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Another blow to Palin’s presidential hopes

Republican hopeful finishes fourth in poll of members in New Hampshire.

History will record that Sarah Palin's presidential hopes ended the week of the Tucson shootings. Palin may not have been responsible for the tragedy (a point eloquently made by Dan Hodges), but her inept and confused response made her look unpresidential in the eyes of most Americans.

The latest polls confirm the damage that the affair has done to Palin's standing. A poll of Republican members in the kingmaker state of New Hampshire put her in fourth place on 7 per cent, behind Mitt Romney (35 per cent), Ron Paul (11 per cent) and Tim Pawlenty (8 per cent). Meanwhile, in the Times (£), ConservativeHome's Tim Montgomerie suggests that Jeb Bush is now the most credible Republican candidate for 2012 and adds that "the sooner Mrs Palin is removed from the race, the sooner voters can have a good look at other candidates".

Another recent survey by Public Policy Polling found that Texas would become a swing state if Palin was selected by the Republicans. While Mike Huckabee has a lead of 16 points over Barack Obama in the state and Mitt Romney has a lead of 7 points, Palin leads the president by just a single point in a hypothetical contest. The psephological reality is that there is now no chance of Palin winning the Republican nomination.

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REPAY's picture

Actually many Tories - including some MPs were involved in Hilary Clinton's campaign. The Republicans have not ben authentically fiscally conservative for decades!

Des Demona's picture

Congratulations Mulligrub - your post is both incomprehensible and revealinjg in an ill thought out sort of way. lol
(no offence)

jie4v7i14's picture

Wiki this about Jeb. < control-f > Jeb search when you get there, or just google for an undisinfected version,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Flor...

Very dubious Republican from the Bush clan.

And talking of clans, Happy Burns night at the moment, yer sassenachs. Have a dram on me - I recommed the Highland Park, it's nectar.

triedeinsursE's picture

Ya'al are sure keeping tabs on sweet Sarah!! What in the hell is your problem? Is your country so led by the nose by us that American politicians are given as much scrutiny as one of your soccer stars? You would think the American left was the same as yours. Our country is right of center. The UK is left of Fidel Castro. If you have any ideas about us pulling your rods from the fire again, it ain't gonna happen. We have no special relationship with the UK whatsoever. We do have special relationships with a few countries, Israel being an obvious example.

Orthodoxcaveman's picture

"We do have special relationships with a few countries, Israel being an obvious example."

When you say "we" I assume you mean the US ruling class and its relationships with other ruling classes. The Saudi monarchy is probably the most important in the region with Egypt not far behind.

Des Demona's picture

Oh give it a rest Buckskins. We all know you are some saddo living with his mum just outside Luton.

Dr Gautam Sen's picture

Surely, a nation in unstoppable decline deserves Sarh Palin and her Tea Party.

Stuart Eels's picture

Thank you for your kind words Thomas Devine. What I don't understand is why people like you and Buckskins don't get a clause added to the Tea Party manifesto "End the special relationship!"

As part of a nation that wouldn't take jewish refugees until it was too late, you can teach us nothing about racism. Why you even had a organisation funded by Disney, Ford and Lindburugh to campaign to keep them out.

For any who wish to be enlightened as to the real British attitude to the jewish refugees rather than Thomas Devine and Buckskins skewed views watch Britain's Secret Schindler Revealed 8.00pm C5 tonight.

I look forward to Buckskind usual childish rant in reply.

Brandt's picture

The public is finally coming around to seeing the true Sarah Palin. Instead of smiling and nodding while talking about murders and national tragedies, she should have shown some humility. I was compelled to create a visual commentary of her political rhetoric and its effects on my artist's blog at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2011/01/sarah-palin-made-me-do-it.html Drop by and let me know what you think.

Trotwood's picture

re. Douglas Clarke
Many people in Britian think Republican = Tories and Democrats = Labour, when in fact Republican = the deceased Queen Mother's right wing politics and Democrats = Tories. Labour well?

