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An interfaith take on the Pope’s visit

Will the Pope address the impact that the Enlightenment has had on his Church?

I am particularly interested in relations between Jews, Christians and Muslims. With a papal visit to Britain imminent, I wish to reflect on what Pope Benedict XVI has to say -- and, sometimes, on what he doesn't say -- about the relationship between Christianity and other faiths.

Even though he hasn't yet arrived, there has been a great deal of publicity about the Pope's response to the paedophilia scandals that have rocked the Roman Catholic Church; discussions about the state of relations between Rome and Canterbury; coverage of the role of women in the Roman Catholic Church; as well as concerns expressed by people of other faiths about the extent to which the Bishop of Rome acknowledges (if indeed he does at all) the validity of their faith.

I doubt if the Pope will say much about any of these explicitly -- however much journalists would like him to -- but we can try to read the tea leaves when he makes his addresses and delivers his sermons. One thing we can be sure of is that Benedict XVI will warn us of the dangers of secularism, which, he will argue, undermines religion as well as the authority of the Church. He will emphasise Catholic Truth over and against what he will describe as the dangers of atheistic society and moral anarchy.

This is one way of seeing what has happened in western civilisation over the past 400 years, since the Enlightenment. The Pope is not a fan of the Enlightenment. At best, he suggests it is a mixed blessing and hostile to religious belief. In this, he is joined by other religious leaders.

But where would we be without the Enlightenment? As a Jew, I know where I would be: back in the ghetto.

Of course, it is not only Jews who owe a great deal to the Enlightenment. My Muslim friends and colleagues would still be known as Moors or Saracens, an epithet that the chroniclers of the Crusades applied to Muslims. In other words, without the Enlightenment, minority religious groups -- let alone those of no faith -- would have remained in the Middle Ages.

Without the Enlightenment, there would be no human rights nor democracy, but there would be continued Christian anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, persecution of gays and so on.

I don't expect that the Pope will acknowledge that many of the great advances in our society that have been made in the past 400 years have come secularism and the forces of the Enlightenment, not from religion. But I do expect him to address how Catholics should live with the consequences of the Enlightenment.

Some traditionalists in the Roman Catholic Church -- such as members of the Society of St Pius X, home of the Holocaust denier Bishop Williamson, among others -- reject all the values of the Enlightenment. They condemn the Second Vatican Council (1962-65), which was a defining event for Catholicism in the 20th century and a turning point in the history of Jewish-Catholic relations as well as Catholic relations with other faiths.

Vatican II was convened for the purpose of aggiornamento or "updating", and it was in the spirit of Enlightenment that that the council initiated Church reform in a number of areas, including interfaith relations. According to the latest surveys, most Catholics in the UK would like to see more application of the values of the Enlightenment, such as an increased role for women.

So, one thing I expect to learn in the next few days is where the Pope stands on this, the tension between religion and the Enlightenment. In the UK, he will be walking a tightrope between traditionalists who reject the consequences of the Enlightenment and the majority of Catholics, who would like to see Enlightenment values more deeply embedded in the Church.

This will have implications for the role of women in the Church, relations with fellow Christians, fellow believers and fellow humans. Yes, all of us.

Tags: Papal visit 2010

13 comments

Bob's picture

Isn't it strange that left wing writers love to have a dig at the christian religion but ignore the abominations being committed worldwide in the name of islam.
Why is that? Can anyone explain?

Benedict's picture

@Bob

Your assertion is false.

Clem the Gem's picture

Pope Benedict has some interesting things to say against the curse of Moral Relativism, but as an atheist and Social Democrat, I profoundly disagree with him as to what exactly are good and bad things. This at least allows philosophical discourse.
The actions of the Catholic Hierarchy across the globe have been appalling on a number of issues, not least its complicity in the war against its own "Liberation" theologists.
Bob, principled left wingers have been highlighting abominations committed by those who hold faith with any religion for years - including secular religions such as Leninism and Fascism. But that should never blind us to what happens nearer to home.

