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"Jesus was a lefty"

So says a Daily Mail star writer. Why will that annoy lefties so much?

I have been wondering for some time when the opportunity would arise to discuss whether Christianity has an inherently left-wing message. Now it has -- and from an unexpected quarter. The Daily Mail's parliamentary sketchwriter, Quentin Letts, may be an occasional contributor to the NS, but it is fair to say that he is viewed with some suspicion in bien-pensant circles. He has been accused of snobbery, homophobia, misogyny and of making fun of Harriet Harman (though why that should be a cause of dismay, I cannot say). I, on the other hand, can personally vouch for Quentin's many estimable qualities. But be that as it may. He is unquestionably a Tory.

And that is why I found it so interesting that in his new book, Bog-Standard Britain, Quentin writes the following:

Jesus preached fairness -- you could almost call him a Lefty . . . Christianity has a redistributive message yet the professionals of egalitarian Britain are twitchy about organised religion. They cannot bear the thought of a hierarchy of priests speaking from raised pulpits, bending down to the faithful to impart mercy. Hey, that's the secular state's role.

Now it may be clear that Quentin has other targets in mind, but that does not alter his acknowledgement of what I have always felt: that the tenets of Christianity must lead anyone who takes them seriously to incline towards political views that most often find expression in parties of the left. I remember coming back from Catholic confirmation classes to be questioned by a teacher at my Anglican prep school. "What ideas has that radical priest been putting in your head?" she asked. Only what seemed to me to be the obvious consequences of New Testament instruction.

"If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also" still appears a clear command to pacifism, and it fitted at that time (this was the mid-Eighties) with CND then being led by a Catholic priest, Monsignor Bruce Kent. Equally, Jesus's response to the young man who asked him, "What must I do to be saved?" -- "Sell all you have, give the money to the poor" -- struck me as the antithesis of the "greed is good" atmosphere of the Thatcher and Reagan years.

I don't know whether Jesus, if he were to appear on earth today, would shop at Asda rather than M&S, as the Bishop of Reading said in September. But it certainly seemed to me then that he would have found little to his taste in the often callous and uncaring rhetoric of the British right during those years. Feeble attempts to suggest that the Parable of the Talents shows that Christ would want everyone to work at Goldman Sachs fail to convince, and in any case clearly miss the larger point.

As I have pointed out before, the history of English radicalism would be a bare tapestry indeed without the Christianity that sustained it (as, to be fair, it also informs the One Nation Toryism to which I imagine Quentin subscribes). So why do so many on the left wish to ignore this tradition, even to excise it from political debate today? Why are they so afraid of the idea that left-wing notions of fairness, duty and the good society might derive from sources other than social democratic theory?

People can say all they want about the behaviour of the churches over the centuries. That is not relevant here. The point is the proposition that Jesus himself was a "lefty". Funny that it should take one of the Mail's star writers to point this out, and that that statement should be so distasteful to so many who might have been expected to acknowledge its truth themselves.

 

 

 

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Allan Svensson's picture

Hi.
I found your Web Site by Google
And I wish you the best you can get,
the peace of God through Jesus Christ.

Welcome to visit my Site.
Allan Svensson, Sweden
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The Bridegroom comes, Come out to meet him. Matt. 25:6.
From where shall we go out? We shall go out of the great
Babylon, the great whore. Rev. Chapter 17 and 18. This
command of the Lord in Rev. 18:4 is now highly topical.

Never before we have been so nearly Jesus' coming as we
are now, but how are God's people prepared? How is the
unity in the faith? Sorry, very bad! God's people are more
divided now than ever before. Instead of following what
the Bible teaches about the Assembly of God, they have
followed Satan's false assembly doctrine. They believe
that the Assembly of God is constituted of church systems
and many religious organizations.

Most Christians have not yet begun to prepare for Jesus'
coming. They can speak and write that Jesus shall come,
and about the signs of the time, yet they do not make any
preparation to meet Jesus. How can we make a preparation?
To make preparation and be ready for Jesus' coming, God's
people must get the knowledge of the Assembly of God.

