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The government must engage with Muslim students

Islamic student societies are challenging extremism.

Prime Minister Cameron claimed in his Munich speech that not only had multiculturalism failed, but that certain parts of British society (Muslims mainly) had been divisive in their influence rather than integrating properly into the fabric of "British values", the lack of which leads to extremism and radicalisation, or so the cloudy logic goes.

The question of integration is particularly problematic. British Muslim communities are characterised by low educational attainment and poverty, yet many bright lights have broken barriers in contributing positively to British society. Take the example of Usman Ali, the first-ever Muslim Vice President of the National Union of Students (NUS) from the humble neighbourhood of Longsight in Manchester, an inspiring tale and, most encouragingly not an isolated example.

Bright lights aside, there is a need to promote this sort of aspiration and contribution on a wider scale and in light of this the national Muslim student body, the Federation of Student Islamic Societies (FOSIS), has sought to establish a British civic responsibility amongst British Muslim students. From artistic to political leadership events, inclusive of both Labour and Conservative representatives, we have arranged career events with city firms, technology giants, and media outlets - a good attempt in associating Muslim students to opportunities that make a beneficial difference to Britain.

This summer, FOSIS worked closely with the Civil Service in connecting its wider membership to the corridors of government,engaging with students in Cardiff. This is integration by exactly its narrowest definition; providing for aspiring young Muslims from difficult backgrounds with access to work for the betterment of the people of their country through political engagement.

However, just days ahead of another joint FOSIS-Civil Service careers engagement in London on Tuesday, the event was cancelled from the darker corners of government. As reported by former Tory MP Paul Goodman on ConservativeHome, this happened on account of the "fury" of the Home Secretary, Theresa May. He detailed two reasons for her reaction; FOSIS' "insufficient willingness to tackle extremism", and its support of a human rights campaign.

On the accusation of cultivating extremism by neglect, umentioned is any recognition of the consistent steps taken by FOSIS to engage with key stakeholders, including government, on the issue of radicalisation on campus, an example being the widely acclaimed conference organised by FOSIS on countering extremism, the first of its kind and graced by government, security experts and university leaders alike.Also on record is FOSIS' half-century of fostering engagement between Muslim students and students' unions, universities and students of other faiths; of supporting a spirit of discussion and dialogue and intellectual integrity within Muslim groups. The allegation isslanderous, implying as it does that FOSIS fosters and promotes extremist elements. The absence of evidence is deafening.

The Babar Ahmad issue is even more contentious. Here is a man, a citizen of this very land, held without charge for seven years in high security prisons on evidence deemed unworthy in British courts, fighting extradition to kangaroo courts in the US who will probably incarcerate him to Supermaxfacilities for the rest of his natural life. FOSIS, together with a host of British organisations, is simply supporting his right to due legal process, that he be tried in a court in this country. Indeed,"British values" signify social justice, to protect the rights of individuals and of society, and our very democracy in the hands of citizens gives the right to force the government, our elected representatives, to debate the extradition of this man in parliament.

The government continues to up its rhetoric on integration and extremism, making frivolous claims whilst laying the blame at the doorstep of FOSIS and other Muslims organizations, yet its deeds in policy formation and in cancelling events such as the above are counterproductive to any notion of integration. The Home Secretary's decision to ignore an invitation to meet Muslim students in June is also restatement to this. It is time the government stopped demagoguery and started engaging; organisations like our own and students at large will continue championing British contribution, with or without them.The disconnect between the political elite and its citizens continues apace.

Nabil Ahmed is the president of the Federation of Student Islamic Societies.

Tags: Islam

34 comments

S N's picture

I hope our current governments stubbornness doesn't discourage these young Muslims from pushing forward into places such as the civil service. Its the voice of an anti-extremist, passionate and educated young person, who understands the dangers in Britain's modern communities, that we are so destitute of.

Abdullah's picture

I am quite saddened by this. Muslim students clearly want to contribute and be a part of British society. I can't understand it when it is said there isnt enough integration; yet when positive steps are made for integration Theresa May cancels an amazing event... I really hope we can still continue to engage with the civil service. No doubt, I will be applying to work for the government regardless. I would love to be a part of making Britain a better place.

Flashbuck's picture

The guy who stuffed a bomb in his underpants and boarded a plane was a moslem student. Fact!

Flashbuck's picture

From this shabby blog: "The question of integration is particularly problematic."

What you talking about "integration" for? Integration is a two-way thing involving both sides shifting to accommodate each other. But the native British shouldn't have to shift to accommodate an alien culture & ideology. If we have to have Islam here in the UK then Moslems need to assimilate not integrate.

gerry's picture

FOSIS is an extremist umbrella group, whose goals are

1) To normalise Islamic extremism amongst Muslim students - burkas, beards, seeing the world 100% from an Islamic fundamemtalist viewpoint

2) To promote political Islam, esp its hatred of western style democracy, womens rights, equality in general and freedom of speech in particuler

3) To downplay Islamic radicalism and terrorism - Babar Ahmed is a self-avowed jihadi and extremist, and FOSIS has harboured that Nigerian underpants bomber, and three convicted jihadi terrorists, who were presidents of their Islamic societies!