Stuart Eels's picture

What we really need is for Sarah Palin to win, she would within months so offend the hangers on the from our so-called political elite that we would get away from this one way "special relationship"

Clara Kabalevsky's picture

It's pity Britain have been deluded in their "special relationship" with the US. From a moral point of view I don't understand how they could possibly want to be connected with a nation so wholly embroiled with wars disguised as humanitarian assistance and sheer greed. It's probably the place that poses the greatest threat to the human race- because it does so much damage, all accompanied by an arrogant sense of entitlement.

In some ways it would be satisfying-even comical, to see Sarah Palin win so that she could ruin America in record time- except I worry that she may blow up the world before she gets round to ruining America. On assessing the risks, perhaps it's better that she never becomes president- she really is a liability in the most extreme sense.

Mulligrubs's picture

EtchTee:
Belated reciprocal greetings re: Burns night - his famous lines " Then let us pray that come it may, as come it will for a' that - that man wi'man the world o'er shall brother's be for a' that." are universal. How about after the Scots finally achieve their overdue independence - we have oursel's a special relationship - wi' Highland Park - that's the spirit eh?

grounded kiwi's picture

I feel ill just reading another Bush name as a possibility for 2012

Mulligrubs's picture

Dr Gautem Sen - Incidentally, what is that an anagram of?
"Surely a nation in unstoppable decline deserves Sarah Palin and her Tea Party."
Oh dear, that is unnecessarily provocative. A nation that turns its back on Bushism and elects Obama cannot be described as being in unstoppable decline. The tea party is an over-trumpeted side show which hopefully will divide the republican backwoodsmen - they deserve that all right. On the other hand - a nation that winds up having to exist under a rag bag coalition of Tories and Lib Dems foisted upon it by it's own short-sightedness and gullibility deserves a rude awakening - and I think it's getting one. Having said that - perhaps the word 'deserves' is a bit strong. It's a tragedy really self inflicted by default.

Extranea's picture

Lol maybe the us public have finally opened their eyes to Sarah Palin's shallow politics. I doubt it.

http://extranea.wordpress.com/

Dave C's picture

"Gautem Sen" is an anagram of "enema guts"

Mulligrubs's picture

Dave C:

Thanks Dave: We'll settle for that then eh?
You'd be a whizz on Countdown.

Meister Garfio's picture

Deep inside Buckskins is a lefty. He just cannot accept it. Come out of the closet Buckskins

Galahad's picture

Stuart, sadly, that would be several seconds after she begins using Nuclear weapons in active conflicts.
Sarah Palin is everything wrong with politics, shallow, vacuous and power hungry. Driven by ideology and not pragmatic idealism, she seeks power for its own sake and not what she can do for others.
Buckskins, We in the UK do care about US Politics, as for the next 20-30 years the US President will be the most powerful person in the world, and as responsible Global citizens we should keep and eye on who sits in the White House.
And Mulligrubs, yes we do have a Religious Right here, similar in beliefs to the US 'Moral Majority' (now there is a misnomer), Christian Voice and their ilk. However, they are not as vocal nor as powerful, yet should be watched as closely

slightly miffed's picture

why do you even bother Buckskins, really, why? What is your agenda, really, what is it? Please tell me, I am interested. I see your name on many of the comments on many of these pages on this site. You don't agree with it, you are openly hostile to it, and quite dismissive of people who agree with it. Maybe you shouldn't hang around lefty bleeding heart liberal sites from the Peoples Republic of Britain?

Dave C's picture

Apologies for the Rabelaisian rudeness to a total stranger: "Gautem Sen" is also an anagram of "unmet sage".