All God's people must in the first hand begin to study what
the Bible teaches about the Assembly of God. What we
need now before the restoration of the Assembly of God,
it is humility before God's word and a forgivable disposition
to each other.

The Assembly of God is no Pentecostal church. Please,
consider what this expression "the Assembly of God" in the
reality implies. The Assembly of God must be the same as
the Greek word "ekklesia", and the Body of Christ. 1 Cor.
12:12-31. Then it is easy to understand that this has nothing
to do with the Pentecostal Movement. Pentecostal churches
have existed about 100 years, but the Assembly of God has
ever existed since Jesus baptized his first disciples by the
Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit gave them the new life in Christ
so that they became born anew. Then the Assembly of God
was born.

The Bridegroom comes, Come out to meet him
www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/CRY.HTM

Evil spirits in the churches
www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/SPIRITS.HTM

The great falling away
www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/MESSAGE.HTM

What does hinder the Antichrist to appear?
What is the Restrainer?
www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/MESSAGE.HTM#Antichrist

KJV, "the best English Bible" but not perfect
www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/KING.HTM

Why did the Pentecostal Revival take an end?
www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/CRISIS.HTM

John Carp's picture

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Cue 47 different interpretations of the above....

ed3's picture

"I don't know whether Jesus, if he were to appear on earth today, would shop at Asda rather than M&S, as the Bishop of Reading said in September."

Firstly, I really like your down-to-earth and heartfelt thoughts on this issue. I agree. If the church has been relegated the position of discountable antiquity, then it is because of the abuse of religion by the elite as opposed to the abuse that is hence thought to naturally issue from it. Paradoxically, the bad reputation accorded religion by the elite in the past has enabled the elite to mutate into more untouchables form today.

As for ASDA vs. M&S, I would say that if Jesus was here today, he would push for ASDA giving us M&S quality goods at ASDA prices.

Thanks for the perspective.

ed
a2ed.com

GKHynes's picture

If the Gospel of Luke is to be believed then Jesus would appear to have learned his left-wing political views from his mother. The Magnificat was supposedly composed by Mary:

He has shown strength with his arm
and has scattered the proud in their conceit,
Casting down the mighty from their thrones
and lifting up the lowly.
He has filled the hungry with good things
and sent the rich away empty. - Luke1:51-53

For the compatibility of Toryism and Christianity I suggest the end of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg-4ATrE8n0

Alistair Cole's picture

Interestingly two leading Socialists in the UK -George Galloway and Tony Benn are both practising Christians.

There is also however, a strong movement against organised religion amongst many left-wing institutions one example being the IPPR.

Mathieu's picture

Why does the left seek to ignore this tradition? How inept are you? Religion is a capitalist drug, dreamt up to oppress, divert and subdue. It is characteristic of what the left strives against.

Unimpressed!'s picture

These comments are so boring and time wasting. The weaning should be nigh over by now. Common sense and the needs of society are paramount and all problems will be solved by ourselves - or, rather, the more capable and intelligent of us and not by elves and pixies.

I feel ashamed of these bloggers. In the rest of the civilised world, people have grown rational. Concepts of religion are almost extinct and science and rationality do prevail for the betterment of society.

I do not want my grandchildren to hear of traditional tales or need to confront them. I wish that my grandchildren are able to grow in a loving, caring and enabling environment thus giving them the tools necessary for success in their life and careers.

There is simply no room today for quoting tired and ragged old sayings from ancient texts. There isn't an ounce of credibility in them.

mount1's picture

'Maresa Elliot' - I think you have missed the point in a spectacularly (and let's be honest atheistically) condescending way. The point is that (according even to Dawkins, owner of an 'Atheists for Jesus' T-shirt) Jesus Christ was a revolutionary 'socialist' thinker well well ahead of his time. Whose words still have much relevance.

As you sign off with "There is simply no room today for quoting tired and ragged old sayings from ancient texts. There isn't an ounce of credibility in them", I wonder if that applies to let's say Gandhi, MLK, or Shakespeare.

