this is so bizarre!

if you actualy listen to what peter said with out putting your spin on it , LORD MANDLESON IS CORRECT , THATS BASIC POLITICAL SCIENCE , BLAIR HAD TO MOVE LABOUR TO THE RIGHT TO GET ELECTED WHY , BECOUSE THATCHER HAD MOVED US SO AFR TO THE RIGHT , OLD LABOUR FRIGHTEND PEOPLE .ITS THE SAME NOW FOR CAMRON HES TRYING TO BE NU LABOUR LITE SO AS NOT TO FRIGHTEN THE HORSES , SO DOFFRENT IS THE COUNTRY NOW SINCE THE DAYS OF THATCHER , CAMRONS DOING ALL HE CAN NOT TO REMIND PEOPLE OF THE NASTY PARTY . so sir instead of being so biased against mandy and quick to judge think about what peter said . its the truth , its history, ill tell you why labour is still in it BECOUSE THIS IS THE FIRST ELECTION I CAN REMEMBER WERE THE VOTERS ARNT LETTING THE MEDIA BRAINWASH THEM INTO VOTEING FOR WHO EVER . and i think labours a little higer than they are letting on . 36% lab 36% con in the marginals held bye labour . now thats not spin thats the truth , bbc reported in their marginals poll .released yesterdy. good luck peter good luck to the GREAT PEOPLES PARTY . THE MINIMIUM WAGE , CHILD CARE, SURE START , IMPROVED HEALTH CARE ,BETTER EDUCATIONAL OPERTUNITIES . ALL THESE THINGS AND MORE DAVED CANRON AND HIS BLUE BELLEYS VOTED AGAINST ALL THESE THINGS . DONT NO ONE TELL ME LABOUR HASENT DONE ALOT SINCE THE NASTYS LEFT OFFIVE IN 1999 . KEEP THE CAMRONS CON PARTY OUT VOTE LABOUR .

PM always reminds me of the cobra in 'Jungle Book', with those hypnotising eyes. PM was the master of spin. GB is right not to slag off his colleagues in his book.

Yeah, yeah, but the point is the poor will be even worse off if the Tories get into power.

gorden, you disgust me.

I TOLD YOU THERE WOULD BE A LATE SWING BACK TO THE LABOUR PARTY YOUGOVE HAS THEM ON 31% TORIES 34% LIBDEMS 24% . NOW IM NOT ONE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO , BUT I TOLE YOU ALL SO . VOTE LABOUR OT VOTE TACTICAL VOTEING IN LIB CON OR LABOUR CON MARGINALS . COME ON TOGETHER WE LABOUR AND LIB DEMS HAVE OVER 60% ,70% IF YOU COUNT OUR GREEN FRIENDS . LETS USE OUR HUGE VOTE % TO KEEP OUT LITLE MARGRT nd his conservitives . the media , the tories all just a distraction now , were gaining , and together we will crush the tories .

Whoever wins the election, the poor will be worse off, because there are going to be massive cuts in government spending, along Greek lines. And, anyway, who gives a damn about the poor, really? Do they even bother to vote, or have any real power?

What's frightening is how little has changed for the poor, consdering how much effort Brown has put into reducing the most blatant aspects of poverty in Britain and an economic boom. This is because, despite it all, there are other, more powerful economic trends that virtually wipe out all the progress, so one ends up running on the spot in a desparate attempt not to be pushed backwards even faster.

writeon, crap as Labour is, it will worse for the poor if Tories get in. That is the point.

I'm really not so sure about the argument that the poor are really that much better off under a New Labour government than under the Tories. How much better off, and is it worth swallowing so much crap from Labour just to help the poor?

Anyway, are the poor at the centre of the election capaign? I don't really notice the triplets arguing fiercely about how they intend to raise the poor up at the expense of the rich this time around.

In truth, the poor don't matter anymore in UK politics. They are merely a kind of political totem one mentions on occassion in order to garner sympathy and show that one has a heart and is not completely without morality. Yet the poorest in our society have been effectively sent to a kind of internarl exile, where they are tolerated and expected to keep quite and not disturb the rest of merry, middle, England, by turning into a mob.

The reason we have so many poor people in Britain is because they serve a useful socio-economic purpose. They there to impose discipline. They are like a living, breathing, warning and detterent; look what could happen to you if you don't keep in line; and yet, paradoxically they are almost invisible most of the time.

If... if one was really serious about irradicating poverty, which is incredibly wasteful and unproductive, yet, as outlined above, serves a very useful purpose, as the last thirty years of Thatcherite policies prove beyond doubt; then one could do it over a twenty-five year period. But, but, but, one can't do it without a genuine transfer of wealth downwards towards the poor, so they would have the economic and social resources that would enable them, over time, to adopt middle-class values.

One cannot, as New Labour seems to think, have a middle-class culture, without a middle-class income and resources, or something along those lines.

LORD MANDALESON IS AWSOME THE CONS AND THEIR RIGHT WING MEDIA HACKS DISLIKE HIM , BECOUSE NO BODY KICKS CON BLUE ARSE LIKE MANDY . THANKS PETER . LETS KEEP GOING LETS GET THIS UP BYE A FEW % . LITTLE MARGET AND HIS BAND OF TORIES HAVENT GOT A CHANCE. IF THE 66% OF the vote , LAB LIB DEM VOTERS IF THE VOTE WITH THEIR HEADS . LIB con marginal VOTE LIB DEM , LAB CON MARGINAL VOTE LABOUR . 66% IF YOU INCLUDE THE GREENS AS WELL DONT WANT A BAR OF THE CON PARTY. PLEASE LETS NOT DO WHAT WE DID IN 1987 LETS KEEP THE NASTY PARTY OUT.IF WE DO THIS IN THE MARGINALS THE TORIES ARE COOKED . THE NATINAL POLL MEANS LITTLE , IN THE MARGINALS ITS LAB 36% CON PARTY 36% LIB DEMS LOWER NO DISREPECT INTENDED CANT RECALL THEIR % THIS IS LABOUR CON PARTY MARGINALS . SEE WHY ITS WELL WORth
VOTEING WITH OUR HEADS ON MAY 6TH .david camrons like george bush they talked of conservitive with compassion . now lets get the hell out there and fight these last 2 days with all we have got against the real dark side little margret and his conservitives. you know if all the cons can do is cobble together 35% of the vote and falling, after being out in the cold 4 15 years HAS NOT SEALD THE DEAL . GOOD LUCK I DETECT A LATE SURGE OF A FEW % TO LABOUR I REALT DO .PS THAT MP THAT DISSED BROWN NO MATTER WHAT PARTY THEY ARE FROM THAT DO THAT PUBLICLY ARE WEAKLINGS AND SHOW THEY ARE OF LITTLE CHARACTOR TO LEAT THEM SELVES . HES FILLED WITH THE AFLICTION OF DISLOYALTY . HE WHO WOULD LEAD MUST FIRST LEARN TO FOLLW .