What next for Diane Abbott?
Ed Miliband says the Labour left-winger has a “part to play” after the leadership election.
By George Eaton Published 31 August 2010 11:31
It's another busy morning in the Labour leadership election with just a day to go until ballot papers land on party members' doormats.
The Miliband brothers have both criticised Peter Mandelson's astonishingly self-indulgent comments to the Times (£), Ed Balls has unveiled a housing plan that would use a £6bn windfall to build 100,000 extra affordable homes, and Andy Burnham is giving a speech on the NHS in Liverpool, appealing to the Lib Dems to oppose the Tories' break-up of the health service.
But, as on other occasions, it's Diane Abbott, once viewed as the most media-savvy of the candidates, who can't get a look-in. Despite the excitement that greeted her arrival on the ballot paper, Abbott's campaign has lacked momentum and just 11 of the 33 MPs who nominated her are now expected to vote for her. Abbott can bank on firmer support from the grass roots of the party but, as things stand, she may struggle to avoid last place.
However, consolation is at hand from Ed Miliband. Today's Times (£) reports that the younger Miliband has hinted that Abbott deserves a place in the shadow cabinet. At an event in Bethnal Green, east London, last night, Miliband said:
I'm not naming a shadow cabinet . . . that would be seen as presumptuous. And rightly so. But Diane shouldn't just go back to This Week when this is over. She has a part to play.
Miliband's comments may be cited by his brother's camp as another example of his alleged "pandering" to the left, but others would recall Lyndon Johnson's adage that "it's better to have them inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in".
One thing that could change the dynamic of the race is if Abbott does what no candidate has yet done and names a second preference. Could some future role for her be a quid pro quo for her support in the election? It would make a lot of sense.
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31 comments
Could go for Deputy Leader, or Party Chair or London Mayor when they come up, or retreat back to Stoke Newington to spend more time with her constituents.
But I think its more likely she'll do 'a Portillo' and quit Parliament altogether to concentrate on making money in the Media, after her brief 15 minuites of fame.
What's next? (shadow) Home Secretary?
If Dave can coax her to get over her telly-appearing addiction. Oops, freudian slip there.
Diane is the only credible candidate with relatively clean hands who can really close the book on the failed New Labour project. And we urgently need to move away from the old way of doing things; it doesn't work more. People know it doesn't work; they want to see something different.
They use different words to express it but they're all saying the same thing. People I speak to on the doorstep are saying: what's the difference between your lot, the Liberals and the Tories? And it's a good question, what was different about New Labour from the Tories?
We all know there wasn't much between the Tory Liberal and the Labour budget. I think it's about time we put some clear red water between us and the other parties, offering a radical new vision that can inspire people into voting again. Diane can offer that, as well as bring democracy to the Labour constitution to enliven the debate and help avoid the grave mistakes of the past.
She's worth the chance. Who else is there to vote for?
Tony, if people don't know the difference between Labour and Tory post-97 with minimum wage introduced, mainly, then you should now be banging your head against the wall.
These far east terrorist chancer events took advantage of a post-dubious Bush/Republican set up, and it backfired on the Republicans. Blair HAD to follow the Republicans into battle, especially, as mentioned elsewhere, when ozzie youngsters got bombed in Bali in Indonesia in 2002.
It was getting too mad.
Shadow Cabinet jobs are unpaid and very time consuming. Hard Work. Which is why Diane won't even run.
The Minimum Wage was a great policy. New Labour brought us some good policies but those came with huge mistakes that made people feel that we had abandoned our principles. I think people were concerned with single mother's benefits being cut in '97-2000, 10p tax rate, anti-terrorism laws that eroded our civil liberties, deregulation and Labour's dangerous and destructive privatization of the health service. New Labour capitulating to the neoliberal paradigm also resulted in us being one of the hardest hit economies in the West. I could go on. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were the final nail in the coffin after all that took place for most voters.
There is now a real need for radicalism in our thinking. We need new ideas grounded in traditional socialist values. Ed and Ed and Dave and Andy are, in my opinion, far too entrenched in the New Labour institution to provide what we truly need at this point in our history.
Diane is the only one holding a consistently progressive voting record. As someone said above me, she has been proven right on many occasions. And for that she wins my vote.
But Tony, us giving OUR people a better life was taken by those chancer terrorist elements.
Did any of these Islamic-excuse bomb anywhere in Ireland, for instance, the heart of US Republican left-hooker land? No!
