When Clegg supported an EU referendum
The Lib Dem leader was in favour of an in/out referendum before he was against one.
By George Eaton Published 22 October 2011 10:28
In a desperate attempt to dissuade Tory MPs from voting in favour of a referendum on EU membership next Monday, William Hague takes to the pages of the Telegraph today. The great eurosceptic writes:
As a Conservative, I want to bring powers back from Europe, as we set out in our election manifesto. But a referendum on Britain's membership of the EU, especially at this time of profound economic uncertainty, is not the answer.
It's noteworthy that all three of the main parties are now ordering their MPs to vote against the Commons motion (currently supported by 86 MPs). But here's an inconvenient truth: one of them previously supported an in/out referendum. In their 2010 election manifesto, the Lib Dems called for a national vote on Britain's EU membership. Here's the pledge in full:
The European Union has evolved significantly since the last public vote on membership over thirty years ago. Liberal Democrats therefore remain committed to an in / out referendum the next time a British government signs up for fundamental change in the relationship between the UK and the EU.
And here's the text of the Commons motion:
That this House calls upon the Government to introduce a Bill in the next session of Parliament to provide for the holding of a national referendum on whether the United Kingdom should
(a) remain a member of the European Union on the current terms;
(b) leave the European Union; or
(c) re-negotiate the terms of its membership in order to create a new relationship based on trade and co-operation.
True, the Lib Dem pledge contains a notable caveat ("the next time a British government signs up for fundamental change") but as the Guardian's Nicholas Watt notes, that didn't stop Clegg walking out of the Commons on 26 February 2008 when the then speaker, Michael Martin, refused to call a Lib Dem amendment demanding a referendum. After Ed Davey (then the party's foreign affairs spokesman) was expelled from the chamber, Clegg said:
I share the dismay of [Ed Davey]. What guidance can [the deputy speaker] give me on how we can secure - if not today, at some point during the remaining stages of the Bill - the opportunity to debate the issue that many members want debated and many members of the public want debated: our future membership of the EU?
Davey's words were even more striking:
Will the chair reconsider the decision not to select the Liberal Democrat amendment for a referendum on Britain's membership of the EU? That is the question that goes to the heart of the debate before the House. That is the debate that people want to hear. We are being gagged, Sir.
Like Keynes, the Lib Dems can argue that when the facts change, they change their mind. The holding of a referendum on Britain's EU membership is not a credible response to the current crisis. But Clegg's latest U-turn will only increase his reputation for inconsistency.
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You mean the LibDems aren't keeping to a manifesto pledge! Whatever next.
This is just gratuitous Clegg-bashing. I'm not a Lib Dem by any stretch of the imagination, but it doesn't take a degree in linguistics to be able to understand that the Lib Dems committed themselves to a referendum when there was FUNDAMENTAL change to our relationship with the EU. This is why politics is so bad today, people like you, George, distorting the facts.
It's hardly a u-turn. There's no "fundmental change" in the European Union to justify the need for a referendum. That requirement for "fundamental change" is considerably more than a caveat, but the fundamental requirement that needs to be present before a referendum can be justified.
Heaven knows that there's load of things to criticise Clegg for, but this type of reporting is worthy of the tabloids.
That's what it might say in the manifesto, but I have most crtainly heard Clegg several times since the election promising a referendum without any reference to that caveat.
These English monsters! My Lord of Cambridge here, or is it. Lord Milliband, Lord Cameron and Lord Clegg..
Well, the policy was only to hold a referendum if there was a fundamental change in the relationship with the EU: there is no fundamental change in our relationship with the EU. If there was - then it's government policy that there would be a referendum. So I fail to see how this is a Lib Dem U-turn?
no one's keeping their pledge i.e. to serve the Queen and her subjects
Since no EU country (or G8 or G20 for that matter) has a clue about or is willing to stop bailouts, it's not surprising that the EU could fall apart.
Why? Because politics being what it is, self preservation comes first. The politicians can spin it in nice soundbites about "preserving the spirit of the EU" and various others. However, when push comes to shove, protectionism kicks in.
The EU, IMF and whoever else can play with their accounting all they want. However, the truth is there isn't enough money to bail out all EU members. Do the EU and IMF seriously believe that Obama will allow the Fed to endlessly pay for their bailouts? This close to an election?
In the States, Obama's talking about housing relief for homeowners who are underwater on their mortgages. Meanwhile, millions say why should I bail those people out? How then will he be taken seriously if Greece defaults and he goes in TV to say we have no choice but to bail them out?
How could he justify it?
We had no choice.
The entire global economy is at stake.
The protectionism will only get worse.
Surprised? Not a bit of it. Clegg would sell his own bowel movement for advancement.
And Danny Alexander the Great ran a fun fair. 'Are you laughing?'
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