Who would you rather have people consider? You are so bored by other people's opinions that you feel the need to log in to tell them, so perhaps you would rather it was you.

As the writer says, the church has many failings. But does that excuse bigotry towards other people? Do unto others my dear.

Unimpressed!'s picture

The last comment is objectionable. This is a respectable journal. It is perfectly legitimate to express the advantages of rationality over unprovable texts.

While I respect all beliefs and believers, it is perfectly reasonable to say that there are respectable theories today - expounded by eminent scholars and nobel prize winners that, conceivably, Jesus did not exist. This was a common name at the time and there are ample scholarly documents questioning the Life of Jesus as told in the 4 Gospels.

I have no wish to enter this argument but respect those who find the research interesting or even vital for humanity and the world and for the interests of the world. Spirituality and spiritual life are in the realms of the individual's thinking and in his private domain but to belabour these texts and exigencies on humanity in search for the needs of continued life and progress is arrogant and regressive.

The European Court was right to declare that religious symbols were not acceptable in the classroom today. This ruling is based on just this human right - the right for children to learn and develop their minds based on scientific and secular mores.

mount1's picture

My apologies to you Ms Elliot, and likewise no wish for argument. It is indeed possible to work on a cure for lameness and resist asserting superiority over cripples.

May I just say I do not disagree with you, and would merely wish for more spirituality (be that a study of Dawkins) in more individuals' thinking.

Baron's picture

Why drag Jesus into a political debate? What about Judas? He would qualify much more readily for the label of a leftie. Doesn't he sit on the picture of the Last Supper on Jesus's left side?A strong hit, that. A T-shirt displaying Judas may be stimulating, and I wonder why no entrepreneur has yet thought of it.

Quizmoquanto's picture

In fact this discussion is almost a little parochial because leftism and and religion have mixed and do mix in almost every other place in the world outside of Europe. Take just about every country in the western hemisphere. Mexico's first revolutionary was a priest. Some of the United States greatest social reformers were preachers. And South America, even with it's wave of leftist governments, more solidly catholic than perhaps any other region.

Daniele1's picture

Let's not confuse the historical character of Jesus (that is, if he really existed) and the established religions claiming his legacy.

Jesus may very well have been a revolutionary in his time, wanting social justice and equality and if he came back today he would be horrified by the level of greed the capitalistic system has caused in the world and he would probably still want to chase he merchants out of the temples.

Not to be confused with established religions which were organised to strengthen the political powers of the rulers and to suppress any revolt from the oppressed masses with the threat of Hell after death.
For centuries tyrants have justified their absolute powers as ordered by God! Something no-one could argue with.

Today the Vatican represents the rotting corpse of organised religion and there is definitely nothing leftist in that obscene and anachronistic institution.The Vatican even helped Nazi criminals to escape, showing great charity to fascist murderers.

But how can anyone call themselves "Christian" and hold right-wing political views baffles me. They must make the man Jesus turn in his grave wherever that may be.

PhilDuval's picture

I'm sorry to say that whilst i support people who stand up to what they perceive as religious irrationality and dogmatism i find the militant atheism and scientific supremacism on show in many of these debates to merely the other side of the same coin.

Science is not infallible, it is subject to constant revaluation just as the ancient religious texts are if they are studied as they were intended to be. Opponents of religion also appear to assume that all believers approach their spirituality in the same way - namely they doggedly adhear to certain teachings and beliefs.

My own faith is in a state of constant flux. Do i believe in God or am I more inclined to persue a more esoteric path such as that offered by the Taoists/ Buddhists? And if I believe in God, what does the word God mean? Is it a personified God or is something of which we do not have words to describe?

And what of the transcendent nature of faith? The compassion which means we can identify with the suffering of others? The feeling of connectedness with something ineffable? Or the great experiences of peace and insight which have been studied empirically in Buddhist monks by scientists?