They picked on us, because they thought we didn't give them a good home and spat in our faces. Thatcher was to blame for unemployment of northern and midland cities that resulted in these families that came over to fill a labour shortage in the late 1940s onwards to about Heath post-1970 England loss in the World Cup quarter-final in Mecico.
What's my point again? Oh yes, Thatcher caused the 7/7 bombings. QED.
http://www.btinternet.com/~chief.gnome/
And don't you worry, oh yes, the US in some form and our marvellous tory party with their post empire ideas had their sticky fingers well into to fuck England and Bobby Moore in Mexico, which, apparently, is just south of the US, to win the UK election a few days later.
For Bobby Moore and Mexico World Cup, google Columbia with it, and shop,and necklace, or fucking some other jewelery.
Allan Clarke should have played against the germans in the quarters, not that WBA Jeff Astle, though I don't have anything at all against him, rip.
Allan,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt7mN9jMStg
re.above, Leeds beat Arsenal 1-nil in the 1972 centenary FA Cup final. Slaughtered the arse, good and proper. 1- nil was just being Yorkshire polite, the arse were in Leeds pocket that day.
@Freeman
"The Minimum Wage was a signal to the cruddiest employers that they now had a government-approved Maximum Wage for the lowest of the low."
Before the Minimum Wage, there were hotel jobs in Cornwall paying £1.50 per hour. The rise to £3.60 per hour in 1999 made a real difference to those people.
Back on the sofa for Ms Abbot come October. Cruddas will be deputy leader, playing Prescott to Miliband's Blair.
Tony Hazell 'The Minimum Wage was a great policy.'
The Minimum Wage was a signal to the cruddiest employers that they now had a government-approved Maximum Wage for the lowest of the low.
Ed Miliband's pandering to Diane Abbott arguably supports the view of some observers (e.g. Mandelson and me) that, among the boys in the race, he's going for the 'lefter than thou' vote - as elaborated further here http://su.pr/4PL82A and here http://bit.ly/dojuhW
"The Minimum Wage was a signal to the cruddiest employers that they now had a government-approved Maximum Wage for the lowest of the low."
Spot-on. The minimum wage is a disaster.
What about doing something really decent like trying to replace Robert Mugabe !
Right, not sure I follow what people are saying here. But I dislike the presumption of this article, that Diane won't win, when, in fact, she has as much chance as the rest of them.
In fact, she's actually the public choice for Labour leader. http://bit.ly/b13yeg
Gawd, of course she is not in the running, it is one of the Milibands, the one known as Dave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYc-NHYFXX0
After a series of grand mal seizures, I was emergency admitted to my local hospital A and E at 08:00. At 11:50 I was moved to the Emergency Assessment Unit (corridor). The target in A and E is 4 hours. I was seen by a consultant in the EAU at 22:00. When not fitting, I am just extremly tired. The poor staff ran around and were brilliant. I gave my pillow to an old chap as he did not have a pilow. I think I watched the man in the next bed in the EAU die. I saw the hand coloured charts showing the A and E met all its targets. No targets for the EAU. Presentation is all to the tainted four ex ministers.
DWP wants people to phone. They do not give email addresses anymore. To hard to fiddle performance. Phones are good as the call centre sofware tells when targets are about to be missed. The standard approach is to pull people off the line and they call repeatedly, hold for a second and then put the phone down. Sometimes they have to call hundreds of times to get the average down. Real patients have to wait longer and longer but the targets are met. Presentation is all to the tainted four ex ministers. Easy to prove by audit but the tainted four ex ministers loved announcing that they met their targets and are setting tighter targets.
Finally I will say if you deal in shares and make significant money through capital gains Labour have been wonderful. Before Labour, capital gains above the exemption limit was taxed at the personal tax rate as the CGT rate was the high tax rate. You also had to faff around with taper relief. I could not believe Labour changed it to a flat rate 18pc and got rid of the taper relief. You can upload the transaction list of captial gains and losses to the HMRC online. Brilliant. Done in a few seconds. Thank you Lord Mandelson and the other Labour Lords. You certainly looked after the rich. The poor can go hang make obtaining benefits as difficult as possible.
http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatos.html
Even better Labour assisted in the volatility of the markets. Labour screwed up company pensions so dividends have to be cut, assets sold and M and A activity is encouraged to meet the shortfall in company pensions. Holding financial assets for long periods is stupid. You make money on the rollacoaster and the holders of long term funds suffer. Look at most people's annual personal pension statement while Labour was in power. Savings bring no return due to QE and the inflation wave about to hit us. Gold 2000 USD by 2011 Q1 anyone? Labour has well looked after the handful of rich who contribute to party funds and all the others have suffered.
