Arab musicians threatened by Hamas

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/05/27/109744.html

@ writeoff: "I agree with your statement that the USA should "protect its boarders". I think there's hope for you yet."

What?

@AI "Such gleaming examples of human rights and democracy!" Well yeah they are. At least that's what the NewStatesman think anyway.

"P.S. Actually in Iran they speak Farsi (Persian), and aren't Arabs. Just, you know, for info." Actually, yes you are right my mistake Farsi is the national language of Iran, and most Iranians aren't Arab. Which is why most Iranians that I know and talk to hate Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah establishment.

@Dancer: "@Concerned,Venezuela has over 40 languages, and Spanish certainly aint one of the indigenous ones. In Iran there are six language groups, of which the Persian language group is the largest (and Farsi the largest language in that)- Arabic is a minority language.

Additionally, keeping America a Christian nation is a laughable argument, seeing as how it's a secular state (or at least that was the intention of the founding fathers)."

Oh wow Venezuela has over 40 languages, Iran has six, but that's way less than the 337 languages spoken in the US. But no that number can't be right, the US is supposed to be a monolingual country. I bet you it's the Jews messing with our heads again. I bet you it is. It's always them.

And when did I ever talk about religion? Or even intimidate that point?

oh silly nicholas .....as if you love the majority of English people who disagree with you.....You brought your kind of law to India.What a joke to bring that up when you are scared of foreigners bringing Sharia law to England.And where do I say that i did not know there were Muslim nazi units but in case you dont know the vast majority of Nazis remained Christian.You try and label and demonize Muslims and cant see that Hitler was part of your saxon heritage,beer drinking savage tribes who conquered out of greed not because of a will to help dysfuntional colonies.What an idiot you must be who lives in cloud cuckoo land.Hitler also only took Muslims into the SS at the end of the was when he was short of manpower.He had no choice.Grandparents my arse.England invaded India 250 years ago how old do you think my grandparents are?Why do you think every nation that you in your perversity believe Enfgland did good for remebers the British Empire as evil.?Its payback time .You can start by sending back all the treasures you have looted to all the colonies you have stolen from.Who says India wanted British unity,Maybe you might want to ask the 250 indigenous nations of Australia and the 1000 indigenous tribes of North America wether they wanted your British enforced unity.The only second rate thing about England is you.....and you unbelievable arrogance .You have no empire mate.You rely on communist China to keep your economy afloat and all you do is preach hate.Go to hell wether thats a Muslim or Christian hell I dont really mind.Just go

Morrigan

In the 1930's people went marching around the east end saying Jews were alien/ non British/ taking over the world/ formed no go areas. The first immigration restriction laws were applied to Jews

You go to the demos, let them take over then you'll be killed/ deported after the Muslims.... Blacks .... Hispanics .... Southeast Asian, Non Muslim South Asians, South Europeans....

Don't worry I'll be booking my flight when I sense the downhill spiral

To "Joe" who I am assuming is the same "Joe" who is the administrator of the EDL Jewish division Facebook group.

"Funny how Ed USoB is just spamming the New Statesmen with his own site. A site that no-one's heard of.."

Which is the reason why the EDL tried to imitate them?
http://1millionunited.org/blogs/blog/2010/06/01/edl-english-dishonesty-l...

"It's strange how none of the reports of the Dudley demo showed the sikh lady giving a speech, or the little russian girl and her speech."

Sorry the little Russian girl that was cynically exploited by the EDL, how old was she? 10? 12? The EDL members regularly bring young children to their "protests" where they are exposed to vulgar language, which demonstration was it where EDL members knocked down metal fences? As for the "Sikh" lady, I'll leave to other readers to find out the truth behind "Sikhs against Sharia" not only are their anti-Islam comments hilarious so is their grasp of Sikhism.

"..since beginning of March (demos at London, Bolton and Dudley), far more muslim-supporters were arrested than were EDL.."

Ok so we've found out your real view, anyone opposed to the EDL are now "Muslim supporters"? I thought the EDL were only against the "extremist" Muslims? Funny how the EDL say one thing yet many of their members believe another? If senior figures within the EDL can't get their story straight how we expect the ordinary member to know exactly what you guys are opposing?

"Why is it muslims are allowed to use an offensive term to refer to us, yet we (quite rightly) are not allowed to use an offensive term to refer to muslims?"

Kuffar is a genuine word in Arabic which simply means "disbeliever" the same way "gentile" refers to a non-Jew, it can be used in a derogatory context and the word I prefer is non-Muslim, it depends on the context that the word is used. The word "muzzie" however is always offensive and designed to cause offence. It is not a real word and there is no legitimate usage of it.

As for the "Sikh" (Guramit Singh) who said Muslims will burn in hell on the spur of the moment, this is the same "Sikh" who in the Guardians' undercover reporting said and I quote:

"Bradford will be huge. The problem with Bradford is the security threat, it is a hight populated Muslim area. They are very militant aswell. It don't take f@cking much for those P@kis to walk in there and set a bomb off"

It is not the first time he has made racist remarks, he has been caught making them several times yes the EDL claims to kick out racists, they can not tell me why they have not removed Guramit Singh from the leadership position within their organisation and it is quite evident that the EDL are only going to Bradford in order to create tension and instigate violence.

I really could go on but the EDL are digging their own grave, I am glad that other communities are not falling for their propaganda.

