Giving the best speech of your life is no good if you have no power to carry it out!
By the way, everyone I know is hard working, unless their retired. At which time they work growing their own vegetables.And helping grandchildren with maths and english.

"We're not an occupying army, we're trying to prevent an occupation."

War is Peace.

All you gloom and doom merchants might like to know that a poll just announced on the Paxman show puts Labour in the lead at 40% The Tories at 39% and the Liberals trailing way behind at 12%. Seems like the Red Ed title isn't really doing the trick either, see the newspapers tomorrow.

Is their not usually a boost in the polls for the party having its conference due to the extra publicity?

If Labour supporters, whatever variant they may be, don't get behind our new leader, how can we expect anyone else to vote for us? We've got a leader now and unless you want this wretched coalition to stay put, start supporting your new leader!

@ Nick, supporting Labour does not mean blindly underwriting it's Leader. No Leader tells thde party what to think he must convince the party and be ready to listen to the party. In the end he is our representative as much as our leader. The party remains whether the leader does or not, the same is not true the other way round.

Although, to be honest, it is only a very small minority of bitter Blairites that are throwing their toys out of their prams. Most people seem to be uniting behind the new leader.

These bitter Blairites need to either get behind the new leader and stop sulking that their man lost. This is not the Labour way.

If you dont support Ed, then at least give him a chance, that would be the Labour way to do, that would be the right thing to do. Don't blindly follow the right wing press.

To be honest I wasn't an Ed supporter, I thought It would be David. I was also, for a while, a Blairite, but as Clem says 'the world has moved on', and as it did, I changed my view. I think your are right Geraint, there are a small number of pram rockers out there who can't get used to their man not getting number 1 spot.

I've listened to a lot of what Ed says and do you know what, the more I hear, the more I like what it is he says. I'm far from blindly following my leader Darren, I'm listening to what the party has said. I think the public will warm more to Ed because he's not some smarmy showman like Cameron or naive Clegg. Ed talks a lot of sense over the upholding of the party viewpoint on social welfare and taking the coalition to task on the cuts, I think he'll do that constructively and not just ambush everything the coalition does or says. The fact he's the quiet and more unspoken one is probably what will help rather than hinder him, it will help forge links again with the 5 million voters we lost, not in the most recent election but in the one before. I believe Ed will turn out out to be a lot more appealing to the electorate than people think; I definitely don't think he'll become the Union's puppet, although he will listen to what they say.

At the end of the day, Ed did adopt a strategy to win the top job, David had the same chance and he lost. There were the same rules for both, so as far as strategy goes Ed got it right. That's good because no shadow leader ever became PM without a good strategy; he gets my support 100% because we have to unite, that is the only way we will ever win.

David's speech was fantastic. He is the real new Leader. It was so obvious.

The Unions broke the rules and posted Ed's picture only out with the ballots. The unions are corrupt and therefore do not have any credibility. I have lost my respect for the unions who did this.

Ed is there as leader by corruption. So he can never be the 'real leader' Enjoy his time while t last.

I hope David does not join the cabinet. Ed is determined to get him in and the sack him. Ed stole David's football when they were younger. I think Ed needs to change his religion and become a christian. He can then go to confession and evelop some humility and honesty that he really hates his brother David. I can understand why he hates David-David is just so good.

Translating the DroneBot from Newspeak into Cleartext:

"Labour politicians want not to practise class war, but to end it" -- filthy lies, these traitors always aimed to make it unilateral, namely one that only their Ruling Class chums are allowed to fight.

"He described Ed as a 'special person'" -- obviously a fraternal code for 'fucking spastic'.

"calls for 'hard-headed internationalism'" -- a euphemism for pig-headed neo-imperialism in the wind-shadow of Uncle Sam as he plumbs the depths of moral, fiscal and intellectual bankruptcy.

"We're not an occupying army in Afghanistan" -- those whom the gods will destroy, they first make mad.

"our foreign armies never end civil wars" -- as we pyromaniac loons are too busy starting new ones.

"When Cameron takes risks for peace, we will be with him all the way" -- Right, lads, double-time lockstep for the march on Tehran, them lippy bastards could bloody well be doing with a quick dose of 'Democratic Cruise(missile)Aid' followed by a nice, cleansing 'civil war' before the damned Chinks grab all our gas buried under their soil.

Ah yes, indeed, more stirring gaseous revolutions from the fetid bowels of the New Labour Zombie. Enough to make any sane voter puke his ring for a thousand years.

Grab the hint, Davey. Just. Die. Now.

Not bad speech, but what he said was only to be expected.

But as Alastair Campbell pointed out in his blog, to expect "no more soap operas" with our mainstream spinning media (Sky and tribe, etc. esp.) about is fantasy really.

David's Speech was amazing, I was there in person and the atmosphere was electric - in fact my hands are still sore from all that clapping.
David is the labour's real leader, that speech demonstrated that clearly.

You Blairites just won't give up will you?, you took over the party in what was basically a coup, now times have changed. I am on the left but I think E/M is genuine, believes in social justice, (the real kind, not the Purnellian version)and is a breath of fresh air after the lies/evasions and petty brutalities of the Blair era.

These great leaders of the workers party- why have none of them had a proper job? How can you represent a party of the people when your entire life has been in Westminster? Labour party supporters are the first to throw this charge at Cameron et el, for being elitist? surely that's better than champagne socialist?

Allie wrote, "Ed isn't going to be PM lets not kid ourselves."

You can't possibly predict what's going to happen in May 2015, if the Lib-Dem/Tory coalition lasts that long. Osborne's cuts over the next four years aren't going to be popular, even with Daily Mail readers.

Allie, I think your "iphone battery's" been dead for a long, long time.

I think you'll find there wasn't a great deal of difference in the proportion of support Ed and Dave received from MPs and party members.

This is a breath of fresh air; finally moving on from slippery, quasi-Thatcherite Blairism. Labour can now re-position iyself as a GENUINE Centre-Left party !

Time will tell what this young man will offer, for once I thought we picked the wrong brother. David is such an intelligent man, with a vision, i can see why the tories are really scared of him, hang in there David your time is coming.

Do I detect a touch of Stockholm Syndrome in Mr Eaton's writings since he went to the Labour Conference?

They were wittering on about taking the party to the centre ground of politics again this morning. I despair. I want DM out of the Shadow Cabinet, he will only be a force for the cosy neo-thatcherism that blew up in New Labour's face and rightly cost them dear.

Allie - we saw what it was like with you in power and we didn't like it. It would have been more of the same David. Perhaps it will still be the same with Ed. It's the mum, of Jews for Justice who should be in charge - that would really shake things up. Not voting Labour again, once bitten, twice shy. These shaymans are mere glove puppets of The Machine.

Civil wars are only solved by political negotiations, David Miliband? That would be news to most Americans. Probably the folks in Sri Lanka too.