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Forget Bollywood or cricket, what does it really mean to be Indian?

What Britain can learn from the subcontinent about multiculturalism.

David Cameron and Nathan Glazer could very well be the best of friends.

In 1997, Glazer, an American sociologist, published his seminal work, We Are All Multiculturalists Now, a testament to the dominance of the multiculturalism ethic in public schools in the United States. He expressed his immense dissatisfaction with multiculturalism and how it has prevented African-Americans from fully integrating into a society, where 'assimilation' has become a dirty word.

In February this year at a conference in Munich, Cameron spoke of the dangers of Islamist extremism in the domestic context. In his opinion, "the process of radicalisation" of British Muslims was essentially a crisis of identity as a result of the steady attrition of British character. "Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism we have encouraged different cultures to live separate lives," said Cameron. " We have even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run completely counter to our British values."

It was only a matter of time before Cameron began to develop his "being British" narrative and asserted Britishness as the uniform national identity for all people living in the UK. After all, the repudiation of Britain's laissez-faire multiculturalism -- the notion that a multiplicity of ethnicities, religious and cultural groups can exist in peaceful separation in society -- is so rife these days as to be platitudinous.

Since the late 1980s, following the fatwa against Salman Rushdie for his novel "The Satanic Verses," the multiculturalism model has been in flux, only made worse by 9/11 and the 2005 London bombings.

But the debate about multiculturalism and national identity is not confined to Britain alone. In India too, the question about what it means to be Indian is a subject of great national consternation.

At a party in Mumbai recently I asked a few of the guests (read: educated elite) what was India's 21st Century version of the "American Dream"?

The answers I received were rather unsettling:

Me: So really, what's the quintessential quality that defines being an Indian today?
Guest 1: Er.... you know, I think cricket unites everybody. Yes that's it! (Beaming) We Indians love our cricket.
Me: Um. I was thinking something slightly more intangible?
Guest 2: Well dear, it really is all about Bollywood. Being Indian is Bollywood, that's who we are. All Indians are united by their common love of Bollywood.
Me: Isn't Bollywood really only one form of Indian cinema?
Guest 3: Bloody hell! They're all morons, its none of this Bollywood-Shollywood nonsense, we are Indians because we are not Pakistanis!

You get the general drift.

I would argue however, that being Indian is indeed a very identifiable thing. And there are lessons here for Britain too. Wander about the streets of Mumbai or Delhi and you will be struck by the monumental remnants of each city's pluralistic, polyglot past. For India is a nation consumed by the many; the Turks, Persians, Mongols and indeed the British are all testament to a pervasive and historical migration process in the sub-continent, each of which has left an indelible mark on what is supposedly an Indian cultural composite.

The Indian state, as imagined under the Nehruvian ideal, was to be a pluralistic one, where there were to be no agreements between different communities except on the methodologies that determined how to disagree. Nor was there to be any separation between religion and the state, instead, the state would maintain a respectful and "equal distance" from all religions.

Unlike European liberal frameworks, the Indian Constitution gives autonomy to both the individual as well as communities, thereby providing diverse cultural groups equal treatment under the law and avoiding excessive state interference.Thus India, it seemed, was destined to be defined by the sum of its parts rather than the whole of its aspirations.

Cut to the 21st century. The Indian nation-state stands as an impressive example of successful multiculturalism. There is no such thing as the conventional Indian.

As a Hindu, I represent the religious majority in my country but under our constitution we are a secular state with representation of almost every religion known to man. I cannot even lay claim to a commonality amongst my Hindu brethren, for we are segregated by caste, and we do not practice Hinduism, a philosophy more than a religion, in the same manner.

Hindi, the national language, is spoken by only a fraction of the population (a peculiarity most keenly evinced by the election of our former Prime Minister, HD Deve Gowda in 1996, who spoke not a jot of Hindi).

Instead India is characterised by a multitude of local and regional languages; 29 of them are spoken by more than a million native speakers. We are ethnically dissimilar and geographically divided, which is why the Indian statesman, Shashi Tharoor says, "Indian nationalism has...always been the nationalism of an idea." It is the idea of unity in diversity, sustained by a historical narrative stretching over centuries and a common belief in pluralist democracy. Indians, according to Nehru, existed long before the creation of the Indian state.