Nabil - you have been rumbled! Everyone in Government knows your extremist agenda, and I am pleased that they have broken off all contact with your sick organisation...

swatantra nandanwar's picture

I'm just wondering how 'Life of Brian Mohammad' would go down.
They really must learn to lighten up.

Sara M's picture

You're right gerry, FOSIS does hate women and democracy. That's why they've used a democratic process to elect two female Vice-Presidents for the past two years. Clearly they haven't pulled the wool over your eyes!

Olijaan's picture

It's certainly disheartening seeing Muslim students' laudable efforts to engage and integrate being rebuffed by the government - a short-sighted stance to take indeed.

As for Babar Ahmad, he was arrested (sustaining a disturbing number of injuries) and a few days later released without charge. He was subsequently re-arrested as a result of an extradition request by the US, for which no evidence is required. He has since been languishing in prison in the UK for seven years, without any charges being made against him in this country. This Kafkaesque states of affairs should concern us all. To read more about his case, please click on the following link - and do consider signing the petition to have him tried here in the UK.
http://www.freebabarahmad.com/

A A's picture

Wow it seems that FOSIS is doing a better job at being analytical than the government. It's clear from comments by Flashbuck and gerry, that there are people who simply don't want to look at evidence and prefer biased notions upon which to base their decisions. I believe these types are referred to as trolls?

They're bashing FOSIS for alleged anti-women rights motions and extremism when clearly their VP is a democratically elected woman and they've been working with the government to try to understand the roots of extremism better. If educated UK muslims are like those in FOSIS who work based on evidence and with critical analytical minds, then truly the government does need the likes in order to improve this nation. Muslims, I salute you and look forward to working with you.

Sarah's picture

Its a shame that Theresa May cancelled an event that had been planned (with her knowledge) to take place in order for minorities,in this case the Muslim minority,to have greater access to the civil service . If the muslim students are so extreme,why not engage with them instead of actively declining offers to do so?and root out extremism that way? The stance taken on this issue only fuels the rhetoric of the real extremists who will use this to justify their twisted ideology. Unfortunately MP May has increased the problem not stopped it.

DoubleA's picture

This is an absolute disgrace. From all corners of the government, we hear the so called cry for Muslims to do more to engage with the citizens of this country. And yet when a well established organisation like FOSIS seeks to do just that, it has the door slammed in its face by the very hand welcoming it. MP May (as well as others who have commented here) would do well to remember the positive contribution Muslims students and non-students alike make to this country.

Fergus Pickering's picture

What is the positive contribution muslims make to this country? I seem to have missed it.

Sebastian's picture

How about 'Moslem student groups' ceasing their campaign of violence, intimidation, racism and religious bigotry against Jewish and Gay students? Colleges in Birmingham, Luton and east London are now no-go areas to Jews and Gays.

sven king's picture

The way this artcle is spun insinuates that Muslims students are the victims as they have at last been shown up for what they - racist bully boy thugs.

Of course Muslims are uneducated, the follow a backward system for living where females can never be free or reach there true potential - so that's half the population.

Why not talk about the threats and intimdation that Jewish students have to face from these people if they even declare themselves to be Jewish, or god forbid support Israel.

When Muslims are in a minority they love talking about how inclusive we all must be to accommodate them, but in a majority the rights of the infidels and kuffars are nowehere to be seen.

Z Black's picture

OKAY FIRSTLY LEARN TO SPELL IT'S MUSLIN ON MOSLEM.
Second I would try and argue against my fellow Caucasians but their illiteracy already proves my point. =_=' Sometimes I'm sad to live in a country of such bigots.

Flashbuck's picture

@Z Black

Are you a moslem? As for trying to argue with anyone, forget it, loser, you wouldn't stand a chance. Fact!

Mrs.Josephine Hyde-Hartley's picture

"The absence of evidence is deafening". Quite - even as loud as the sound of one hand clapping? Or perhaps in a more modern context - some expression of being "nudged"?

And where we read; ""British values" signify social justice, to protect the rights of individuals and of society, and our very democracy in the hands of citizens gives the right to force the government, our elected representatives, to debate the extradition of this man in parliament."

If I was after a fast track into the civil service I should think it better to keep things simple -say something like the Lord Chief Justice once said about justice -ie here in the UK justice is about human values.

Therefore and actually our very democracy doesn't force anybody ( elected, appointed or otherwise) to do anything without fully informed and properly obtained consent - though I read it's the in thing for the government and it's agencies to give us a nudge..whatever that means in practice can be anybody's guess, probably.

But here in the commons the ordinary member of the public can happily trust members of Parliament will kindly do what we ask of them without fear or favour, please. (this is actually because nobody has got a proper job description, I think.)

Thus said, our Home secretary has acted quite properly, I think. I should think it wise to heed what she has to say, if one wanted to get a job in the Civil service.