RFM's picture

Nevermind why Buckskins bothers, why does anyone bother responding to him/her/it? Britain being left of Fidel Castro, yet America has an embargo on not so left Cuba but trades with even more left Britain? The USA is not going to salvage our rods again ... I know we haven't done well in Iraq, but we are not fending the now defunct Republican Guard off the shores of Brighton with pots, pans and pitchforks pleading with America to come and save us. These are not the expressions of a coherent mind, they are rumblings about events either from the previous century or the nonexistant. You cannot reason with such a point of view, so humour it instead. Buckskins for guest editor of Playboy.

Mulligrubs's picture

Dave C:

'Rabelaisian?' OOOer! You're not THE Dave C are you? If you are - you must mean Machiavellian- si?

Thomas Devine's picture

Stuart Eels, there are plenty of us here in the USA who'd love to end the "Special Relationship" with the UK. Remember all most of us get out of the "Special Relationship" is cheap shots from bigots like you!

The sooner we eliminate NATO and admit that Western Europe is deeply Anti-American (Except for the Irish) and deeply Anti-Semetic too (Again the Irish less than the rest of you), the better for OUR nation.

NATO's only function is to provide a subsidy for European nationalism. You need to either pay for your own national pretentions or do without!

triedeinsursE's picture

Re:
" Orthodoxcaveman
24 January 2011 at 22:31

"We do have special relationships with a few countries, Israel being an obvious example."

When you say "we" I assume you mean the US ruling class and its relationships with other ruling classes. The Saudi monarchy is probably the most important in the region with Egypt not far behind"

I can't say I agree. If we turned the Israelis loose they would roll up the Middle East. They have the most up to date military in the world after us, and they know how to use it.

jie4v7i14's picture

Oh no, not another Bush clan member on the horizon.

He was one of the idiots alledgedly behind the Florida voting scandal in 2000, wasn't he? Chads and all that?

And The Times is backing him - surprise,surprise.

triedeinsursE's picture

That did it Des, now that you've busted me. I take it Luton is not in Grovener Square then?

triedeinsursE's picture

"And Mulligrubs, yes we do have a Religious Right here, similar in beliefs to the US 'Moral Majority' (now there is a misnomer), Christian Voice and their ilk. However, they are not as vocal nor as powerful, yet should be watched as closely"

Just as they keep tabs on Brit Lefties and Communists in sheep's clothing in particular.

triedeinsursE's picture

Just think Clara, and Sarah would be your de facto PM.

Mulligrubs's picture

Bearing in mind that this is the New Statesman site, and all that that should imply, we should welcome Buckskins input and regard it as an opportunity to enlighten this narrow minded and uncomplicated cowboy. He has after all, had the dismal disadvantage of being subjected to a lifetime of red neck American Politics and therefore is obviously in urgent need of much intellectual stimulation and broadening of his mind. I do hope he calls again and eventually finds it here among the intelligent comments and posts - and that he will benefit from it by becoming politically and hopefully emotionally mature. We must regard this as a mission to one who has been deprived. So welcome Hopalong if you adopt an open mind - things can only improve for you. You must understand that you enjoy the sympathy and goodwill of all of us. We'll make a socialist of you yet! Nils Desperandum ol' pardner. I do hope I don't sound patronising.

triedeinsursE's picture

Thomas, the "special relationship" is a figment of British imagination. We treat them the same as the rest of Europe. I concur with your sentiments. We need out the UN, out of NATO, and our military out of Europe altogether. Let them pay for their own defense. Germany is running Europe and the Brits are of little consequence as their military have also demonstrated.

triedeinsursE's picture

“ Dr Gautam Sen
27 January 2011 at 06:02

Surely, a nation in unstoppable decline deserves Sarh Palin and her Tea Party”

As she for all practical purposes would be your PM, I’m not sure if the chaos in the UK is at all salvageable by anyone. I do however agree with your assessment of the UK. I wonder if the Indians will find your grand kids acceptable as immigrants.

triedeinsursE's picture

" Meister Garfio
27 January 2011 at 11:58

Deep inside Buckskins is a lefty. He just cannot accept it. Come out of the closet Buckskins"

How perceptive of you sir. I'm just to the left of Genghis Khan.

triedeinsursE's picture

Not at all Mr Grubs, and if this adopted pseudo attitude is the balm you need then by all means utilize it as your coping mechanism for your battered ego.

triedeinsursE's picture

A Yellow Texas Rose for sweet Clara.

