Lib Dem defeat: the recriminations begin
Ashdown: “The bottom line is that Liberal Democrats are exceedingly angry. There has been a breach of faith here.”
By Samira Shackle Published 06 May 2011 9:33
The results of yesterday's local elections are still becoming clear, but one thing is obvious: Nick Clegg's party faces a humiliating defeat. The Liberal Democrats lost control of Hull, while ten out of 12 Lib Dem councillors in Liverpool lost their seat, and every single Lib Dem standing in Manchester was voted out.
The party also had to absorb a crushing double-digit loss in Sheffield, where Clegg has his consituency. By 6am in Scotland, it looked as though the Lib Dems were on course for just 15 per cent of the vote – the worst result of any third party in 50 years.
To make matters worse, it appears that the Conservatives are largely holding up their share of the vote while voters seeking to punish the government for its programme of spending cuts take it all out on the junior coalition partner.
With another resounding defeat expected this evening, when the results of the AV referendum come out, several senior Lib Dems have spoken out about the need to rebalance their role in the coalition after this bruising defeat and the dirty tricks used in the AV campaign.
Paddy Ashdown, a close ally of Clegg's and a supporter of the coalition, lashed out about Cameron's behaviour in the AV campaign and the impact that this will have on coalition relations.
The bottom line is that Liberal Democrats are exceedingly angry. We believe there has been a breach of faith here. If the Conservative Party funds to the level of 99 per cent a campaign whose central theme is to denigrate and destroy our leader, there are consequences for that.
What that means is that this is a relationship that is much less about congeniality; it becomes a business relationship, a transactional relationship, and maybe it will be all the better for that.
David Cameron is the Prime Minister. He sets the tone of politics in this country. It is an unhappy fact that when he was asked to dissociate himself from a campaign that was run on the basis of personalisation and personal attacks, and messages that were far more than some subtle bending of the truth, he refused to do that.
I have to say that he did not dissociate himself from a campaign whose nature I believe every previous British prime minister in my time would have disassociated himself from. That is a grave disappointment. This is a triumph for the regiment of lies. We live with pretty strenuous political campaigns in Britain, but these were downright lies.
So far the coalition has been lubricated by a large element of goodwill and trust. It is not any longer. The consequence is that when it comes to the bonhomie of the Downing Street Rose Garden, that has gone. It will never again be "glad confident morning".
Lord Oakeshott, the party's former Treasury spokesman in the Lords, agreed with this assessment of the Prime Minister's behaviour:
Cameron's performance in pretending he had nothing to do with the No campaign's attacks on Clegg was shameless. At least Pontius Pilate had the decency to wash his hands.
Simon Hughes, the deputy leader of the party, said that the Conservative-funded No camp had run a "fundamentally fallacious campaign that will reduce trust between the Tories and [my] party", adding:
From now on, we are very clear that we will keep to what the coalition has agreed in the coalition agreement. Other stuff will not be allowed in as policy unless our party has agreed to it.
The former Lib Dem MP Evan Harris added his voice to those calling for a refiguring of the so-far close coalition relationship:
We are going to have to make sure we recognise that there are some lessons to be learnt. We do not need to be so collegiate as we have been over the last year.
Others offered a more specific idea of the form that this rebalanced relationship might take – and the tools the party could use to ensure its interests are represented by the leadership. Mike Hancock, the vociferous Lib Dem MP for Portsmouth South, told the BBC:
He still needs our votes to get a majority in parliament. We have got to say that the price of our support is a bit harder than it has been up to now. Maybe he has had too easy a ride . . . Maybe we have to twist his arm a bit harder.
Although a loss on AV seems almost certain, Paul Tyler, Lib Dem spokesman on constitutional affairs in the House of Lords, indicated that the party still has some ammunition left – the redrawn consituency boundaries that the Tories are pursuing. He told the Independent:
Lib Dem MPs and peers don't hold the same view of our coalition allies as we did a few weeks ago. The No campaign has been funded, organised and in effect driven by the Conservative Party. It's a fact of life that there is less enthusiasm today than there was a month ago for the detailed day-to-day support for each other's priorities. It is by no means a done deal that the next election will be fought under new boundaries.
One thing is clear, then: the party is angry. While no one has presented a formal challenge to Clegg's leadership, nor has any senior figure rushed to defend him or the coalition. Although the more outspoken attacks have focused on Cameron's behaviour in the AV campaign, the subtext is clear: Clegg's chummy relationship with the Tories has translated into a battering at the ballot box and it must end.
If the party holds good on its promise to pressurise its leader into asserting its interests and identity more clearly, the next chapter of the coalition will be even more difficult for Clegg to navigate.
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28 comments
The impossibly smug Ashdown being trotted out is a measure of the trouble the Lib Dems are in. 'compromise is not betrayal' is clearly his line....failing to recognise that most do not view betrayal as compromise.
Ashdown was simply appalling on the Today programme earlier - condescension dripping from his every word.
The only thing he and other LibDems care about is their own skins. They have contempt for our people and our country.
Remember 'Clegg' mania? That's like saying remember the 'South Sea Bubble" or 'Tulip Mania.
Oh, Nick! From 'Million Dollar Man' to 'Fall Guy' in three easy steps.
Was it all his fault? Supplied with dodgy kit by his coalition partners, NIck discovered his body armour was more marshmallow than kevlar.
Of course, Nick was perfect 'cannon fodder'; the ideal human shield for Dave to duck behind at the hint of 'incoming'.
Sure, he didn't volunteer to be made a 'patsy"! But when Dave and the Wild Bunch pined on that Dep'ty Sheriff Star and urged him to slap leather he just had to prove he had the cojones to play with the 'beeg boys'.
What was it LBJ used say about his political pawns -"I've got his p***** in m'pocket!"
