25 killed as Egyptians clash with army in Cairo
Video shows security forces storming al-Hurra TV headquarters, forcing end to broadcast.
By Alice Gribbin Published 10 October 2011 13:05
In the worst violence since February when 18 days of demonstrations lead to the ousting of President Hosni Mubarak, Egyptian military police clashed with protesters in the centre of Cairo yesterday, leaving 25 people dead and 272 wounded.
Tahrir Square became the epicentre of renewed violence when rioting spread from a nearby state television building. According to the Associated Press, Coptic Christians protesting against the demolition of a church in southern Egypt "came under assault by people in plain clothes and were later confronted by security forces." Further into the evening, Christians and Muslims were killed by gunfire and armoured vehicles after 1,000 troops deployed by state authorities moved into the centre of the city.
Egypt's official news agency, Mena, reported that dozens of "instigators of chaos" were arrested following the clash. A curfew over the city was lifted at 5am GMT Monday.
The video above shows Egyptian security forces entering the headquarters of all-Hurra TV news station during the violence. The broadcast was very shortly removed from the air.
UK foreign secretary William Hague has released a statement in which he withholds suggestion of an instigator for the violent outbreak:
I am deeply concerned by the unrest yesterday in Cairo and I condemn the loss of life. I urge all Egyptians to refrain from violence and support the Egyptian prime minister's call for calm. It is essential that all sides take immediate steps to de-escalate the situation and engage in dialogue. The freedom of religious belief is a universal human right which needs to be protected everywhere, and the ability to worship in peace is a vital component of any free and democratic society.
Commentators on Twitter, meanwhile, have been laying blame for the deaths on the ruling military council, Supreme Council of the Armed Forces -- see #SCAF
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On social justice issues, the Muslim Brotherhood is not what it was, having changed direction to recant the public ownership and the wealth redistribution for which it used to campaign, and to support Mubarak's land reform reversals. But it could easily be talked into changing back, especially since it is by no means clear how convinced the party at large has ever been about these revisions at the top. Remind you of anyone? http://www.online-legal-info.com/
Ah yes, gerry, Yemen. Who is to take over there? The Islamists? Or the totally unreconstructed Stalinists? It has to be one or the other.
David - yes, in Yemen the fundamentalists are likely to take over once Saleh is gone - the ex Communists were always a paper tiger!
But unlike you, I am profoundly depressed that the "Arab Spring" is unstoppably leading into the creation of fully Islamic religion-based states, with all the horrific implications that has for Copts, secularists, liberals or socialists.
Look at Tunisia, which on paper had the best chance of establishing a secular democracy..even there Islamists have been demanding that women can wear burka/niqabs at university and school; or in Egypt where the extremists are running their "million beards" campaign, and as I said in Libya where the Islamists have already won...
Its back to the old days. Plus ca change.
But the demo was counter-productive, and the organisers very well knew thatit could lead tpo violent reaction; so why go ahead with it?
One quarter of the Egyptian Parliament should be elected on a constituency basis, one quarter elected on a proportional basis, forty-five per cent (an equal number of men and women) nominated by the General Guide of the Muslim Brotherhood, and five per cent (an equal number of men and women) nominated by the Coptic Patriarch.
No legislation could be introduced unless sponsored by at least one MP from each of those four categories, nor could it be enacted without the approval of all four of the General Guide, the Patriarch, and the first and second-placed candidates in a direct Presidential election, termed the President and the Vice-President but enjoying exactly equal powers. Why not?
On social justice issues, the Muslim Brotherhood is not what it was, having changed direction to recant the public ownership and the wealth redistribution for which it used to campaign, and to support Mubarak's land reform reversals. But it could easily be talked into changing back, especially since it is by no means clear how convinced the party at large has ever been about these revisions at the top. Remind you of anyone?
If Iran, Syria, the Palestinians, and the Lebanese coalition including Hezbollah are anything to go by, then the Copts are very well-placed to strike an excellent deal, in stark contrast to our beloved Israel, Turkey and Mubarak.
And the Muslim Brotherhood, founded by British intelligence in order to agitate against independence, has always enjoyed excellent Foreign Office connections. So Commonwealth membership beckons, especially for a country which even still has a currency called the pound.
This is Britain's moment. Otherwise, such are the historic ties and the widespread proficiency in English that we should expect each our cities to contain several, and each of our large towns to contain one, of those Coptic churches as one tenth of Egyptian population decamps to the most obvious alternative country from there point of view.
As with the Arabs inside Israel's 1948 borders, why did we not do for them what we later did for the East African Asians, but a generation earlier, when we were still just about in a position to back it up?
how many Christians haver to be subject to ethnic cleansing in the Middle East before someone accuratley reports what is happening?
It is one of the great misteries that the ethnic cleansing is not widely reported and that when parts of it are it is written as if it is not.
Disgraceful reporting. WHy are Christians in the MIddle East treated differently to other groups who are oppressed.
Tariq - George Bush and Tony Blair probably did not know that there were Christian communities in the Middle East, and no doubt imagine even now that they are made up only of very recent converts served by missionaries who have arrived since the “liberation” of Iraq.
Their neoconservative puppet-masters relied on that, and the corresponding popular, ignorance in order to use those communities as bait for the jihadis whom they knew would pour into Iraq if the Ba’ath regime were removed, the easier to kill them.
Although at an academic level Evangelicalism is returning to its more cerebral roots within the Great Tradition, at any popular level the existence of Christian communities going all the way back to the Day of Pentecost remains almost unknown.
The forms that they take make them as unmentionable as the Sub-Apostolic Fathers, with their matter-of-fact presentation of all things “Romish” as the context presupposed by the New Testament text, even by those who are aware of them.
And that ridiculous, utterly anti-intellectual nineteenth-century aberration, Dispensationalism, remains staggeringly influential.
Alice - the persecution of the Copts is part of the wider picture of the so-called Arab spring, which has got rid of secular dictators only to see a huge upsurge of Islamic fundamentalists and extremists everywhere, esp in Egypt.
Those silly Facebook fools who let the genie out of the bottle simply opened the door wide for extremist political Islam to grab total social cultural and political power
This was all too predictable once these "uprisings" started - the only major political force apart from the military in Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Tunisia etc are the Islamic extremidts, be they Salafists or Muslim Brotherhood, or the libyan islamis armed fighting roups which runs the so called Transitional Council..
Even more hilariously, Nato and the US have been backing these Islamic forces in Libya..and they will reap the whirlwind, as the Copts are doing now.
In five years time, I will be amazed if there is any thing resembling secular democracy, human rights, womens rights in Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Tunisia...just as in Libya, where the ruling council stated last week it wants to establish an Islamic state based on "moderate" sharia law (an oxymoron).... the future in the Arab world looks even bleaker than it was under Gaddafi, Mubarak, Ben Ali and Saleh.
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