Dylan's picture

Bob - I agree with Clem the Gem with regards the specious belief that left-wingers are somehow complicit with Islamic extremism.  Maybe this fallacy arrives from the fact that the right-wing media has pretty much got this ground covered - Islamophobia is very much 'their' cause célèbre.

Not that I believe we should oversimplify it as the Left chastising Christians and the Right reproaching Muslims, because when egregious conduct happens nearer to home, neither side can claim ownership.  

The protest by Muslim extremists at the soldiers' homecoming parade in Luton, for example, invoked widespread condemnation from every hue of the political spectrum last year.  It also indirectly led to the formation of the EDL - but then again, that's another story.

Des Demona's picture

;;where the Pope stands on this, the tension between religion and the Enlightenment. In the UK, he will be walking a tightrope between traditionalists who reject the consequences of the Enlightenment ''

Huh? I'm no fan of religion but I'm not sure there are very many UK Catholics who reject the consequences of the Enlightenment.

Or as you put it, would have you back in a ghetto.

As that great philosopher Homer said - 'You're living in the past Marge. Quit living in the past!'

swatantra nandanwar's picture

THe Vatican has suppressed the Enlightenment and Scientific Learning for centuries. They knew Galileo was right but refused to allow his ideas light. They knew Darwin's Theory on Evolution was correct but refused to admit it in public. The Vatican has hidden away in its vaults all the records that it suppressed. We have had very few apologies from them.

jeremiah's picture

The Catholic Church and not lay members is a reactionary and intolerant.

The Church's inability to reform was one of the major causes of the Reformation and other schisms within Christianity.

The Vatican has hoarded great treasures and skeletons in the archives itself describes as "secret".

If the Catholic church wishes to continue as a major player in western christianity it will have to change or continue down the road of irrelevance and ridicule.

Left Is Forward's picture

If people with the kind of mental health disorder that makes them think that their invisible imaginary friend wants them to give lots of money to their secretive, hate-mongering, science-opposing, backwards-looking organisation... then let the fools.

But if this was a truly progressive country, that money ought to be being taxed rather than absurdly treating them as "charities" (if they can't afford rennovation work on their beautiful medieval buildings then I'm sure they can be nationalised and become beautiful museums and art galleries instead); similarly there would be no such thing as a "Church school" or an "Islamic school", all role for religion in education would be removed (and religious indoctrination against evolution or condoms would be vigorously opposed as part of the national curriculum); and on no account should somebody as controversial and dangerous as this man be in the country on a "diplomatic" visit being paid for by the state.

Let him come if he wants to (and let him be arrested and sent to the Hague if that is what the law requires), but let his supporters pay for it, not us, and for goodness sake let them pay VAT on their expensive tickets (and there I was, thinking that salvation was free!) and their churches pay council tax and corporation tax like any other money-thieving organisation.

The Englightenment opposes religion intellectually, that's just a fact and the religious know it (which is partly why they spew out such nonsense to counteract it). This article completely misplaces its attention on "how will the Pope choose to direct the Church's policy towards the Englightenment". That's an irrelevant question - I don't care what the sinister and delusional think is their best strategy, that's for them to decide. For more interesting is the question "What should we, the enlightened and progressive, do about the Church?" Just because the Englightenment is intellectually opposed to superstition doesn't mean we need to be proactively physically and politically opposed to it (just treat it like the nonsense it is), but several factors militate against that: the spread of religion, as a mind-virus, to our young; the fact that this is being state-sponsored in church schools; the danger that this poses to things like basic scientific research (not just anti-evolution but anti-stem cells) and women's rights (anti-contraception, anti-choice). Failing to oppose those thing means that we progressives have actually become entirely complicit in the wrongdoings of religion, because for 13 years a Labour government allowed this state-funded indoctrination to go on unhampered. We need to consider both how quickly we can destroy the forces of ignorance and superstition, and what are the best tools to finish the job that the Enligtenment started... not waste time wondering what one irrelevant religious group thinks about another.

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