The United States has also had a fair amount of success with multiculturalism. But theirs is of a putatively assimilative variety. They are a contractual society - immigrants came to the Americas in droves specifically because they wanted to "sign up" to the ideals laid out in its Constitution. The United States is, as Lincoln once said, "an almost chosen nation." Which is why America is often referred to as a "melting pot" of cultures. It doesn't matter whether you're yellow, pink or brown as long as you are American first - the state has pushed down its own version of cultural pluralism on its citizens, because its citizens had implicitly agreed to abide by those very conditions.

It brings to mind Richard Hofstadter's famous observation about the United States that, "It has been our fate as a nation not to have ideologies but to be one."

British national identity is unlikely to ever become like that of India, that is defined by its very cultural diversity. Not everyone in Britain should be a minority, no. But I do think a state-driven, top-down approach to asserting British values will fail and will result in exactly the sort of social alienation that hatches extremism. To expect immigrants to abandon their cultural and ethnic past is simply unrealistic.

What is needed, then, is a synergetic process whereby British character remains a dominant force but it allows itself to be transformed by the incoming minority cultures and in turn, substantially alters those minority cultures as well. This sort of society produces a British Muslim, or British Chinese, who is completely different from a Muslim or Chinese person anywhere else in the world. They are uniquely, British.

Both Britain and India realise that their historical identity has been formed through accommodation and a slow and subtle accretion. In 1913 Woodrow Wilson insisted the constitution be interpreted according to the Darwinian principle of evolution. "A nation is a living thing," he said.

Shloka Nath is a broadcast journalist. She has worked with the BBC in London and for New Delhi Television (NDTV) in Mumbai.

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26 comments

Mr. Divine's picture

Bungle, get off the bandwagon, it's going to crash.

I cycled through India in the 80s and it's not the best place to be on a wagon never mind a band one. It's a very good place to see weird things though and have your hair cut cheap.

aswin's picture

Why do so many authors try to define what it means to be an Indian? We are animals after all and how do you characterize a pack of dogs living on Indian roads? Defining what it means to an Indian is akin to asking what it means to be a dog in India. They all bark. In the same way , the problem with the british is that they have dabbled with too much multicultarism after all for so many years. If one is asked what the hell it means you might get some flippant response with words like fairness, tolerance, care, belief and if it were America there will be Jesus to the equation.
The more you try to define being an Indian the more you undefined it. This ,an exercise in futility ,has occupied the British for such a long time.

clappique's picture

As pointed out above, I really don't think India is great place to take example from when it comes to multiculturalism...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims#Persecution_of_Musli...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gujarat_violence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_anti-Sikh_riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombay_Riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karnataka_religious_violence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_fidayeen_attacks_on_Raghunath_temple

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akshardham_Temple_attack

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Varanasi_bombings

The idea that the UK can learn from India when it comes to religious tolerance and acceptance of differing cultures strikes me as being fairly ridiculous; redolent of an idealised image of India as this wonderful melting pot of cultures which is actually quite far from the reality of it.

Ramanan's picture

The term Bollywood refers only to Hindi language cinema. While, Bollywood may be watched in various parts of India, in the state of Tamil Nadu, there are few takers - the rival Tamil cinema ("Kollywood") gets exported to various countries - Japan, South-east Asia and just recently, USA. Hindi cinema represents only one of several film industries in the country.

Bollywood, Cricket are the hype news items of English and Hindi language media in India. For most people, they don't care. Bomb blasts get coverage for a few days - until the next one.

Some of the things which news media do not cover about India:

India is land of temples - some of the oldest and largest numbers are again in Tamil Nadu state.

India is land of spirituality, care-free and cheap life (in smaller cities). Many westerns surprisingly like the life in India despite not being as clean as western countries. In places like Thiruvannamali, Auroville etc. you will find several westerns including retired people settled from USA.

Freeman2's picture

"A nation is a living thing," he said.

A nation is a fiction. That's why, as the writer shows, there are problems defining it.

Drakula's picture

America a melting pot of cultures?
Well not exactly I was talking to a friend who had just visited NY city and stated that there were definate black,jewish and Chinese areas there.

I think a state driven 'top down' approach to anything is fascism but expecting immigrants to abandon their culture?

No I wouldn't expect anyone to abandon their culture but I would not like immigrants to completely ignore or be contemptious of the host culture either.

