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Did Brooks mislead parliament over payments to Coulson?

Rebekah Brooks said it was "incorrect" to claim that News International subsidised Coulson's wages after he left.

To New Statesman readers, reports that Andy Coulson received several hundred thousand pounds from News International after he was hired by David Cameron should come as no surprise. In July, Kevin Maguire wrote in the NS:

The things you hear muttered in parliament . . . Could News International really have subsidised Andy Coulson's wages while he worked for David Cameron? I'd dismiss it out of hand but, then again, I'd never have believed that people would delete Milly Dowler's voicemail so more messages could be eavesdropped.

The story was picked up by Liberal Democrat MP Adrian Sanders, who interrogated James Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks on the subject during last month's select committee hearings. While Murdoch merely said he had "no knowledge" of Coulson's wages after he left News International, Brooks went further and declared that the claim was "incorrect".

Here's the exchange with Murdoch:

Q268 Mr Sanders: The New Statesman carried a story last week that News International subsidised Andy Coulson's wages after he left your employ. Can you shed any light on that?

James Murdoch: I have no knowledge of Andy Coulson's wages after he left the company's employment.

And here's the exchange with Brooks:

Q574 Mr Sanders: Did you approve the subsidising of Andy Coulson's salary after he left News of the World?

Rebekah Brooks: Again, that's not true, so I didn't approve it.

Q575 Mr Sanders: So the New Statesman report, like the Daily Mail report, is inaccurate? His salary is not being subsidised by News International.

Rebekah Brooks: That is correct. They are incorrect.

Both should now be recalled to explain their answers. If the Coulson reports are true, Brooks may stand accused of misleading Parliament. Much, one suspects, will hinge on the definition of "subsidising". But it's worth noting, as Tom Watson has, that Coulson told the select committee in 2009 that he didn't receive a penny from News International after he started working for the Conservatives.

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21 comments

Gwyn Williams's picture

Awake. You seem to believe that this heralds some earth shattering change that will end the monopoly of power, wealth and influence by a small priveliged elite and give the majority access to the same. I hope very much you are right, but I doubt it. They (the elite) have too much clout, and time is on their side. Already, the fall of Ghaddafi is swinging attention away from Mudoch/Coulson/Wade, the riots, the thieving bankers and MPs, etc. They´ll bury it all in the end, and the UK publics´attention span is not that long. Englands´cricket XI is the best on the planet and Cameron was there at the Oval talking to another public schoolboy, Aggers: what a world!.

Freeman2's picture

Leon writes, 'Settlements on resignation are quite common in all sectors of business and even the public sector.'

Which name do you post under on the Guardian's CiF? Or is there a team of you writing almost word for word on different sites?

Arthur O'Connor's picture

The reference to DSK's career - he isn't innocent. He still faces rape charges in France.

Ray's picture

He is innocent. He has not been found guilty following trial on the charges.

Willp's picture

Cameron hired Coulson, who started to work for the Tories in July 2007 at a reported salary of £275,000. News International was still paying him. Yet when Tom Watson asked Coulson, "So your sole income was News International and then your sole income was the Conservative party?" he replied, 'Yes'.
Looks like he was lying.
A greedy liar - no wonder he fitted
in well at Westminster.

John's picture

@mcquade

Frankly, no I can't be bothered to look it up.

You don't get blogs and comments, do you? You aren't supposed to have to refer back to encyclopedia to make your post. It's about quick and free comment.

I later clarified that I meant there was no transcript published in the article, as there was for the other exchanges referred to.

John's picture

Thanks Coffee Time, I should have said that there was no transcript provided in the article (as there was for other exchanges referred to).

I'm still not convinced that the transcript you provided backs up the assertion in the article that "Coulson told the select committee that he didn't receive a penny from NI after he started working for the Tories". He stated clearly he got what he was contractually entitled to. To equate these contractual entitlements to a subsidy for his work for the Conservatives over eggs the pudding.

Awake!'s picture

@ coffetime
"And was Cameron DUPED or is he IMPLICATED . Either way ,a resigning issue for most ministers ,wouldn't you say ?"
u think this is a resignation issue? If you apply that logic NOTHING works anymore- You can't actually believe that? there's an opportunity to 'blow the bloody doors off' right now, then u litter the site with that... Don't you get it? The wind is changing- the media, the politicians, the bankers, (next will be the judiciary and the police), all exposed, and rather than contribute you rock up with an idea thats bollox-just slipped out of your head, anti Cameron, just put it out there.. There is so much on the line, this is a special time, financially as well... and u reckon that's a resignation? and i'm not being relativist either, you've just TOTALLY failed to grasp the pertinence...

swatantra nandanwar's picture

Leave the woman alone.
Sometimes wild rumours and accusations can damage promisng careers, just like DSK's. And no amount of apologies can put things back as they were.

madasbalooons's picture

Is Brooks still getting paid?

