Boris: we don't need water cannon and rubber bullets
"Common sense, traditional" British policing worked during the riots, says the Mayor.
By George Eaton Published 06 September 2011 12:26
Boris Johnson has been giving evidence on the riots to the home affairs select committee for the last half hour, and already there have been several noteworthy moments. The Mayor of London announced that the new head of the Metropolitan police would be named on Monday (you can read an interview with one of the frontrunners, Sir Hugh Orde, here) and said that he "regretted" the fact that Paul Stephenson had to resign as commissioner.
There was an uncomfortable moment when Keith Vaz, the Labour chair of the committee, asked Boris why it took him so long to return from his holiday in Canada. The Mayor explained that he was "stuck in the Rocky Mountains with a camper van" but returned as soon as it became clear that events were not "dying down". Vaz mischievously noted that he landed on British soil "after the Home Secretary but before the Prime Minister", to which Boris replied: "that may well be the case".
Johnson was also asked whether he agreed with calls from some MPs for water cannon and rubber bullets to be deployed in the future (polls showed that 90 per cent of the public supported the use of the former). He replied that the police were able to contain serious disturbances with "robust, common sense, traditional British policing" and that this should be regarded as a great achievement. Significantly, he added that he was not being lobbied by the police "for a greater panoply of weapons". It looks like the 33 per cent of the public who wanted the police to shoot the rioters with live ammunition will remain disappointed.
Boris suggested that what the police needed was greater support from society but, perhaps surprisingly, did not use this as an opportunity to polemicise against the coalition's police cuts. Finally, asked how much the riots cost the Met, Johnson gave a figure of £35.5m before agreeing with Vaz that the cost rises to £74m if you include the "opportunity costs" (those on riot duty were not available for other work). The Treasury, he suggested, will pick up the tab in full.
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12 comments
The Rubber Bullets have always been very close to hand, it only requires authorisation.
Perhaps Just Boris would be happy with a few catapaults and peashooters.
Bodva, true, so what's your point, that the Police should have used rubber bullets?
anton jury But police chiefs have always been to scared to use rubber bullets through fear that politicans will criticise them for being to robust,
Though he's generally a useless person, at least Boris has here resisted the right's call to hang everyone/riddle them with ammunition.
If they've been used in NI then here's no reason they can't be used here. We need an simulated exercise carried out in London as to the logistic problems posed by narrow streets and barricades, so hat these difficulties can be ironed out.
It'll be a good way of showing also that if they need to be used, they will be used.
the police were able to contain serious disturbances with "robust, common sense, traditional British policing"
Wrong on two counts.
1. "Serious disturbances" were not contained: they spread all over England. In London 22 of the 32 boroughs were affected.
2. The police used neither "traditional British policing" methods nor "robust, common sense"
Instead they used the tactics that have been developed over the last thirty years for breaking strikes and contained political demonstrations. These did not work on looters.
Would have been nice to have the the kit on standby, you never know how daring people will become. It's not always about using them but it's also about havingthe deterant and the guts to say 'yes we have them and we'll use them so prepare to get hurt'
@swatantra - the point is not to have London like NI.
Too late or that.
@swatantra - the point is, it is not too late to have rubber bullets etc. in London.