My wallet tells me to vote for one of the tainted four ex ministers but my Epicurean philosphy says DA. She is closest to knowing how the poor are suffering. She will ask for the independent audits and accounts that the tainted four ex ministers reviewed with a Nelsonian eye. The coalition might do her job for her. I can see her join the Lib Dems or the Greens. The Labour of the incompetent 13 years is not the party for DA it has been the party of the very rich. Can DA change the party? I hope so building her team from the untainted.
Labour should be saying what they will do for the most needy in society and what they will do to protect people from explotation. All else is secondary to a true Labour party. The 4 tainted ex ministers are still not Labour and never likely to be.
It is not down to DA alone, but to all of us to throw out the rubbish.
Has DA said anything about Labour's Welfare Reform Act 2007 and the operation of "disability denial factories"?
Has DA said anything about "Atos Healthcare, part of Atos Origin, cheating the sick by providing unsound medical advice to the DWP"?
http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatoscases.html
Has DA said anything about "Atos Healthcare, part of Atos Origin, cheating the disabled veterans by providing unsound medical advice to the SPVA"?
http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatosveterans.html
Has DA mentioned that the DWP estimates of fraud are tiny and falling and benefit fraud is less likely than winning a prize in the lottery?
I read Hansard and yes she did mention the abuse of the dying, the sick, the disabled and their carers. None of the four tainted ex ministers said a thing.
http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Documents/GetInvolved/Campaigns/Benefits/Fai...
She already does a great deal of good where she is, with her casework as an MP for one of the poorest constituencies in the South, and with the freedom to offer eloquent and frank criticisms of party policy from the left.
She can better perform the latter of those two important duties now that her profile's risen as a result of her participation in this contest (and that may well prove an incentive for any future leader to neutralise her by bringing her into the shadow cabinet).
Her presence in the contest has doubtless had an influence in moving the debate away from the right-wing excesses of New Labour. Her answers to various questions at the New Statesman hustings were by far the best received of any of the candidates. And unlike the other candidates, in respect of the two big issues of New Labour's time in government, neoliberalism and foreign policy, she has enjoyed the advantage of being right, and being proven to have been right.
It would be a bit of a waste of all that to place her in some junior role in the shadow cabinet where she would be expected to toe a party line that will inevitably drift rightward again as time goes on. Far better to have her on the backbenches, deploying her energy and talents in keeping the party honest.
wake up poeple whoever gets in will make the rich richer and the poor poorer. I've worked with mps from both sides and they are full of shit!!! until you sheep wake up things will only get worse bbbbaaaaaahhhhh!!!!
Whats next for Dianne? Deputy Leader of course!
Her fat arse planted firmly on the backbenches where it belongs.
PS. What is all this Deputy Leader crap?
Harman would have to fall under a bus before there was a vacancy!
Diane should get the defence portfolio
refuse the trident money
I think if Dianne Abbott doesn't win, or even if she does, she has more than a part to play in future. This is because she is a woman and in my view is entitled to a new and real deal generally in this world. Women don't need to play any silly parts anymore and given a proper job in the labour party perhaps Dianne Abbott could kindly stop playing around in the media and show us what she is truly capable of. So I think it's important she is older and probably wiser and more experienced re: the ins and outs of the Parliamentary scene than the other candidates for leadership. She hasn't been stuck in the No 10/ cabinet bubble and as such she may well be closer and feel more at home with the source of real power ie the really common citizen and other Parliamentary workers. Ultimately, another woman P.M is just what we need I think.
i'm glad dianne abbots in the mix she's put her head above the para(noid)pit as much as we all hate to admit it the labour party needs to come at the coalition government by stealth.all the other candidates can be read like an open book.the other parties will pick them off because they use the same rhetoric book as coalition do.either way we look at it what has labour to lose.re alignment in politics is reqd because all the parties to a degree are similar
It's probably best for Diane that she retreats to the back benches and the comfort of the 'This Week' sofa after her brief moment in the sun, lest her lack of true political talent is exposed in the harsh limelight of the future shadow cabinet. Sorry, Diane, but we need less media-hungry self-servers, not more.
Diane Abbott is an out-and-out hypocrite and no-brain gas-bag. I seriously hope she becomes the leader of the Labour Party, though that's less likely than her being asked to advertise Weight Watchers.
Glad to see the anti-Dianne camp are using reasoned argument, and not idiotic size jokes. That would be a bit stupid, wouldn't it?