One rule for the rich....Perhaps the riots were not well organised enough. It is a shame the rioters were so indoctrinated with consumerism so as not to form the popular uprising we need to DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE about this hypocritical, dangerous government

i was knackerd , not clear last night.
the rich and poerful make rules so that when they are broken, most of the time people feel some guilt- persistent guilt generates self esteem issues and thus subjugation is partially completed
the kids had no guilt- that was scary

Not sure what happened to my comment from earlier, but I have to say that Cameron is guilty of utter hypocrisy. He talks of moral collapse, but wasn't thinking of this when he was claiming for his wisteria to be cleared at our expense. He is hardly on the moral high ground.

There is a world of difference between idiotic students pushing the bounderies and lawless thugs who will probably spend their entire lives behaving a certain way.
What is your issue with Camerons education so what he went to Eton and Oxford, you may have not noticed but most of the shadow cabernet are members of the middle-class oxford educated elite,Ed milibands wife is even best friends with George Osbornes wife, at least David Cameron likes his voters i am sure Ed Miliband just holds his nose!

For rioting paupers: Water cannons, "tough love", eviction from council houses, having benefits cut and naming and shaming and utterly long jail sentences for smashing, trashing and stealing a few things which they will never have the chance of legally buying because they will never have a chance of getting a job to earn some money.

For the rich and or aristocratic Bullingdon club members (today's MPs and the PM): no police intervention and not even a night spent in jail let alone a suit filed against them nor any "tough love" although they smashed up restaurants etc. without having any reason to this because they have the money to buy nearly anything they desire. The Bullingdon continues to exist and they continue their hooliganism but because they are rich and well-connected and often aristocratic they do not get bothered by the force of the law nor by anybody else.

One rule for the rich and another one for the paupers.
What worries many people is that Cameron doesn't really do anything to tackle the problem by its root: lack of education and lacking chances of ever finding regular employment of the rioting paupers. Cameron doesn't even pretend to try to solve this problem.

The hypocrisy as far as I am concerned is in the motives. I agree that knowing you will pay for the damage does make a difference.
But surely the whole point of being in the Bullingdon club was the thrill and excitement. The same reason that many of those kids came out to riots. Poor people can't afford to pay for the damage they cause when they do similar acts.

To talk about a moral collapse is preposterous, Cameron was in the Bullingdon club for the same reason that those kids were in the streets. Many people always have the desire to riot whether that is in the Bullingdon club or in Clapham Foot Locker.

Riots have happened throughout history and throughout classes, there have been right wing riots, left wing riots, poor riots and even rich riots and lets not forget the Arab spring started with many riots which were, in fact moralistic.

so Louise let me ask you a question-
We hired a youngster last year- proper tearaway in his youth, never physically hurting but shoplifting, drugs etcetc. It was on record and he told us before we did checks- we hired him cos he's clearly a different person now, he really has changed and is one of the most trustworthy people I know (I really mean this), and he's a grafter . He's admitted there's stuff he got away with- should we get rid of him now that he's older and seen the error of his earlier ways? Somehow it dosen't feel right to do so.

"We all do stupid things when we're young"

Speak for yourself. I was a very mature, law abiding, and balanced young man.

New Labour followed the neoliberal Thatcherite agenda, Mr Posh likewise. This is what happens when you take the cult of selfishnes to it's natural conclusion.

Yes some of the sentences were
disproportionate,I never said everyone did this type of thing a lot, some were obviously caught up in the violence but that had nothing to do with class, the judge probably felt he had a point to prove , the same thing happened earlier this year when a young Oxford student was sent to prison- He did not do anything that was particulary horrendous!
There is also a difference between hi-jinks and the type of career criminality we saw, there are some people who have respect for nothing even human lives, they show no remorse, they believe they are above the Law,and they think they can continue living this life without taking any responsibility even now people are saying it is not their Fault. yes if certain people wish not to decent members of their communities why should they be treated like the people who are.

"some people who have respect for nothing even human lives, they show no remorse, they believe they are above the Law,and they think they can continue living this life without taking any responsibility"

That's the political class for you.

I've never been scared by drunks trashing a restaurant.
During the riots i was concerned for my families safety- not worried cos i don't live near shops- then the next day I found out a friend's neighbour had her house broken into- the old lady there was scared, and my friend was.
Rules always get abused by rich and powerful, it's why they make them, to be 'naughty'. I thought the riots were a bit more than naughty though

George

I SALUTE YOU MR. EATON, ON THIS PARTICULAR ARTICLE.

The answer is really very simple : There is one Rule/Law for them and another for the lower classes and nothing has changed.

We had The Bullingdon Club days where those involved conveniently escaped the law.

We had the expenses scandal that involved MP's/Politicians from all Parties. Most got away with it by using the usual clever legal Loopholes of : Mistake, Administration Error, Administration Error by colleagues, Oversight and the list goes on and on and on.

Then you have all the MP's/Politicians that have not paid their fair share of taxes and again use all the usual legal loopholes.

Then you have many MP's/Politicians that are still in Public Office after the expenses Scandal. If you or me had of fiddled our compamies expenses we would have lost our jobs at the least but most would have been arrested and been before a court. In addition to this we would have received a criminal record and would probably not been able to get another job. MP's and Politicians (Most Off) only had to say sorry and pay it back. One Rule/Law for them and another for the lower classes because we would have been severly punished with life long problems.

The Many Lies for gain : During the Electoral Campaign David Cameron said on the Final Telvised Electoral Debate Live that a Country/Government is judged upon how it cares fo it's most vulnerable in society in good times as well as bad times. He then went onto say that if you are Sick, Disabled, Frail, Vulnerable or the " POOREST " in society you have nothing to FEAR if he (David Cameron) becomes Prime-Minister because he would protect that group of people in society.

That is one of the many Bare-Faced despicable Evil lies that Cameron told us to gain votes including using the most vulnerable in British Society to try and appear caring and compassionate to gain votes but as soon as he became prime-minister made them number one target.

No intention of raising VAT was another lie. Also they always had a secret agenda to break up and privatize the National Health Service but told the Entire Nation during the election campaign that they promise to financially ring fence the NHS and protect it. These are just a few of the desicable lies that came out of Cameron's mouth to gain votes. We have all been conned and taken for a ride.

If you or me lied on that scale to our employer we would have more than likely lost our jobs and found that we could not get another on the grounds of dihonesty. Again one Rule/Law for the MP's/Politicians and another for the lower classes.

Then you have the News of The World Scandal involving Andy Culson and Brooks that are very close/good friends of David Cameron. David Cameron even gave Andy Culson a Top Job in Downing Street that required the upmost trust even though he knew that Andy Culson was involved in crime. Cameron was also given many warnings that to employ his friend Culson was a serious mistake. Later two senior Police Officers resigned over the Scandal.

So it would appear that The Bullingdon Club Members were very naughty boys all those years ago and nothing has really changed, only that they are now in the BIG league running this country.

One Foot note to all this regarding The Bullingdon Club Members is that Conservative Member now Mayor for London Boris Johnson was fired by another Conservative Member for telling lies. I understand that he has also been sacked on another occasion for telling lies.

This Government's foundations are built on deceit and lies. No wonder Cameron was getting uncomfortable because the puzzle is becoming clearer to see.