UK: why stay?
Ireland’s youth are fleeing economic meltdown – could Britain be next?
By Sholto Byrnes Published 14 November 2010 10:23
On a beautiful day this last summer I had lunch with an old friend, a well-known Labour activist and journalist, whose words cast a chill on our conversation even as the sun beat down on the Persian repast in which we were indulging on the lower slopes of Hampstead. "People have no idea how bad it's going to get," he said of the austerity measures he feared were about to be imposed. So bad, he told me, that he and his family were considering emigrating. "We're seriously thinking about moving to Canada."
Canada? Inevitable jokes about the tedium of that country aside, that seemed pretty steep. This is a man who has been a correspondent for an international television news network, a frequent columnist in the British press, and who, if he stays, stands a very good chance of becoming an MP at some point, and one sure to enjoy either swift promotion to the front benches or notoriety and respect as one of the leaders of the awkward squad. If he thought then that prospects were that gloomy, what hope for the rest of us whose CVs may not possess quite such lustre?
Especially now, and especially viewed from abroad. From the countries I've been in recently - Abu Dhabi, Malaysia and Singapore, balmier climes where the comfort of the heat is matched in some way by a greater ease of living: no one's too poor to afford a bowl of rice and chicken good enough to grace the tables of London's pricy restaurants - the news from home seems unrelentingly grim. Students battling police and chanting "Tory scum" in protest at university funding cuts. The street lights going out all over Britain as councils struggle to deal with their reduced budgets. Jobless people to be forced to undertake unpaid work, such as picking up litter, in order to qualify for unemployment benefit.
It feels like the harshest measures of the Thatcher years without even the shallow materialist promise of the "loadsamoney" culture that some might benefit while others suffer. And as I sit on a balcony watching the lights of the Kuala Lumpur Petronas Twin Towers twinkle at me over this relaxed but buzzing city, having just taken a family member to a private hospital (single room per night - under GBP 50) to receive the best care a medical staff trained in the UK can provide, I wonder: why am I going back?
Why go back to a country so incognisant of its decline into at best middle-ranking status that its leader dare lecture China on why it ought to be a liberal democracy? Why celebrate returning to a state whose younger generations have to face the unpalatable future of settling for less, much less, than their profligate parents took for granted? What value such a country's much-vaunted civilisation and literature when it is soon to close so many of its libraries and consign so many of its arts organisations to penury? And just what does its equally-proud tradition of tolerance mean when both government and opposition now shamelessly court the anti-immigration vote?
What's worse is that this is only the beginning. Look what is happening in Ireland. Today's Observer reports that the country's youth are fleeing abroad "as economic meltdown looms", and many there think that the UK could be only nine to 12 months behind suffering the same situation - an analysis Alistair Darling and Ed Balls appear to share.
I will go back, of course (not least because my return ticket says I will). I, my wife and young son have a flat there, we have lives, work, family, friends, histories, connections, not to say obligations, commitments, interests - and it's home. But after this last bout of travels it feels like we will be going back to a much meaner, smaller place, a country whose generosity has shrunk and whose spirit has tightened. A place whose government knows the price of everything, and knows that it should be cut, and the value of... well, not enough.
And then I think: Canada? It wouldn't be my first choice. But Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Abu Dhabi - or, for that matter, Muscat, Beirut, Jakarta? Well, why not? Frankly, why stay?
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@swatantra nandanwar - not the same Conservative party, per se - go find out what happened to the canadian PC's. The history of the various Canadian right parties is pretty well documented.
Message from Canada - what tedium? The tedium of a solid financial system, a growing economy, lower unemployment than the US and Europe? The tedium of a great country whose best days are always ahead of it? Sorry to say this (because I admire Britain and particularly its history), but Britain is, if not in decline, at least not growing very rapidly. Canada is a totally different story. There are more Canadians now employed than ever before. Our population grows by half a million every year. If this is what the British call tedium, I am quite happy to live with it.
Having immigrated to Canada from the UK I must take issue with you calling it "tedious". Depends where you are, doesn't it? Montreal and Toronto and Vancouver might not quite measure up to London but they are hardly "tedious". Our population is still polite and friendly and well educated and generous and tolerant and ethnically diverse despite several years of Conservative government. (Our problem is that the center-left vote is split between 3 parties so the Cons manage to win seats and government with only 35% of the vote.) Plus we have the great outdoors. And thanks to climate change our winters are quite bareable, especially on the west coast. So come on over!
So Labour activist believes his country is being destroyed by the bullingdon boys. His response to this is to run away to Canada, this just sums up how spineless Labour has been on the whole issue of the cuts.
If like Lauren Booth you've got a good job and convert, I suppose it could be ok. But being an economic migrant is not as easy as it sounds. Those who are thinking should seriously talk to Poles and Asians and Afro-Carribeans here before setting out, about their experiences of migration. Its not as easy an being an expat on a fat pension whiling away time in sunnt Spain.
Is this the same Canada that implemented huge austerity measures in the 90's and never looked back?
Sholto Byrnes,
What is it your article is trying to say? If you think it's great that a member of your family was treated in a private Hospital room Under $50 GP per night you are no better than Maggie! Do you really think that is cheap to the vast majority of people who live in that country?
I know when I'm approaching the town where I live there's the orange glow guiding me for miles, street lights on all night on every street when most of the town is fast asleep, what happened to saving the Earth?
I was astonished to find that the local Council has a Street naming Officer with two assistants and a Chief Executive who earns £40,000 than the Prime minister.