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Mulligrubs's picture

Des Demona - none taken - After all imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - I will bask in such well earned literary plaudits - thank you.
AND - I really like your 'Luton' repost to Buckskins - I think you've rumbled him - But even Luton cowboy wannabe's should be treated sympathetically rather than harshly - don't you think? They are already at a disadvantage to those who have lives.

triedeinsursE's picture

It's going to take you people 75 years to pay your debts if you don't default. In spite of this you lefties still think your govt coffers are a bottomless source of funds to cater to your feelings of entitlement. You don't really care about the generations that will have to pay for your wants. This is Socialism in action I guess.

Mulligrubs's picture

Galahad

Thanks for that - I think I know some of the "UK religious right" that you refer to - although the term right is a bit misleading - none of them seem to know their born again arses from their happy-slappy elbows. Surely they can be discounted as a fanatical political force of the right -or is that being dangerously complacent do you think?

Mulligrubs's picture

Oh dear, Poor old Buckskins obviously got out of the wrong side of the bed again - what vitriol - what vituperation! Go and have your breakfast sir and return in a better humour. But that said - the yellow rose gesture was nice - work on that attractive side of your nature why don't you? So long Hoppy

Jon's picture

Be interesting to see her stand independently, maybe as a Tea Party candidate. Would split the right wing vote, so maybe it should be encouraged!

Des Demona's picture

The sooner this lightweight freak is consigned to the political dustbin the better for the rest of the world.

triedeinsursE's picture

"They are already at a disadvantage to those who have lives."

Your lives are in here sweating bullets over American politicians because your own are our lapdogs.

JP's picture

American politics is never really satisfying, especially for those on the real Left. But Palin being out would be great news.
It's sad that some British Tories still rally behind the GOP. If they knew what they really believed, I would hope that those Tories would run as far away from the Republicans as they could.

Douglas Clarke's picture

@JP: It is sad, but plenty of British Tories (myself included) can't stand the Republican Party being forever in hoc to the religious right. I'd far rather have a centrist (or even a left-leaning) Democrat than a Republican.

Clara Kabalevsky's picture

@mulligrubs and @buckskins- Completely agree that we should welcome little Buckskins with open arms and hopefully lead him along the path of enlightenment. There must be something he ain't getting from right-wing newspaper websites therefore has found himself wandering into leftism. It's clearly your destiny- embrace it Buckskins! And I do enjoy reading your comments, even if I usually don't agree with them.

Dave C's picture

This was a "poll of the 493 members of the New Hampshire Republican State Committee", who are activists with an eye on winning.
Presumably any selection would be made by a wider group of Republican members and/or registered Republicans.

Another poll today: "A new Rasmussen Reports survey of likely Republican primary voters shows that Mitt Romney leads the pack with the support of 24 percent. Sarah Palin, the party’s nominee for vice president in 2008, runs second with 19 percent, closely followed by Mike Huckabee with 17 percent.

...

"Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich comes in fourth in the Rasmussen poll with 11 percent support, while another former governor, Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, was next with 6 percent."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/jan/24/polls-sh...

Mulligrubs's picture

Congratulations Douglas Clarke - your post is both incomprehensible and revealing in an ill thought out sort of way (no offence meant). Enlighten me please - does the UK not have a religious right? - I am genuinely curious. If it does - dare you name it?

Arturo Bandini's picture

@Mulligrubs -

Without wanting to put words in his mouth, I reckon Douglas Clarke was mourning the fact that any medieval voodoo practitioners have influence on the politics of a supposed democracy.

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