That`s because the MPs are better informed and more intelligent than the ignorant public who just ask`Why should we care about one lot of foreigners killing another lot of bloody foreigners? `. Far away country of which we know little and all that ...

Whoopie...!!! With Gadaffi's air force rendered inoperative, I guess US aircraft have only one thing left to worry about now - "Mechanical Failure"...???

Roger Godsiff is my MP and I voted for him last year.

Pretty gutted about that right now.

Well, these are 13 decent, pro-peace, pro-dialogue UK MPs who won't be arraigned before the International Criminal Court (ICC) for complicity in what may well eventually become a Libyan Holocaust and a Libyan Genocide after the fashion of the bombing and eventual invasion of Iraq (4.5 million violent and non-violent excess deaths, 1990-2011) and Afghanistan (4.9 million violent and non-violent excess deaths, 2001-2011).

Of course we all want democracy for everyone but that does not mean that we should support "shock and awe" destruction of Libya nor indeed of other dictatorships or, for that matter, of ostensibly democratic countries involved in violent suppression of Subject Populations (e.g. the UK, US, other US Alliance countries, Apartheid Israel and White Australia).

History ignored yields history repeated. Sanctions and no-fly zone bombing of oil-rich Iraq by UK, US and Apartheid Israel (1990-2003) was associated with non-violent avoidable deaths from deprivation totalling 1.7 million and under-5 infant deaths totalling 1.2 million (90% avoidable and due to US Alliance war crimes)(for documented details see "Iraqi Holocaust, Iraqi Genocide": https://sites.google.com/site/iraqiholocaustiraqigenocide/ ).

I am totally disgusted at the number of Labour and SNP MPs, all our Scottish MPs, who voted for this war, twisting the resolution of the United Nations just as the Labour Party did against Iraq. Even if it were right to intervene why should Britain take to lead?

There is neither honour nor honesty behind the attacks to "support" resolution 1973. Bloody disgrace.

Well done to these people they are shutting my kids school to save money yet i cruise missile is more then enough to cover it remember that he has been in power 40 odd years and is the 12 th leading oil exporter this may have something to do with the release of the usa plane bomber and terrorism but remember that noraid americans backed the ira with money but they are bringing that up again over libya where next staton island??????

Des Demona should go elsewhere if the reporting is not detailed enough here, rather than slagging off the journalists.

mcquade is right - you cannot criticise a journalist for staying up late and reporting on the news as it happens.

As for the difference between the outcome and the debate - better to wait and get the facts right rather than cobbling together a story in the middle of the night. Have the MPs in question even revealed the thinking behind their decisions - perhaps they just went home for a good night's sleep like everyone else.

Funny thing though - Des Demona is often on this site, reading and commenting - so I guess the NS must be doing something right!

You've missed off the tellers for the Noe vote - Katy Clark and Yasmin Qureshi.

I would be more comfortable with the honesty of the moral justification for intervention had we been so keen to do the same in say Bahrain, Burma, or maybe were a bit more cautious about trading with China etc etc etc. But ......
As for all the "our brave boys" tosh, erm what did you think your job was when you signed up?

557 to 13 ... what would have been the score if those who voted yes had to risk their lives in order to keep the oil revenue on side... ???

Hang them.

It's what Gaddafi would do.

Who is going to speak out for those who are opposed to the Libya intervention now that the political class has embraced consensus?

#solidarity.

(With Gaddafi, apparently).

Evil triumphs if good men do nothing.

Someone once said.

Most people agree Gaddafi is evil.

I leave it up to the reader to decide whether the 13 MP's are good men.

Ah, but what were their MOTIVES for voting against? I doubt that a Tory "agin"'s motives are the same as a Green's. And without motive, the fact that these people are against intervention is meaningless. Information about motives, please.

I salute the 13 (even the Tory!) who had the balls to vote against yet another foreign war that this country never seems to tire of. Cameron couldn't wait to grab his "Blair moment" to join another "coalition of the willing" to go marauding into another country in the Middle East ostensibly on some spurious mission to "protect civilians" (at least it makes a change from "WMD"!) but I think we all know that this, once more, is really about oil and protecting the interests of the multi-nationals.
At a time when this country is facing cuts in public spending of an unprecedented scale, it is nothing short of shameful that we are, once more, committing countless millions and risking the lives of our armed forces to an ill-defined and dangerous adventure on foreign soil that could drag on for years.

I too agree with these 13 MPS. My simili is politics and religion. As we oppose any regime of nation or organisation ready to kill those who are not of their religion I think similarly we should not try to impose democracy any nation. Afterall if we look at the main cause of present day terrorism is religion. Then are we not 'terrorist' in opposing non democratic other nations. However saying this I do think that absolute power corrupts and in cases like Lybia and Zimbabwe we can use some other infulence to change.

Most of the posters here who are in favour of intervention appear to assume that the rebels are all freedom-loving democrats.

In the light of the regimes now in charge in both Iraq and Afghanistan don't you think you ought to be a little more cautious and a bit less righteous?

We're so relieved. Raf types giving the 'thumbs-up' sign from the cockpit of their Typhoon Euro jets before flying off into Libyan airspace.
What was the phrase used by jet jockeys during the Korean War?
"Everything is George!"

By GAD, sir! You are a card!

Why do so many of your commentators insist on the "oil" theme? It is not relevant. Who ever comes out on top will sell oil on a competitive market to the highest bidder. The oil question which matters is who in Libya benefits? A terrorist dictator with the philosophy of Adolf Hitler, and his minions, or the people of Libya ?

My view of politicians is generally low but I have immense sympathy when they have to make decisions which probably have no win outcomes but which cannot be ducked in these days of media searchlights.

"Just thank your good fortune that you are not one of them" is my reposte to those who have no more insight but to spout predujices at those forced to make unpalative action in impossible situations.

"To thyself alone be true" and I respect any MP on either side of division who acted on his/her true conviction in this impossible vote.

Moodle Poodle.... erm... why have you singled out Caroline Lucas to aim your shot at?

I too am cynical about why these MPs voted "no".

It is disgusting that some people think that we should turn a blind eye to suffering and simply shrug our shoulders when people are crying out for us to help them. The people of Libya wanted a No-Fly Zone, they wanted us to come and stop Gaddafi and his hired thugs from commiting mass murder.

Gaddafi was, and still is, in some areas, shelling his own people, bombarding innocent civilians in populated cities, just because he has lost contorl of them to the revolutionaries.

We have a moral, and international duty to intervine and help these people, we could not allow Gaddafi to murder his own people, or to carry on his torture of his own people. His hired butchers and the Libyan army were firing on ambalances, going into hospitals and taking suspected, injured rebels, most of who have now "disappeared" and Gaddafi forces have been burying people alive, in undergound bunkers.

Gaddafi's military and mercenaries were shotting and attacking men, women and children without discrimination.

The allied forces of NATO, France and the Arab League have avoiding civilian casulaities, and there is no reiable reports of civilian deaths as the resort of the bombing campaign against Gaddafi's military.

And this is not about oil, Libya count for very little oil reserves in the world, and if anything this may actually endanger oil reserves and indeed, will push up oil prices.

Shame on them all

Oh dear Des Demon, a journalist works oveertime to report the outcome of a debate that finished very late, and you demand a lengthy detailed report. Use your own initiative next time and watch it yourself before spitting venom.