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Stuart, I was joking ...having lived near some in Warrington back in the 80s I'm really pleased that I'm not living anywhere near Dale farm. What I've noticed is that you don't get any pictures of the men.
I'm interested in your experience of the real gypsies Stuart. Do you go and have tea in the caravans?
Daniele: Not much support for these Irish immigrants 'sorry' travellers!! They pay little or no tax, but expect and often demand social services and contribute nothing to the local communities they invade, and often leave an appalling mass behind for others to clean-up, along with a substantial legal bill for local 'cash-strapped' council in pay. I wonder if you would be so concerned if these Irish travellers happened to be Jewish?
I agree, if the New Statesman dont muzzle their racist dogs then legal action might be the way
4 miles...have you ever considered that when/if dale farm is dispersed that you might have Travellers a lot closer than 4 miles...still happy? This was cheap land because it was a scrap yard...
Daniele. Go on answer Greg... Or do you think Greg maybe Jewish?
This is the relevant extract from the recent EHRC report Inequalities experienced by Gypsy and Traveller Communities: "Over 90 per cent of
planning applications for private (usually self- or family-owned) Gypsy sites are refused at first hearing, often following orchestrated campaigns by aggrieved (sedentary) local residents, though permission is overwhelmingly granted on appeal
(CRE, 2006a; Williams, 1999)."
So its not because the land is on green belt, its because local racist residents put pressure on the local authority to refuse permission, which is why the majority of cases win on appeal. Which is the whole point of this timely article - localism can be very bad news for minorities; an argument bolstered by many of the comments made, here trotting out negative racial stereotypes about Irish travellers. BTW Basildon Council, where Dale Farm is based, has allowed a golf course on green belt land.
I know how the travellers feel when your face dont fit and the council want you out of your home, i own my home but if i insist on applying for a damp grant i will be evicted as wdc never have funds for grants and i have never been allowed to apply for one,its blackmail really because if i do apply wavenery district council will evict me and i will be made homeless so it just shows how they use the rules to suit themselves and prefer to evict someone rethar than spend any money to help people.
Only one of Rob's family now lives in caravan which is in a legal stand, Yes he also pays all his taxes and NI as well !
As for the travellers, when the police raided a massive illegal near Swindon they cut crime for a while by I think it was 25-30%. I pity the people who live around Dale farm as well.
My biggest objection would be the building WITHOUT PLANNING PERMISSION. If a local council gives permission to build on green belt then that's their prerogative. If the locals don't like it then they'll get voted out next time.
What riles me is the fact that I had to get planning permission for a conservatory in MY back garden but this lot are using emotional blackmail and threatening violence because stuff they built against the law is going to be pulled down.
Break the law - live with the consequences. Simples
PS. Why are there so many sites supporting the protest against eviction and none supporting the eviction?