So ,Flashbuck, English Electric and 'The Luddite' must all work for the Mail. Who else would sound so angry in defense of a mere paper.

Flashbuck: there was a great piece about UFOs I notice! 'real facts' (as if there were any others). Not to mention the horoscopes.

Maybe the Mail is doing well, but I heard recently on Radio4 that the Guardian think the future is in compact and in-depth journalism, perhaps not daily, as people look to the net for news and comment. Sounds like our old friend the NS.

Interesting time ahead.

A formal complaint to the Press Commission is in order. And lets have a hefty fine and an apology from these papers. They are a disgrace, whipping up unnecessary hysteria and are the stormtroopers of the EDL.

Hello 1% how's dolly? fingers hurting.

Barny!!
We are right to be worried about the rise of immigration at a time of high unemployment and falling real wages.
Then people feel abandoned by Labour who do they turn?. Not to the far-left!! Somebody said 'the days of calling voters racist and Nazis won't wash anymore' both parties had better have some really good answers ready. This issue will not go away, and will be used to devastating effect against Labour. Because we all know who's to blame for turning our cities into third world war zones..

swatantra

"whipping up unnecessary hysteria"

Why would you think that they are 'whipping up hysteria'? Surely everyone should be delighted with a twenty percent increase in immigration. Surely everyone can see what a benefit it is to half a million new arrivals a year. Maybe 20 million a year would be even better. I have to say though for someone concerned about hysteria you do seem a little worked up youself.

David. That's just swatantra nandanwar she/he can at times become quite hysterical. Swatantra is also quite the rabid anti semite!!
David, there's nothing wrong with immigration, it's the quality and quantity that's the concern, and people have a right to be concerned, but needless to say you will be called a racist, it's the lefts only defence...

You will not get the labour party worthies standing up to racism. Just like Callaghan in 1968, they will bend over backwards to appease the racists.The problem , it appears is that there are far fewer jobs offering tax-free earnings in the English Country Club, otherwise known as the Gulf States. Thus that is one avenue closed for economic immigrants from the UK.Any serious examination of the figures will show that the current figures for immigration are no higher that for 2004 but that the number of people leaving for their years in Provence and the UK Outpost for home-grown criminals and fugitives in Spain have diminished.There would be howls and screams from the crowd here if other countries exported the same numbers of their criminal fraternity to the UK as we do to Spain. But why let the facts bother us when there is the Daily Mail shouting 'Hurrah for the Blackshirts' once again, just like they stood shoulder to shoulder with the Mosley and fascists in the 1930's.Nothing changes much,does it. Time for a Prediction.Pretty soon, Tory fears will be realised and Miliband and his merry crew will lay into immigrants and Ethnic minorities and outflank the Tories from the Right.The BNP will once allege (correctly) that Labour has seen the error of its ways.And very few Black and Asian MP's will speak out against it.Depressing -yes.You certainly cannot rely on Labour to defend the weak, the poor and the disenfranchised, especially if they are immigrants.

Labour's failure to build local authority housing to compensate for council houses that have been sold off under the tories, led to a fall of about half a million in the number of social homes available between 1997 and 2007. This, combined with high levels of immigration, has led to an increase of nearly 60% in the waiting lists for social housing England over the last eight years. The most severely affected were London where the proportion of households on the waiting list in 2010 was 12% and Yorkshire and Humberside where it was 11%. Both are regions of high immigration. Mass-Immigration beings nothing, but social problems to stable societies.

I was going to join the debate but then read the name calling hysterical stupidity from both sides and thought no it's Saturday! Get a life all you losers on this post!

p j wall

I don't think you're really in the best position to be throwing around accusations of bigotry. Here is a short article from the Daily Mash, explaining it in a more amusing way than I could, if you can't see what I mean

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/word-%27bigot%27-loses-all-me...

It's a bit simplistic, isn't it? Nasty right wing papers stirring up hatred, whereas supposedly nicer more lefty outlets just got it wrong. They all got it wrong, but are Indy journos so witless and/or rushed that they couldn't spend 10 minutes checking the Stats? Sure, the Mail/Express have a long history of telling tall stories about immigration - but it is perhaps because their editors are convinced that's what their lower-middle class readership want to hear? And is the they're convinced down to the fact they know their readers too well?

Luddite's just discovered swearing. In a few months he'll be sprouting his first pubic hair.

