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PMQs review: Cameron and Miliband stick to the script

As the economy worsens, both leaders are holding out for eventual victory.

Fortunately for David Cameron, parliament was in recess when last week's terrible employment figures were published, but Ed Miliband was determined not to let him escape. Playing his favourite game of "ask the Prime Minister a question he doesn't know the answer to", Miliband asked Cameron how much long-term youth unemployment had risen by since he scrapped the Future Jobs Fund in March. Cameron didn't know the answer (77 per cent) but he did know that youth unmployment rose by 40 per cent under Labour and that David Miliband (a man he quotes at every available opportunity) had assured him that "this government did not invent the problem".

Miliband lamented the PM's complacency and urged him to tax bankers' bonuses to create a 100,000 jobs for young people. But Cameron hit back with a potent stat of his own. Labour, he claimed, had pledged to use the revenue from the tax for nine separate causes. It was "the bank tax that likes to say yes". The snappy soundbite roused the Tory benches but Miliband had a new line of his own. Cameron was blaming others again, it's his ABC - Anyone But Cameron. At least some Tory ministers will have discreetly nodded in agreement.

For the rest of the session, the two leaders stuck to the script. Miliband accused Cameron of treating unemployment as "a price worth paying to protect his failed plan", while Cameron asked why Labour alone believed that the solution to a debt crisis was more debt. What he omitted to mention was that his own government is set to borrow £109bn more than forecast at the time of the Spending Review. Labour's old charge that you can't have a credible deficit reduction plan without growth rings truer every day.

Cameron's response will be to argue that things would have been even worse under Labour, a claim that Miliband, in the absence of a time machine, can never wholly refute. Today's flat and repetitive exchanges were a reminder that the economic battle might not end in victory for one side but in a messy draw.

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16 comments

Jimminy Wicket's picture

@Mrs,M L Bonwick-Jones
23 November 2011 at 16:29

"Another little tiny point if i may correct me if i am wrong but Long-Term youth unemployment had risen by 40% under New Labour is that the fault of David Cameron.

For heaven's sake woman, think before you comment!

Long term Youth unemployment has risen 77% in 18 months during Cameron’s watch, whereas youth long term unemployment rose 40% in 13 years under the previous Labour government.

Tory = 77% in 18 MONTHS!

Labour = 40% in 13 YEARS!!

Mrs,M L Bonwick-Jones's picture

Yes the country has gone to pot, so has the rest of the world! David Cameron as also only been around for just 18 months as you say not very long at all, he has not even made a ripple in the ocean,This problem of unemployment has been around for a long time, both Spain and France have a much higher unemployment rate then we do! But prehaps now that Spain have their first Conservative Prime Minister for 43 years prehaps things will change, do people wonder why europe are moving away from Labour Ask the Lovely David Miliband, back to jobs, employers are too frightened to take on more people at the moment as they donot know what will happen to the rest of the world, banks are not lending money and most people prefer to employ nice eastern europe then people from the UK, and it is cheaper for companies to work outside of the UK, we have loads of problems not just with youth unemployment, and the Goverment needs to quickly act and Labou need to pull their socks up.

Whig's picture

Labour borrowed a ton of money and spent it on creating non-jobs in their client state public sector. That is an unsustainable course.

Borrowing is not rational unless the money is invested in a wealth creating activity.

Governments should either raise taxes or cut spending. This endless borrowing is madness as all the money has to be paid back with interest. The more you borrow the more you cannibalise future tax revenue, it's a death spiral.

Jimminy Wicket's picture

"David Cameron as also only been around for just 18 months as you say not very long at all he has not even made a ripple in the ocean,"

With over one million long term unemployed youth, god help the rest of them when he starts making waves!

mcquade's picture

"But prehaps now that Spain have their first Conservative Prime Minister for 43 years"

And France has had a conservative government for the past 15 years and look, as you say, what they have done to youth unemployment!

mark_76's picture

Mrs M.L B-J

I see its a world crisis well thats not what we heard from the Tories when the crash happened in 2008. I thought it was only a localised UK deficit problem. Ah but now there in control its a world crisis.