But apart from that I'm not sure what a debate in Parliament about a particular person's plight, however hapless, can achieve. Even so, it is undoubtedly a terrible situation if it's true our systems between them can effectively waste the lives of an ordinary member of the public in this frustrating manner -This is when we need a fast track to somewhere sensible, it seems to me.

dillon's picture

why does everybody has to butter up to muslims and give them special treatment all the time,,why dont they just bloody behave themselfes like the rest of soceity and stop being a pain in the butt...

gerry's picture

Sara M - yes, FOSIS has declared that all Muslims female students should wear either the veil or the niqab, and that from the VP! Lovely, and very tolerant (not)..

The truth is that FOSIS is by any definition an extremist group - just look closely at its aims, goals and methods..it is profoundly anti-democratic, homophobic, misogynist and pro-terror.

Thank heaven that everyone in Government has realised just how extreme FOSIS is...and I pray that the security services have got its members fully under surveillance and infiltrated.

Des Demona's picture

I would be equally distrustfull of a student body promoting any religious system.
I would hope that students were more enlightened than to believe in sky gods.

The sooner all this divisive nonesense is dispensed with the better.

LZ's picture

In response to Flashbucks comments about " 1 in 3 Muslim students agree that killing in the name of islam is justified FACT"

What about the Millions we have killed in the name of "Democracy" and spreading "freedom"??

Its people like you that allow these illegal wars to continue because you actually believe the propaganda put out in this country. Not only that, but you then go and re-gurgitate it all over the internet like a parrot!! FACT!! I doubt youve ever had an original thought such is the depth of your programming.

Des Demona's picture

Eeeek! I've just done a little research on FOSIS and they don't seem to be as Muslim-Lite as they would like to appear.
No surprise there I suppose.

Mohammed Amin's picture

The above article has a small but important factual error. David Cameron did not attack multiculturalism in his speech; he attacked something he calls "state-multiculturalism." Sadly many commentators fail to notice this point. I have covered it in more detail in my piece http://www.mohammedamin.com/Community_issues/Multiculturalism-v-state-mu...

gezr's picture

Nabil Ahmed when are you going to stop inviting extremist preachers onto university campuses and lying on national television?

Hmmm's picture

Lets stop talking about integration, lets talk about living together, acting together, contributing together, for the sake of our common future

Fraziel1's picture

@flashbuck and B small, could not agree more. I had my previous post deleted by NS.it seems they do not like anyone disagreeing with them these days.

This is Britain, and people coming here have to adapt and integrate to OUR way of life. Not the other way around. That means no sharia law ever and no pandering to anti women, anti gay, anti fun bigots that just happen to call themselves moslems.

If they do not like how we run things here they are very welcome to return to what is likely to be a somewhat civil liberties free country from whence they came. They will not do that of course as you are unlikely to get huge sums in benefits and free health treatment there.

I wonder if the governments of iran, saudi arabia, bahrain,Kuwait etc engage with christian students there? I wonder how the Italian , or french governments engage with Moslem students?

Hmmm's picture

What the Muslims should do is to refuse the victim mentality, its not the question to be liked or not to be liked, its a question of rights, its a question of understanding, its a question of self-respect

Abdullah's picture

WOW I am absolutely loving this. It seems that there are some who love to spout out rhetoric about British Muslims not assimilating or integrating enough, yet when efforts are made to work for the government and Her Majesty's Civil Service *SUDDENLY* it's just all too much for those that cannot stand the mere thought of a 'Moslem' being 'buttered' up by way of allowing them to contribute to government... Confused is an understatement!

Abdullah's picture

Dillon - Can you honestly say that an event with the Civil Service Fast Stream,full of aspiring Muslims wanting to work for Her Majesty, is 'buttering' up to Muslims? :S What part of Muslim students would love to work for Her Majesty's Civil Service is a problem for you? Clearly, with the cancellation of such an event Muslims students want to know why (it is only natural - after all, so much has been said about the lack of Muslims contributing to society).

swatantra nandanwar's picture

I'm afraid they are. The ball is in their court. A bit more overt challenging of extremists in their midst is necessary.
I would pose the question as: 'Muslim students need to engage with the rest of us, and the world?'

Sara M's picture

I think the point is that Muslim students are already trying to engage, yet the government, in all its political buffoonery, seems intent on shutting them out. Another misstep by the Coalition.

Z M's picture

They say they want Muslims students to engage, but behind the curtains and quite blatantly here, they clearly do not want to allow that. This is a clear attack on Muslim Students!

José's picture

Can't wait to see how neocons try to justify this. If I have this right:
1) British Muslims considered by some to be self-ghettoising, benefits-scrounging, 'other'-loathing oxygen thieves
2) Muslim organisation with robust democratic procedures attempts to hold access event to encourage the next generation of Muslims and Muslim leaders to work in the civil service.
3) Home secretary thinks this is a bad idea
4) Neocons see the name 'Ahmad' and think "terrorist sympathisers".
5) Actions in 3 and 4 are not evidence-based, but that's ok because evidence-based opinions are exclusively for lawyers and judges?? Because a hunch is enough? Because neocon lobbyists who subvert democracy and the rule of law are going to be viewed positively in history? Because 'they're Muslim'?

*popcorn at hand*

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