Anglicans obsess about gay bishops -- yet again
It’s time to move on from pettiness and prurience.
By Sholto Byrnes Published 08 July 2010 12:59
I used to know a couple of journalists who took such an obsessive and prurient interest in whether people they wrote about were homosexual or not that gay colleagues wondered if this supposedly straight pair were themselves harbouring secretive same-sex desires.
The same appears to apply to the Church of England and the worldwide Anglican Communion, many of whose members give the impression that nothing matters more to them than what their priests get up to in the privacy of their own bedrooms.
I refer, of course, to the news that Jeffrey John, the Dean of St Albans, has been blocked from becoming Bishop of Southwark after being shortlisted for the post -- because he is gay. This is the second time he has been deprived of the opportunity to wear a mitre, as he had to stand down after being appointed suffragan Bishop of Reading in 2003 on the same grounds.
What makes the current fuss all the more absurd is that John, though in a long-term partnership, is celibate -- which means he doesn't get up to anything in his bedroom anyway. As William Oddie, a former Anglican priest and ex-editor of the Catholic Herald, writes for that newspaper:
The point about Dr John is that he is "celibate": and by that he means that he and his long-term partner are chaste, that they abstain from any kind of sexual act. In other words, his behaviour is entirely consistent with Article 2359 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which teaches that "Homosexual persons are called to chastity" and that "By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom . . . they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection".
In other words, his behaviour is an example of chastity for other homosexuals to follow, not an encouragement to clerical promiscuity. Dr John is a man of integrity . . . if the Anglican Church is split from top to bottom over his appointment to Southwark (which I trust will now take place) it deserves to be, as a punishment for its gross theological incoherence.
If Dr John had been appointed to the see of Southwark, he would have followed in the footsteps of Mervyn Stockwood, another gay but celibate bishop whose colourful and campaigning style led him to enjoy a public popularity and renown few prelates could hope for today. We have even had a far more senior Church figure -- David Hope, the former archbishop of York -- admitting that his sexuality was "a grey area". Really, one can't help but feel that the C of E has far bigger problems on which to concentrate.
Or is it, as a column in the Times put it a few years ago, that: "Homophobia really does mean fear of the same. Look at those institutions in Britain most hostile to equality for gay men and women -- the Church of England and the Tory party. One thing unites them. Gay people are strikingly over-represented in their ranks."
But, the article goes on to argue,
if homosexuality were an elementary matter of free will, there would be every reason for both the Conservative Party and the Church to smile on its embrace. It is seldom observed, as it should be, that one of the principal reasons fiercely liberal New York turned Republican is that its nightclubbing, high-earning, aesthetically conscious gay citizens were those most agitated about violent street crime, wasted taxes and urban squalor in Manhattan. It is rarely noticed, as it should be, that homosexual clergy, unencumbered by family and animated by compassion, are those most likely to be found in those difficult urban areas of London or Liverpool where the Gospel most needs to be heard.
That goes for Southwark, too. Perhaps opponents of John's appointment might care to discuss that with the author of the article. Their paths are quite likely to cross at some point, after all, as faith schools come under his purview -- for the piece was written by none other than that hard man of the traditionalist right, the Education Secretary, Michael Gove.
If he can take that view, isn't it time Anglicans grew up?
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11 comments
Ebere: You are as mixed up intellectually as your name would suggest.
If the church would stop inflicting pain then there would be no reason for the church. Just like if the church taught us that we also are Gods as Jesus also taught, then there would be no need for a God. We would accept all responsibility ourselves and then there would be no victims and villains. We would be responsible for our own thoughts and creation of our thoughts.
We would be in the essence of self-realization of who we are. Our equal to God status would be experienced through the unconditional love the we give.
Michael
@Steve
As far I know, the Catholic Church does not regard homosexuality per se to be sinful. In other words, being gay is not sinful. It is homosexual acts that are sinful. So, I don't see what your problem is.
This man is gay, but he is celibate.
As far as I know, gay people have DNA as do the rest of us. If we would only stop categorizing humans as first rate, second rate..., unfit and so forth.
This 'Rev' comedy on BBC whatever seems quite funny, when I saw it last night.
So what is this about poufters? said the Archbishop.
@ Steve
"Third, he is in a relationship that, according to gays, is equalivalent to marriage."
But surely it doesn't matter to the church what gays think, does it?!. The church robustly asserts that civil partnerships are definitely NOT a marriage.
It seems that the church want it both ways, but only when it suits.
Orientation cannot be "sinful". For example, I may have an inclination and desire to steal or murder, but if I resist the urge to carry out the act then surely I have not committed a "sin".
I dispair of the church, I really do!
"You cannot be gay and a celibate at the same time" ?! Nonsense.
"Why are you mis-using Catholic doctrine to prove your point?"
Nonsense.
As an educated (BD from St Partrick's Ponitfical College, Maynooth & an LSS from the Biblicum in Rome) Catholic, I can affirm that RC doctrine does indeed explicitly stress that homosexuality, in itself, is not sinful. Homosexual acts, of course, are a different matter (cf. "Declaration on Certain Questions Concerning Sexual Ethics" n. 8, sect. 4, 1975 & Catechism of the Catholic Church §2357)
Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13 in the Old Testament & I Cor 6:9, Rom 1:18-32 & I Timothy 1 all hold a line that people who ACT in a homosexual fashion are excluded from the Kingdom of God (although this is an entirely NT phrase) but these same scriptural excerpts specifically do NOT condemn those who who are orientated that way.
However, while Jeffrey John is in a non-sexual relationship with his partner, this is not, at least n Catholic terms, a celibate relationship (cf. Code of Canon Law Can. 277 §1- Can. 289 §1). They are different things I'm afraid.
Hence, subscribing to Catholic doctrine to justify Jeffrey John's position is rather inaccurate.
Ask yourself this, would a Catholic priest be allowed live with another layman, a lover?
Why are so many clergymen gay? What about being a clergyman attracts gays disproportionately? No wonder the "profession" is increasingly marginalized and treated as a joke; clergy have basically become window dressers for god.
Just by the by, Jeffrey John is Church of England. C of E priests are permitted to be married and they don't actually have to be chaste, although I'm not sure how that applies to gay priests.
This does all seem somewhat like the US Marines banning promotions for men with shaved heads though.
Why are you mis-using Catholic doctrine to prove your point? First of all, he does not deny his orientation. Second, he celebrates it. Third, he is in a relationship that, according to gays, is equalivalent to marriage. A Catholic priest cannot be married so, if according to W. Oddie, he is acting against Catholic doctrine and thus is ineligible to be "an example" to follow. I applaud that Mr. John is "out" but I am appalled that he is demanding that his orientation is not sinful.
A request for anyone who responds...please to do not refer to other people's sins as a defense against this. It is weak and is not the point. Everyone is with sin but that does not mean that Christians have to condone it or celebrate it.
You cannot be gay and a celibate at the same time. please you guys should not misquote catholic doctrine in defense of this Soddom and Gomorah`s act. Catholic priests are celibates; they are not GAY! and should not in away be compare with gay Anglican priest.dont forget that the Bible said, `` In the begining God made them Male & Female `` Bible did say God made them Male & Male or Female & Female.For a man of God to peach the word and in practice turn it upside down is DEMONIC. people should beware!!!