian values?
Oh dear.
Millions of British people see ED as weak, that why the first test Dave faced to prove that theory, he lost his party 8% of their votes in a targeted seat.
I LOVE THE BRITISH PEOPLE!!
@matt
Foxy, is there light at the end of the tunnel? (The tunnel you spend most of your life hiding in).
Its a safe labour seat with a long term labour majority. How can you possibly say it is representative of the general public vote? How so very Labour spin.
The fact is support for Labour plus dislike of the coalition is very weak. Mid term with the tough economy, very few people came out to protest.
People see Milibandwagon is a shallow opportunist who makes his values up on the hoof to win popularity. Its why there are so may Labour supporters on a left wing bias blogg like NS who ask questions about his leadership.
EM has no future - Ed Balls will overtake him as Labour leader. EM has crossed the unions on pensions and supports austerity. EB has a clean public sheet (although is a grubby character when you learn about the huge money he has been raking in from his consultancies an appointments: he could not even wait until he left public service)
Only a tiny majority of people turned out - Labour were unable to raise a wave of anti-tory voters: its because there is no wave. The election proved the majority of people are conent with the coalition.
EM will be worried why so few people were willing to protest given the EU crisis, public sector strikes, world economic downturn, and his inspiring leaderhsip.
8% is a very small mid term swing in such a strong Labour seat and not enough to win the party power. If the Lib dem vote collapses then it is signaling the Tories will win next time.
It looks like Inbrew cannot add up.
First of all Labour received 12,639 votes. The combined Tory and Lib Dem vote came to 7,800. Inbrew's definiton of majority seems shaky.
In 2010, Labour majority was cut to under 5,000 with a 5.2% swing to the Conservatives.
The Conservatives had lost ground in the seat.
If 60% of the people are behind Cameron, why did they sit at home?
I totally agree with saltyseadog above. Cameron is a shallow, snake oil merchant. As has been said, he and his Machiavellian Prince Boy Georgie could not win a majority at the last election even with all the probs that Labour were having. If you remember Boy Beorgie did not even feature in the last election very much as he is totally untrustworthy and the electorate know it. Gideon is a clueless, ideologically driven fool who spouts austerity and even more austerity whilst spouting his Orwellian "doublethink" mantra that "We are ALL in this together".and economy goes down the gurgler. He is basically a lying, arrogant Tory toad. I like Ed Miliband. He comes across as an honest, decent bloke having to deal with snakes, vipers and vermin across the despatch box and I think he does a good job showing them to be "hollow men" who will get their comeuppance.
Indu, I am warming up to you cos you are so tory. I know facts do matter to Tories; but seriously stop digging and accept defeat, graciously.
John Henry
You say of Ed Miliband,
'---He comes across as an honest, decent bloke having to deal with snakes, vipers and vermin across the despatch box and I think he does a good job showing them to be "hollow men" who will get their comeuppance'.
This john is what the British public sees as well.
The pundits as usual, ignored the most important results in the recent polls; the British public find Ed more in touch with the British people and more honest than Dodgy Dave.
THIS IS WHAT THE BRITISH PUBLIC WILL VOTE FOR.
Every thing is cyclic, so I suppose he will eventualy be right by default - but he may have to wait a few decades before we can get in a position to support the labour driving prinipcles of sepnd our taxes.
MilliE doesn't have any other ideas - for too far too fast read any thing they want to do I will say the oppossite.
Ed Miliband is not who the Blairite media wanted, so never mind opinion polls, even actual votes for a party led by him do not count.
Labour's fifth by-election win in succession since Ed Miliband became Leader. An 8.5 per cent swing from the Conservatives to Labour.
But none of that counts, because, rather poignantly today, he is The Wrong Brother.