My what a 'target of opportunity' and every voter's guaranteed a bull's eye. And what with 'Et tu Brute' Hunhe behind the arras.
Absolutely Fabulous
The real result that should worry the Labour party is that the Tory vote has remained remarkably stable. http://bit.ly/m7LQJw
It couldn't have happened to a better man. There must be a lot of Tories laughing up there sleeves at having serendipitously stumbled on such a fall guy.
The Lib Dems... back stabbing the coalition and their leader. Lets not forget they ALL voted to go into government with the Tories, no one forced them, with their greed they sought power after 70 years of drought?...
To be fair to the Tories it is said that 75% of Lib Dem policies have been implemented and they have held up their deal (kind of) and it was really the Lib Dem's fault for not realising what a coalition would mean in compromising their policies with the Tories policies.
Well played Tories? or badly played Lib Dems... the later is what is real.
I hope now that theu pull together and make this coalition work as it's still in its infancy.
A bunch of Lib Dems wittering on about betrayal and breaches of faith. Oh, the delicious irony.
Ashdown has done what I thought was impossible. He has increased my contempt for the LibDems.
"Please Sir, it's not fair. The other side was trying to win" will probably go down well with the diminished fans of LibDem supporters, but even most of them see how degrading it is.
A number of supporters PR and AV say that FPTP works best when there are only two parties. I agree. The soner the Liberals disappear the better.
The quote of the week.
BBC Question time, Paddy tries to interrupt after someone called the coalition a "marriage".Amongst the prattle Paddy said " do you want me to tell you about marriage" this was followed by a wide eyed realisation of what he had said combined with an attempt to swallow his own tongue.
Its a pity he was not heard by the chairman and the moment passed, I would have loved to have heard his pontification on the subject.
A breach of faith...
Well, how do you like dem apples LibDems?
Seems to be a lot of incredulity that the Lib Dems had somehow walked blind and inocently into the web spun by those devious nasty Tories. Does make be chuckle, given the Libs and Tories have been supporting each other in local government for years, from Brum to the Wirral, Oldham and Rochdale to Warrington and Wolverhampton. Hard to shed a tear when they knew (or should have) what the Tories were really like.
So tell me again
Just what ARE the lib dems getting out of this coalition?
I hope someone explains it to me becuase all i see for them is oblivion if they can't see it then there's no hope for them.
And as for Ashdown omg the blame labour/tory/the weather line was out and about from him,no one forced the libdems to go into this government,no one forced them to persue this vicious right wing agenda only themselves.
The beginning of the end of the libdem party started last night they may save something if they change course but there's utterly no evidence of it.
Brussels beckons!
erher
Time for recriminations! - and they haven't even declared the AV referendum yet! How much worse can it get?
He should be got his people in one of the three great offices of states- there is lies real influence and power.
He may just have to go through the brand differentiation route now; although most of their support comes from students which they have effectively lost.
disgusting comment from rich suffolk tory nob
you should be hung by your butler with your pyjama cord
Ashdown says : “The bottom line is that Liberal Democrats are exceedingly angry. There has been a breach of faith here.”
The truth is that the bottom line is that millions of voters are exceedingly angry. They voted against the Lib Dems because of their breach of faith'
The fact that the Lib Dems are just slingling blame at everyone else and taking no responsibility for their own actions does not bode well for any chance of their rehabilitation in the eyes of voters.
When it comes to politics the voter is like the customer...they're always right.
Nick should stay.
People are reading Nick wrongly; hes not one of these bleeding heart Libs like Ming or Kennedy, who play at politics but are afraid to take on responsibility. Nick took a couragous decision to go into Coalition at a time of emergency. That time has passed as the mesures Labour put in place are taking effect and green shoots of recovery are on the way. Nick should stay and do one final thing before he steps down as Leader ie pull the Party out of the Coalition and let the Tories try and make a go of defending their policies on the economy.
The Lib Dems, quick to blame Cameron and the Tories for their losses, should not overlook their own responsibility for this election debacle. Cameron and the Tories untrustworthy? Why are the Lib Dems the last to know this? Clegg dumbly led his party into the coalition, was snookered on the major issue of his party (a vote on AV), yet the Lib Dem leadership, while denouncing Cameron for his deception, pledge to support his austerity budget, which could easily plunge the UK back into recession. What justification is there now for a Lib Dem party? If a substantial number of (former) Lib Dem voters defected to the Tories, and it seems that some at least have, this party has no core values worth supporting any longer.
'Ashdown blames Tories'. Pompous oaf.
Ashdown's sactimonious turn spoiled what might have been a pretty decent edition of QT last night.
The Lib Dems value being in government more than the hopes and aspirations of the people who were crudely conned into voting for them.
Despite losing seats, will Clegg pull out of the Coalition? No. If they do, they have no real say in anything. If they stay, he can threaten to throw his weight around on certain issues. Then again, he has no real influence.
weasels shocked to discover that wolves are not to be trusted. Wolves get treated with a respect that's based on fear. Weasels are vicious little bastards but nobody's scared of them.
See, you mad communists think we're all port-adled buffoons, but perhaps now you can see our masterstroke unfolding ;)
Take the flak Nick, take the flak - we'll carry on with business as usual
Typed from my Blackservant
so the Libdems say the tories betrayed them well I have news for them they betrayed thier votes what goes around comes around
It's not the Tories who betrayed them, it's the LDs who betrayed the electorate and that is the reason they lost so many seats.
The Tories might well have seen an opportunity through this coalition to bury the LDs, make them the fall guys for policies and make sure that they won't be in the running come the next general election but it's purely and simply the voter who is responsible for the poor results for the LDs and no one else.
Grown up politics - don't make me laugh.
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