I think there should be a bit of give and take there.

Lou's picture

Cameron was wrong on the process of radicalisation, blaming it all on failure to integrate, be integrated and segregation of communities, the most radicalising factor is Western foreign policy and the Iraq war

I get really fed up of this immigrants must integrate mantra when there are pockets of Little Britain globally where we as immigrants do exactly the same, move to communities of similar ethnicity, don't adopt the language of the host country, mix as little as possible with the natives of the country and generally lead a very insular life and certainly still see ourselves as British first and foremost and not Spanish, French, Saudi, Israeli, Nigerian, Libyan etc etc.

America hasn't done multiculturalism well at all, I agree with Drakula's point.

Finally I would say, if you want immigrants to feel British before anything else, then it is we the British natives of this country who need to change. To be tolerant and compassionate and understanding, to extend our hands in friendship and community and lead by example the leaders of this country, be they political, media or business ones who fail so miserably to practice what they so often preach

Take a look at the press and the immigrant bashing and particularly Muslim bashing, take a look at where that is taking us and at the contempt that the media has stirred up for anyone who happens to be non white - be they British born or not, fully integrated or not.

Take a look at leading politicians remarks that are inherently bigoted, illiberal and discriminatory and most importantly take a look at foreign policy decision making and process.

Then people of other cultures might identify themselves proudly as British and respect our culture. Respect isn't automatic, it has to be earned, it's also reciprocal - and it won't be earned or reciprocated when someone can't walk down our streets without being spat on, harassed, name called and a whole host of other very un-British qualities that are so prevalent in our society these days.

bungle's picture

Lou said "Respect isn't automatic, it has to be earned"

The English have to "earn" immigrants respect?

On yer bike Lou, you twit.

James Brown's picture

It's not really a point of debate. Britain, like India, is intrinsically multicultural. It's just that Cameron and his elite fraternity, cloistered in their privileged bunkers, haven't a clue what's really going on. For them, multiculturalism is a beautiful idea that captures the essence of contemporary Britain when pitching for the World Cup, or the Olympic Games. But it's also an idea to be trashed when canvassing votes among Britains poorest communities. A means to divert dissatisfaction and dissent away from the ruling classses towards quite innocent people. So instead of the recession being the folly of politicians and their love affair with a deregulated and ethically unprincipled global market, it's Said's fault, it's Fatima's fault and it's fault of the Polish family up the road.

Lou's picture

'The English' bungle? Surely you mean British or do you only defend the English part of the Union?

bungle's picture

I mean English Lou because that's what I am and I can only really speak for myself, unlike some...

Judge_Dredd's picture

At the end of the day, we impose on the world our own prejudices and beliefs, and that becomes the only way we can see reality.

Perhaps the real problem is that Britain is so fragmented in terms of beliefs, caught in a post-modern malaise, that nobody can decide on a single course of action in regards to multiculturalism, and so all approaches undermine each other.

At various times I have thought multiculturalism or nationalistic assimilation were better approaches, but probably either would work if the British people were earnest, confident and respectful enough.

Maybe our real problem then is that our leaders and media personalities don't offer much in the way of a common vision - they really don't 'say' anything at all.

English Electric's picture

Thing is Lou, when British people go abroad and lead an insular life, we denigrate them (and rightly so.) However, we don't apply the same thinking to minority communities who come to Britain and don't bother to integrate.

swatantra nandanwar's picture

I can tell you it feels great. With prospects of becoming the 2nd most industrial and economic power by 2020, and entering the Space Race, I can tell you that there never has been a better time to be Indian.
The only draw back is the threat of Murdock and Sky destabilising the culture and traditions of India. And India needs to start addressing that problem now before its too late and learn from the decline in moral standards like in Britain and America.
The Constitution is everything India has shown the World that multiculturism works and secular States are the way forward, not repressive religious States, or Communist States.

Alistair Cole's picture

What we have learnt from the Indian experience of multiculturalism is that multiculturalism does not work. Indeed India is divided on religious lines with it's breakaway Bangladeshi and Pakistani states. Ethnic violence amongst religions is also rife in India with persistent confrontations between Hindus and Muslims.