People are not as stupid as Cameron thinks we are.

Stu's picture

Let face it, youth unemployment has always been high, increased by 40% by labour and now 77% by the Tories... fact!

But you have to put it into perspective. Labour ruled under a decade of boom, plentiful borrowing which should have been invested wisely, but were mostly squandered... under these very nice conditions they still managed to increase youth unemployment by 40%! I don't know about you but that is truely shocking. So now the Tories pickup 40% of youth unemployment, add to that the global crisis we are experiencing now it's no wonder it's upto 77%. Cameron hasn't inherited good stats to begin with...

Mrs,M L Bonwick-Jones's picture

I agree David Cameron unlike Tony Blair inherited a total mess in this country, and he has to put up with the total mess that is europe(we should be allowed to have our vote)Things are a lot worse then he thought they would be, and Labour would be doing the same as the goverment if they were in power. Why the gorgeous David Miliband is a member of such a party as it is now i do not know! I think i should go now and take my dogs for a run in the yorkshire moors before starting work. One of them reminds me of ed Miliband
big brown eyes,pleading , shiny coat,wet nose and totally stupid!

Mrs,M L Bonwick-Jones's picture

Ed Miliband went on one subject today youth unemployment- i think he was blaming the goverment even when his handsome older brother stated this goverment did not create youth unemployment it has been a problem for years.
Although Ed Miliband's 'ABC anything but Cameron was quite funny, he just seems to follow the same tired script with phrases such as 'out of touch', and because of Ed Milibands choice of shadow chancellor with his very isolated and out of touch way of dealing with the deficit as in spend your way out of dept! when David Cameron ask's the question 'is there any other country who thinks the answer to dept is more dept' he could say 'yes the uk' as George Osborne will need to spend more money then expected but he cannot ever say that Ed is completely stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea! and a message to Ed dear chap the future jobs fund was rubbish it is a pity you cannot see that, and the dig at gorgeous George Osborne was not very fair or correct, be bold next week, and forget the script you are far more better when you are being natural and you will never beat the Prime Minister at PMQ's unless you approach things from a different angle.

swatantra nandanwar's picture

I was just thinking we haven't had a decent World Chess Championship now for ages. Not since the days of Fischer v Karpov. Why not? We really do need to raise interest in the Sport/Game.

mcquade's picture

'is there any other country who thinks the answer to dept is more dept' he could say 'yes the uk'

Or the danish Social Democrats who have embarked on a stimulus programme, and they even won an election.

mcquade's picture

"the future jobs fund was rubbish"

Is that why the numbers of long-term youth unemployed went down during its operation, not up as they have under the Work Programme?

Dear woman, equip yourself with facts before making a fool of yourself - the sting won't hurt so much.

Graeme Hancocks's picture

ABC - Anybody But Cameron. I like that.

Cameron is a smooth operator. Time will expose that one for the fake he is. EM needs to keep plugging away and build up a strong team and set of policies to rescue this country once this lot have exhausted themselves - and the country.

Jimminy Wicket's picture

Mrs,M L Bonwick-Jones

Do you ever listen to what is being said @ PMQ's?

Miliband said ABC.. "anyone but Cameron"

"dept!" which department would that be?

"as George Osborne will need to spend more money then expected

"Then expected" what?

Jimminy Wicket's picture

"i think he was blaming the goverment even when his handsome older brother stated this goverment did not create youth unemployment it has been a problem for years"

If you has listened without your usual bias you would have heard Ed Miliband say( not verbatim) in percentage terms youth unemployment has risen higher during the last 18 months under Cameron's watch than it did in the percentage terms of thirteen years of the last labour government

Mrs,M L Bonwick-Jones's picture

Bias Little Me!
Some may say(Not Me) that Ed Miliband is inept,predictable, is not his handsome brother,he always misses open goals and does not have the presence of mind to anticipate the way his remarks are going to be interpreted by his opposition, but i think he is a total sweetie!
Another little tiny point if i may correct me if i am wrong but Long-Term youth unemployment had risen by 40% under New Labour is that the fault of David Cameron.

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