Passwords and prosecutions
The curious case of Oliver Drage.
By David Allen Green Published 13 October 2010 18:23
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114 comments
"There is something not right here."
David Allen Green, you can do an expose very well. But you can't count. *irony alert*
1nothingspecial.. Things that could be 'worse' than indecent images of children ? Now THAT'S definitely a strange comment !
I just want to point out that the repressive legislation under which the luckless Drage was incarcerated was, of course, part of Labour's war on individual liberties.
What nonesence,the Police once again prove they are thick as two short planks,takeout the hard drive and scan it using a special programe,the Met and MI5 can do it,why cann't the village idiots up north do it,and the Magistrate isn't fit for purpose.
I too also use very long passwords, and yes, there is something I'm trying to hide, namely my bank details. Here's how I protect it you too can learn from me.
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Those debating the likelihood of forgetting a passphrase are pathetic deracinated fools who love their own slavery and are enemies of the people.
The proper response to a policeman demanding your passphrase is:
"I am an Englishman. Fuck off."
This 'TEEN' lived on the same street as a childrens play area where my two young daughters play. There is only 1 reason he was being investigated and only 1 reason why he wouldn't divulge the necessary details. I'm sure the sentence for child porn would be a lot longer than 6 weeks. Like refusing a blood test for drink driving they should have sentenced him as though he was guilty of whatever he was arrested for in the first place.
" ..There is something not right here." Good call David. Nice piece and v interesting and thoughtful comments
see also http://reg.cx/1L0P
The point has been well made that it was inappropriate of the Lancashire police to insinuate guilt where none was established. Of course that is true, and it was just as true when Mr Drage was tried at Preston Crown Court. However, I hazard a guess that's exactly what happened... in which case the verdict is, of course, tainted and should not be allowed to stand.
In this type of case no evidence or insinuation should ever be allowed as to the reason for the police search request. *That is self-evident elementary jusisprudence*
On a slightly diffenet note, I work for an organisation with its own internal network that has a policy of making you change your password every 3 months from a menu of passwords that they give you, (so that you cannot be compromised by choosing say your child's or pet name & birthday etc) I have to write this down to remember it if I come back from a weeks holiday for example - failure to remeber results in telephoning the IT section to get a temporary administration password, the helpdesk operator greets you by saying "Your new password is available in your email" well guess what - I can't log on without a password!!! You couldn't make it up could you
What a farce. My password is 16 elements long. His was 50 I agree under stress he may well have forgotten it. Perhaps the jury should have tried it before passing a verdict. Whilst I don't want to "mumble the judge" I do think that 16 weeks is kind of excessive.
While I agree with nearly everything you've written here, I think you're barking up the wrong tree over the capitalisation of "TEEN". It's a common house style for press releases and much journalism to capitalise the first word (or, where the first words is very short, the first and second words) in the first paragraph. In this context it may seem inappropriate, but I very much doubt it was a conscious decision to emphasis the word. It may even have been capitalised that way by someone other than the person who originally wrote it.
It is common for security experts to advise users to employ "pass phrases" instead of passwords. Memorising a 50 character sentence is entirely plausible and forgetting it is also quite possible.
I've read most of the PDF code of practice referred to by the CPS in this piece. Nowhere are to be found the words "forget", "forgot", "forgotten" or "unable", although there is one occurrence of the word "incapable". There is language about the effect of the law where the subject is not in possession of or could not have been in possession of the required materials. In these circumstances it is supposedly enough to simply provide whatever materials or information one has in order to comply. So if he'd sat and cooperated with the police as someone suggested, he should have been alright. It seems likely therefore that he did not offer any information other than "I forgot", which is frankly stupid. This does not change my opinion of the law if true. I still think it's dangerous.
I note MP lives close to the same street as a childrens play area. I do hope nobody passes their details together guarded allegations to the police; who'll then slander them to the general public.
Who'll then say "There's only one reason MP is being investigated." Nod, wink.