The multiculturalism of India is not its strength but a challenge to the Indian nation.

swatantra nandanwar's picture

FYI, and as you very well know, India was a declared a secular in 1947 and Pakistan an Islamic State a day before. And even that Islamic state couldn't hold itself together and Bangladesh ceceeded from Pakistan. India has remained a Secular State and a Democracy since 1947 now with a population of 1bn peoples of all faiths inc Christians Zoarastrians Parsees Bahais and Buddhists and Jews. Quite an achievement.
In 2011 troubles have broken out yet again in Northern Ireland; population, a couple of a million.
Reason: Prostestants provoking violence and intimidation by marching through Catholic areas. About time these Marches were stopped.

britologywatch's picture

"What is needed, then, is a synergetic process whereby British character remains a dominant force but it allows itself to be transformed by the incoming minority cultures and in turn, substantially alters those minority cultures as well. This sort of society produces a British Muslim, or British Chinese, who is completely different from a Muslim or Chinese person anywhere else in the world. They are uniquely, British."

I would agree with this statement verbatim - and, indeed, have written something very similar - except I'd replace the word 'British' with 'English'.

It seems rather self-defeating to encourage migrant or non-native communities to embrace a 'British' identity that is increasingly being abandoned by the native populations of the UK's various nations. This in fact drives a wedge between the non-native and native communities in England, with 'British' increasingly standing for a non-ethnically specific identity, while 'English' is ethnicised and restricted to white persons, an identity which non-white persons are then naturally predisposed, and are officially encouraged, to reject.

The 'British' identity is not a unifying force, just as the concept of a united 'British nation' is rapidly unravelling. Only by fostering a non-ethnic, civic English identity will the kind of synergy of cultures the author describes take effect in England.

Just think about it: the concept of a 'British Chinese' or 'British Muslim' person isn't in fact that unusual or surprising, and it's a rather skin-deep idea; an 'English Chinese' or 'English Muslim' identity, on the other hand - now that is real, profound cultural fusion!

bungle's picture

swatantra nandanwar said -

"I can tell you it feels great. With prospects of becoming the 2nd most industrial and economic power by 2020, and entering the Space Race, I can tell you that there never has been a better time to be Indian"

Good for you swatantra. Maybe Britain can stop paying out £280m a year in aid to this oh so successful country then.

joikstallyho's picture

Northern Ireland is just that, swatantra, Irish,divided by religion that great curse of mankind.
One wonders what the attraction is to Britain for Indians, Pakistanis,Somalis, Nigerians Bangladeshis,Chinese

Alistair Cole's picture

What we learn from the recent Irish troubles and the Salman Rushdie affair is that religious pluralism/diversity and freedom of expression do not go hand in hand ...without confliict.

The fact that multiculturalism cannot live with democracy bears testimony to the weakness of multiculturalism as a social model.

See through's picture

bungle
17 July 2011 at 16:42

"Good for you swatantra. Maybe Britain can stop paying out £280m a year in aid to this oh so successful country then "

Maybe Britain can stop it now.. But you need to think about what you say rather than jumping on the bandwagon. The aid is a give and take between countries. During the Katrina disaster in US, India offered aid to US. Does that make US a poor country in your eyes ? Or are you just content with what the tabloids feeding you ?

bungle's picture

"you need to think about what you say rather than jumping on the bandwagon"

Is that your stock answer to people whose opinion differs from yours? I do think about what I say and I am not jumping on any bandwagon.

"India offered aid to US."

Ah yes, that incredibly generous offer of £5m and some tarps, blankets and hygiene kits. More of a token really considering there are 55 billionaires in India.

"Does that make US a poor country in your eyes ?"

Do you mean 'the US' or are you shouting 'us' at me?

"Or are you just content with what the tabloids feeding you ?"

You'd love to think that was the case wouldn't you... :)

You clown.

Asterix's picture

Superb piece

Lucious's picture

Totally agree with the author on this one. Does Britain think it's the only nation who has gone through this? We have a lot to learn from India and other countries with diversity. Great to see this quality of writing in the NS.

Up's picture

bungle: 55 billionaires in India; did you answer your own question regarding foreign aid to India? Unless, of course, you assume that India has a population of 55 people.

AP's picture

Thought-provoking, incisive piece. Every 'nation' is but one room in the same home. Will we ever get that? Can we ever work at just being humane instead of discriminating according to labels?

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