None of this has occured since May, it's been coming for years. It doesn't matter which party you vote for, it's a closed club in all three parties of University Graduates going straight into Politics and Journalism, by generation after generation and it doesn't matter how talentless they are they still run our country to their benefit!
'I was astonished to find that the local Council has a Street naming Officer with two assistants and a Chief Executive who earns £40,000 than the Prime minister.'
Some people will believe anything it seems.
I left a few years ago for SE Asia to teach English and will never return to the UK. Life's not perfect here and there's plenty to miss but I have a much better standard of living on a much lower salary.
I can't help thinking that the great british public are only getting what they deserve. They inform themselves with 'the sun' and 'the daily mail', vote for indistinguishable, corrupt and shallow politicians who lie and take away their freedoms and then mutter complaints to each other when it hits them in their pockets.
I'm sure many have been shaken out of their apathy recently but I doubt enough of them and the downward spiral will continue.
What young intelligent but unprivileged person wouldn't think about leaving?
What a load of crap, Bullingdon boys destroyed it? it was Labour & Brown that made the deficit & income disparity as well as watching over the banks, try thinking of ideas & policies rather than blame all world failures on Tories.
Tolerance & the anti immigration vote? who seriously wants 80 million in the UK?
The state is 60% of economy private sector 40% & its not working, the fat man needs to get off the skinny mans back.
Stay and fight, I say. This lot won't be in charge forever. Other places may look wonderful while you're on holiday, but might not seem so great when you actually live there. Leaving isn't really an option for most people, however much they might dream of escaping.
It's unlikely Canada is any more accommodating of the kind of oppression of workers to the benefit of the middle class in which the modern Labour party specialises.
Don't let the door hit your ass, etc etc
@well-known Labour activist and journalist,
Fucking Labour c##t destroys the country and now wants to leave. Yes, great medical services in KL., but we give free treatment to medical tourists in London. Even the deputy PM gets beaten up in Malaysia for mouthing it.
A Labour MP. equates with slime!
"Why go back to a country so incognisant of its decline into at best middle-ranking status that its leader dare lecture China on why it ought to be a liberal democracy?"
Errrm... how about BECAUSE it is a liberal democracy?
Allow me to reassure you that both you and your troubled activist friend have little to worry about. As long as you can pass the 'not young, old, poor or sick' criteria then all will be well for you, and there is no need to emigrate!
It's not a question of who is to blame anymore. The fact is that Britain today bears no relation to the decent country of fifty years ago,and the decline has been incessant and accelerated by a series of stupid governments of all political persuasions.
I have a devised my children to leave the country as soon as they are able,and my elder daughter is doing just that. She has travelled to several countries and reports back that, whilst she loves part of Canada and would happily settle in Grand Prairie, she found that even Poland was a more pleasant and better organized place than modern Britain. She also reports that many of the places she visited in the US are much more civilized, and safe than in Dave 'the poor are always with us' Cameron's nineteenth century Britain. If I were in my late teens or twenties I would be off like a rocket.
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Five nights a week Niamh Buffini trains in her local martial arts club, nurturing her dream of winning gold for Ireland. "I'm always upbeat, but with my friends the chat about how bad things are is never ending.
"I'm an optimist by nature and I hope we can get out of this. The best I could say is I couldn't see it getting any worse."
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@456. Yippee for the Mountie !
But, when will Canada 'grow up' ? ! - become a republic.
@PT
"Is this the same Canada that implemented huge austerity measures in the 90's and never looked back?"
yeah, the Canada that has a border with the US which was at the time having a massive boom and to whom they could sell; rather than being surrounded by countries also imposing austerity and having economic difficulties of their own.
Funny you don't mention the great success of Ireland's austerity measures?
My daughter is living in Australia. She has no idea why, if given the possibility, one would stay in this miserable and mean country that Britain has now become.She has £12000 student debt but she is very unlikely to ever repay it.
With the horrendous debts the students of the future will start life with, it would not surprise me that Britain will suffer a brain drain in the near future when people realise they don't actually have to repay this outrageous debt. All they have to do is emigrate and start a new life with zero debt in a lovely country of their choice.
Have the clowns in government thought about that?
not only that but you don't even have to wait until you finish your studies. Why not go and study in another European country? Many of them even run courses entirely in English, especially Holland. As a EU student, you will pay the same as local students, which in many cases, will be .. NOTHING, like in France where University is entirely free.
If the British are not prepared to fight for their rights ( see the fuss being made about the student demo)and oppose these cuts, as some one said, they deserve every thing they get, including losing their young and their educated workforce who will go where they are better treated.Who can blame them?
I can see no glory in being an MP of any persuasion. And as for being on the front benches, no thanks!
If only thirty million other folk would follow suit !
No, seriously, UKGBNI be overpopulated, and, if forecasters are to be believed, things will only get worse - seventy million c.2050 - EEKS !
Daniele
For once(!) we agree. My younger cousin has just left Ireland for Australia, and I've told him not to come back there or here.
PS Am I alone in thinking Sholto's mate sounds like an insufferable c***? And of an odious breed of prattlers far too numerous already:
"This is a man who has been a correspondent for an international television news network, a frequent columnist in the British press, and who, if he stays, stands a very good chance of becoming an MP at some point, and one sure to enjoy either swift promotion to the front benches or notoriety and respect as one of the leaders of the awkward squad."
So no great loss then.
The Canadian Conservatives were in severe meltdown 20 years ago down to 2 seats in their House, but managed to recover and now govern. I've got absolutely no idea why.
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