Porphyro's picture

Coulson is probably literally correct in saying he didn't "receive a penny" from News International after he resigned . There's a world of difference between "a penny" and several hundred thousand pounds, though. That kind of distinction seems to have been used as a trademark tool of evasion by NI spokespersons during the whole murky business. Yet, astonsishly, some people - like JohnP above -continue to make light of it.

Porphyro's picture

Just for the record, I can spell 'astonishingly" when I put my mind and my digits to it!

John's picture

To claim that Coulson's Tory wages were 'subsidised' by NI is wrong on this evidence. To back up that claim, there would have to be evidence that the payments made to Coulson were in recognition of his work for the Tories. It sounds like this is severance pay and would have been received by Coulson irrespective of what work, if any, he went into after NOTW.

If Coulson did incorrectly tell the committee that he had received no payment from NI after he started work for the Tories, then he's in hot water, but there's no transcript of that exchange so I reserve judgment. Surely what matters is whether Coulson continued to act for NI after starting to work for Cameron. Exactly when his severance package (agreed at the time of his departure for work already completed) was paid is irrelevant, surely?

coffeetime's picture

John at 15.01 may be wrong to assert that there is no transcript of the exchange between Coulson and the Select Committee in 2009 . The following appears in the Guardian today ......

Coulson I actually resigned two weeks before I announced it ( his resignation ).

Tom Watson Two weeks before. And did you get a redundancy payment for that?

Coulson I got what was contractually due to me. Obviously I did not work my notice so I received what was contractually due.

Tom Watson Then you were six months out of work.

Coulson About five months.

Tom Watson And then you went to work directly for the Conservative party.

Coulson That is right.

Tom Watson And you have not got any secondary income other than that have you?

Coulson No.

Watson So your sole income was News International and then your sole income was the Conservative party?

Coulson Yes.

Tom Watson: That is great, thank you

At that time he was STILL receiving Private Health Benefits and a Company Car from NI . Why didn't he mention that . What were they all hiding ?

And was Cameron DUPED or is he IMPLICATED . Either way ,a resigning issue for most ministers ,wouldn't you say ?

Marcus Bessner's picture

DSK is as guilty as hell Ray. The scientific evidence bears his accuser out and his track record is sufficient evidence which should have ben weighed equally with defects of accuser's character. He faces rape charges in France and happily is out of French politics for good.

Amelia's picture

Rebekah Brooks in phone-hacking movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1STB82_q8Q4

Porphyro's picture

Awake! (or so you would have us believe), that's an extravagantly elaborate and dyspeptic way of saying '@ coffetime, I don't agree with you'. What would be more persuasive would be for you to present a reasoned argument to show why you disagree rather than resort to that sort of nonsense.

Leon's picture

This is just hysteria. Coulson resigned and agreed a package. Why he resigned and whether he has committed an offence is a separate issue. Settlements on resignation are quite common in all sectors of business and even the public sector. The package in this case seems to consist of a staggering large sum in cash payable by instalments, use of a car and medical insurance cover for a period of time. This is normal stuff and will have been agreed before he joined the Tories in all probability. Any new employer would not normally ask if the new member of staff was receiving money from their previous employer, they would get them to sign a contract of employment that prevented them from working for any other employer. Again standard contract. This is only an issue if payments to Coulson were agreed after he joined the Tories and were not part of his contractual entitlement.Otherwise all that's new is that he got a big pay-off and the Tories didn't know.

Willp's picture

John wrote, "If Coulson did incorrectly tell the committee that he had received no payment from NI after he started work for the Tories, then he's in hot water."
True.
Tom Watson asked Coulson, "So your sole income was News International and then your sole income was the Conservative party?"
He replied, 'Yes'. If the Tories were paying him from the start, then Coulson was lying.
The Tories could and should have discovered whether he was receiving money still from NI.
It's still the case that Cameron showed bad judgement in hiring Coulson - Mrs Cameron didn't trust Coulson, and told her husband that hiring him would be a mistake. She was right; the PM was wrong.

mcquade's picture

"but there's no transcript of that exchange so I reserve judgment."

Yes there is, in the Hansard, if you can be bothered to look it up.

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