Dear Juniper,
If I quoted wikipedia - which so obviously offends you - was solely for the reason that I don't wish to be seen as quoting any 'liberal', 'lefty' media as you might elonquently put it.
As for my knowledge of pre-Nazi Germany, it is - unfortunately for you - vast enough to have spent 2 years studying it at University. I'm not calling anyone a Nazi, I'm identifying the similarities of the breeding ground and rethoric of National Socialism to the EDL's. And if you knew anything about it, it wo
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/06/jewish-bigotry-is...

As a British Jew, it's about time the leaders condemned the EDL, it's like the NF was anti semitic, the EDL/BNP is Islamophobic. If Jews join the EDL, it will cause tensions between the larger Jewish population who do not support the EDL and the Muslim population. It's like when Israel does something wrong, Jews are blamed for it, we need to distance ourselves from the EDL and disassociate ourselves.

@ConcernedCitizen

"Which is why most Iranians that I know and talk to hate Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah establishment."

That would be the Persian Shia establishment, would it? I shan't deign to reply to your barb about the NS.

So much hatred ... so many mislead people ... so many narrow minded view points ... fear is the enemy ... the truth is that we are all the same ... we are humanity, trying to make sense of the world and our lives ... we are humanity; we are people who live on Earth ... we are like children who really can not understand the complexity of this infinite Universe ... we have all been
primed or programmed to think; to speak; to be in a particular state of mind that thinks it knows what is right or true ... Please, calm down ... stop racing ahead .... understand that you know nothing ... nothing ... all human history is our history ...
You Are WE Am i ... and please remember that Fear is the enemy ... so much to say but i must go now ... kind regards to all my human
brothers and sisters.

I've never understood patriotism, racism, or the right in general. All nuts, imo, and, in this case, looking for trouble.

@BliarBlair - normally I'd agree with your comment, but in this case they (the Board of Deputies) have a good point.

I hate racists, and fascists, and communists, and Islamists. Love England, and support the EDL. Oh, I support Israel as well, whether they want me to or not!

This problem is not of the EDL's making, its the governments'. If you are down at the grassroots level instead of in your ivory towers and protected communities you would have very different outlook on this huge problem. Once again its the WORKING people who are having to bear the brunt of this misjudgement and BAD planning in immigration policy. Its v precarious to have to negotiate your way through predominately muslim areas if you are non muslim and this is absolutely outrageous and at times v frightening. This IS the story pure and simple. Non muslim people are being driven from their homes by anti social behaviour and apparently they are supposed to lie 'down and give in when their door is kicked in'. The muslims MUST learn to rectify the behaviour of those amongst them ( and its a considerable number unfortunately)who intimidate and abuse non muslims. Its AWAYS easy to fling the 'racist, fascist' label at people who have hardly a racist bone in their bodies, but who are frightened, and overwhelmed at the abuse they receive ( me and my son included). We are then told we are not allowed to say anything about it, and then this just throws fuel on a smouldering fire and makes the perpetrators clap their hands gleefully. IS IT NOT POSSIBLE THAT IT IS THE MUSLIMS WHO ARE THE RACISTS? Since we are constantly subject to racist comments flung at us, simply because we are of white skin and different religion? The time for dialogue over this is long gone, and peoples' concerns have been ignored, therefore abandoned people feel desperate and will come out from the wall 'all guns blazing'. Revolution is never far away, it only takes all the right conditions to arrive, and in England, all those conditions are almost complete.BTW, jewish people have NEVER been abusive and their behaviour is exemplary. This cannot be said for a certain section of the muslim community. The muslims MUST fix this themselves.

@ConcernedCitizen

"In Saudi Arabia and Iran they speak Arabic. In Venezuela they speak Spanish."

Such gleaming examples of human rights and democracy!

Dancer, what are you talking about? Get your "facts" straight.

Where is the quote and reference for people who don't eat pork etc, from an official EDL site?

J

[The EDL is an organisation that has to constantly try to prove that it is *not* racist - surely there is a reason why people perceive it as such, maybe because of all the racial and religious hatred that does the rounds on its Facebook page and forum?]

Or is it perhaps because they have to constantly keep educating people like you, who mistake a legitimate enemy with delusions of racial or religious hatred?

Most Jews DO support the EDL. The Jews in the UK have a lefty leadership who are simply scared to upset Mislems in General. Thats fine as most are OK, but lots of Jews know that in 25 years time England will be radically Islamified. Jews have a common enemy with the English and the rest of Europe. Its just that some Jews are a little worried that the EDL has many old NF members which in the past had Nazi anti Jewish views. Maybe they have grown up though and seen that Englands enemies are certainly not jews but Islamics. If the EDL could completly distance itself from the BNP and the NF, then the Vast VAST majority of jews would support it and probabaly join. I know many Jews that have gone on the EDL's demos. After all, British Jews are very British and hate Islamic Extremism. They also support Israel who is getting the brunt of Islamic Extremism and they know if Israel falls the rest of the west is next. I say good on the EDL and good that they fly some Israeli flags.

Al 00.25

Here's a helpful tip, dont be a pedantic asshole all your life, son.

Just try, eh ?

These leftist media stories are so silly and far from the truth. The EDL are merely wanting to protest violent Islam. If Muslims react, it just demonstrates the truth of the EDL's position.

If a group of gays protested in front of a Cathedral, would it cause the Christians to violently riot? Of course not.