Luddite;...Finally showing your true colours?, touched a nerve?, your reaction speaks for itself, your hate towards the ethnic minorities is shameful!, along with some of your other right wing attention seekers on here who rant hatred and venom!!, your reaction proves what i stated earlier, Cowards behind your computers!, you need to relax, seek professional help, you cant keep reacting like a petulant child who doesn`t get their own way!!, us grown ups are allowed opinions!!, Diddums, Diddums,.

p j wall

Yet another angry ranting post complaining about angry ranting.

"us grown ups are allowed opinions"

I'm not a fan of swearing on forums but no one has attacked your right to express an opinion. You have been the one constantly ranting at those you disagree with.

"you need to relax"

You need to take your own advice.

All those exclamation marks, going on about 'spewing' and 'ranting' and 'Daily Heil'. You do very much coming across as an example of an all to common type, the hateful bigoted left winger - constanting looking for things to be worked up and angry about.

The elephant in the room:

HOW HAS MASS IMMIGRATION BENEFITTED THE WHITE WORKING CLASSES?

(Direct answers will be appreciated!)

Why not someone from public take these socalled newspaper to court for misleading innocent people?These type of papers should be banned just like news of the world which mislead people over 100 years.

p j wall
It's reactionary left-wing lunatics such as yourself that's giving socialism a bad name. To many are chasing to few jobs, and we don't help the unemployed by importing large numbers of low and unskilled workers, into an already depressed Labour markets. Millions of our young people, black, brown, and white are without employment because of the previous Labour government disastrous immigration policy.

Simmon. You don't have to state the bleeding obvious, we all know the extreme left hates a free press.

A. Cole (Direct answers will be appreciated!) The only people that have benefited from Labour's catastrophic social engineering experiment are exploitative employers, the biggest losers Labour's traditional supporters, that's why Labour sits in opposition and will stay in opposition.

So, now that cat is out of the bag. Why ask only about the white working class? Your EDL/BNP/Anders Brevik fifth column colours are showing.
So what is wrong for Black and Asian workers having:
1)their wives come and live with them, I am sure you would not deny that right to white workers.
2) Have their children live with them.
There is nothing wrong with family reunion.
Let Labour drift to the Right on this.
Let Balls have the Second Iraq moment when 100,000's of thousands deserted Labour.
The Asians and Black voters should walk away from Labour in their thousands and let them have another 20 years in opposition.

Many social ills spring from mass-immigration. The housing crisis is a direct consequence of the impact of immigration on the availability of social housing for working class Britains for far to long they have been airbrushed out there needs over looked or ignored. Either the government must cut immigration very substantially as they have promised or they must invest very large sums in the construction of extra social housing. Non EU migrants are more likely to live in social housing than UK born. For some nationalities the difference was striking:- Nigeria (29%), Iran (33%), Jamaica (35%), Ghana (39%), Portugal (40%), Bangladesh (41%), Turkey (49%), Somalia (80%) compared to UK born for whom the proportion was only 17%. This appalling injustice must not be allowed to continue.

El Ferhano 'falsifying of facts' hypocrisy!! We have generations of families HERE in the UK who have never worked a day in their lives. Ask yourself WHY!! 'paying taxes and contributing to the system' Many immigrantS pay little or no tax and contributed very little. my opinion is that if we want to stop people coming into our country, then maybe we should pack up our forces and get out of theirs! We, the Brits started it, as silly as that may sound. It does sound silly, did we go into the Sudan, Nigeria, Turkey, Somalia, Ghana. No El Ferhano we didn't.. 'who are the majority' OK lets give the British people a referendum on immigrations and let's see what the majority say.. AGREE!!

The last comment has all the dignity and grace of a petulant thug!!, if you don`t like others opinions, just ignore them, no need for your constant vile abuse?, it`s left to others to judge what you clearly are?.

Have you seen the Mail's website? Far from giving 'the big picture' it almost soley focusses on American news and celebrity gossip.

So right-wing papers 'lie', and left-wing papers are mistaken because of 'ignorance'.

Bit desperate George.

shaheed 79. What the fuck have you got against Eastern Europeans you racist bigoted bastard...

Yet again they are caught in the act.They whip up racism and anti-immigrant hysteria. They are despicable.The NOWT saga showed how they were able to coerce the leading politicians through outright blackmail and threats.The right wing press and strident journalists have had a stranglehold in this country for too long.You will never convince the racists and the EDL trolls who appear to imagine that they have won the argument on immigration, but I for one am really glad that you are able to stand up and say it aloud- they are twisting the facts and spewing out blatant distortions.Thanks.