Health debate: New Statesman and Pfizer host special debate

“Taking Care of Health” forum brings together the politicians Andy Burnham, Norman Lamb and Mark Sim

In the latest of a series of influential debates and special reports, the New Statesman, in collaboration with Pfizer, has put together a Policy Forum to discuss the challenges and opportunities facing those working in health care in the UK.

On our panel we have Andy Burnham (Secretary of State for Health), Mark Simmonds (shadow health minister, Conservative Party) and Norman Lamb (shadow spokesperson for health, Liberal Democrats). They are joined by the writer and broadcaster Ed Stourton, a founder journalist on Channel 4 News and presenter of Radio 4's Today programme.

Professor Terence Stephenson, president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, wants to ask each representative what his plans are, if he were to become secretary of state for health after the election, to use the 2010 Olympics to improve the health of children in the UK.

Zack Cooper, health economist at the London School of Economics, says:

The NHS is one of the only health systems in the world that is free at the point of use. Every shred of evidence suggests that if users don't have to pay, people will consume more health care and worry less about their individual health. Do you agree? And how can the NHS make individuals more conscious of their own lifestyle choices and be aware that health-care resources are finite?

Deborah Alsina of Bowel Cancer UK says: "In the current difficult economic climate, preventing cancer from developing not only saves lives, but also makes good financial sense . . . I would like to know from each speaker what steps their party will take to incorporate the [flexible sigmoidoscopy] test into the current bowel screening programmes as part of a strategy to prevent cancer."

And Louise Kirsh, parliamentary officer for Mind, wants to find out more about plans to tackle the stigma and discrimination "that affects nine out of ten people with mental health problems".

"Taking Care of Health" will also feature representatives from organisations including Civitas, Bupa and Macmillan Cancer Support, and takes place today from 2pm at Bishop Partridge Hall in Westminster.

An extended editorial feature covering the debate will be published online with the New Statesman issue of Monday 10 May.

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Carwyn Jones is preparing for a fight with the UK government

From Labour's soft-nationalist wing, Jones has thought carefully about constitutional politics. 

This week's 20th anniversary of the 1997 Yes vote on devolution in Wales was a rather low-key affair. But then while there are plenty of countries around the world that celebrate an Independence Day, few nations or regions around the world would make much fuss about "Partial Autonomy Day".

The most important single event of the day was, almost certainly, the address by First Minister Carwyn Jones at the Institute of Welsh Affairs’ 20th anniversary conference. The sometimes diffident-seeming Welsh Labour leader has rarely been on stronger form. Much of his speech was predictable: there were his own recollections of the 1997 referendum; some generous reflections on the legacy of his now-departed predecessor, Rhodri Morgan; and a lengthy list of identified achievement of devolved government in Wales. But two other features stood out.

One, which might have struck any observers from outside Wales was the strongly Welsh nationalistic tone of the speech. In truth this has long been typical for Jones, and was a very prominent element of the successful Labour general election campaign in Wales. A fluent Welsh-speaker and long a part of the soft-nationalist wing of Welsh Labour, the First Minister briefly considered what would have been the consequences of the achingly-close 1997 ballot having gone the other way. Wales, we were told, would no longer have had the right to be considered a nation – it might even (gasp!) have lost the right to have its own national football team. But this theme of the speech was also linked to devolution: why should Wales not have parity of treatment on devolved matters with Scotland?

The most striking feature of the speech, however, was the confidence and combativeness with which the First Minister set about attacking the UK government on constitutional matters. This territory has often appeared to be the area which most animates Jones, and on which he is most comfortable. He has clearly thought a great deal about how to protect and develop the constitutional status of devolved Wales. The First Minister was clearly deeply unimpressed by the UK government’s handling of Brexit as a whole, and he linked Brexit to broader problems with the UK government’s approach to the constitution. Brexit was declared in the speech to be the "biggest threat to devolution since its inception" – and the audience were left in no doubt as to where the blame for that lay. Jones was also clearly very comfortable defending the joint stance he has taken with the Scottish National Party First Minister of Scotland, in opposing the EU Withdrawal Bill and much of the UK government’s approach to Brexit negotiations. This high level Labour-SNP cooperation – extraordinary, given the otherwise utterly toxic relations between the two parties – was argued to be the necessary consequence of the UK government’s approach, and the threat of a power-grab by Westminster of powers that are currently devolved. 

Finally, the First Minister had one new card up his sleeve. He was able to announce a Commission on Justice in Wales, to be chaired by a figure of impeccable authority: the soon-to-retire Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, John Thomas. The clear intention of the Welsh government seems to be to use this commission to advance their agenda of a distinct Welsh legal jurisdiction. This is another matter on which there appears to be little current common ground with the UK government.

Carwyn Jones emerged from the general election as a greatly strengthened figure: having led the Labour campaign in Wales when it appeared that the party might be in difficulty, he deservedly accrued much political capital from Welsh Labour’s success in June. The First Minister has been thinking imaginatively about the UK constitution for some years. But for a long time he failed even to carry much of the Welsh Labour party with him. However, he succeeded in having many of his ideas incorporated into the Labour UK manifesto for June’s election; he is no longer a voice crying out in the wilderness. On the anniversary of devolution, Jones said little that was wholly new. But the combination of everything that he said, and the tone and confidence with which he said it, was striking. This was not the speech of a man looking to back away from a confrontation with the UK government. Wales seems up for a fight.

Roger Scully is Professor of Political Science in the Wales Governance Centre at Cardiff University.