I find Maresa Elliot 's comments intolerant in the extreme. She would do well to remember that 'science' was used by the Nazi's to justify their racial policies (just as right wingers in general often turn to lazy Darwinianism to justify a winner takes all society), whilst the Soviet Union and all it's associated terror was carried out under the banner of official atheism.

I would agree that children have the right not to have religion thrust down their throats but I would ask where will the objections to public expressions of faith end? Spiritual exploration is often most fruitfully explored in a spirit of togetherness with other people. And what chance do children today have to explore spirituality or to be even aware of the possibility when they are force fed a TV diet of advertising, consumerism and violence?

Finally I would concur wholeheartedly with Russell West who draws our attention to the lack of conflict between progressivism and religion in other parts of the world. Or does Ms Elliot discount this on the premise that they are somehow lest sophisticated than us 'advanced' westerners The poor and uneducated have always been given to 'superstition' haven't they?

Oh and we would do well to remember that the great founder of the Labour party, Kier Hardie, was a devout Christian himself, as was Martin Luther King, whilst Gandhi was a Hindu.

Your arguement is naively dualistic.

swatantra's picture

In fact Jesus was a conservative because he was for keeping the Jewish Faith but modifying it slightly to be more tolerant, but then fell into that classic trap that if you want to bring about change then you have to be ruthless if you want to establish your faith above that of others. His Twelve Deciples took that on board and especially Paul with energy giving no quarter to doubters. His followers took over that religion after him and Jesus in true tradition sacrificed himself for his beliefs, the only way that martyrs got noticed. It was all planned out, he says ordained, but planned out, to create the greatest impact.. Analogies can be drawn with todays martyrs.

Baron's picture

Maresa, U R so wrong, I'm afraid. W all NEED, and your children will need faith, something to cling on in times of uncertainty. Faith nourishes the soul, as does food the stomach. How sad that you unable to see this, you sound an intellectually gifted individual.

Nick Kaplan's picture

Just thought I’d point out that the instruction "Sell all you have, give the money to the poor" is very different from the instruction “use the state to steal what others have, give the money to those that will vote for you.” The first is, of course, perfectly compatible with being right wing, the second is the very essence of what we right wingers find so abhorrent about leftism. In addition selling all your things kinda presupposes you have a right to own and sell them i.e. private property.

Interestingly enough there is a good book called ‘Who Really Cares?” which is about the fact that conservatives (at least in the US) tend to give a lot more to charity than leftists. I guess that’s just because you lefties get your moral satisfaction from spending other people’s money and thus feel less inclined to spend your own, we on the right however understand you first have to earn some money before you can do anything charitable with it; spending other people’s money is not acting charitably!

brad evans's picture

Both mainline churches and the modern left are paternalist institutions, for the poor, not of them. Staffed by exactly the same classes of people, going to the same schools, same accents, same tastes, same politics. Religion preaches against capitalism and for multiculturalism hoping to be on "the winning side of history" (whatever that is) and to prove its 'relevance' . The modern Left uses it to prove it's not composed of anti-religious fanatics (unlike after the Russian Revolution) and because religion provides a great deal of credibility when trying to deal with and reach out to communities of colour.
Most of your established church is basically the "Guardian" at prayer.

Nick Kaplan's picture

Maresa Elliot says: “The European Court was right to declare that religious symbols were not acceptable in the classroom today. This ruling is based on just this human right - the right for children to learn and develop their minds based on scientific and secular mores.”

Could you possible explain that complete non-sequitur, for I cannot possibly understand how the right to learn science entails anything to do with religious symbols. Only someone completely incapable of subtlety could possibly think that a right to learn based on science is equivalent to a right to ban other people from using religious symbols. For a start religion and science are not necessarily incompatible. But more importantly rights entail only negative duties e.g. the right to life entails only a duty not to kill, not a duty to keep others alive. Likewise a right to learn science cannot possibly entail a right to deprive others of their right to have religious symbols. Are you seriously suggesting that a right to learn science amounts to a right to ban anything that is unrelated to science i.e. are you a fascist? Or are you suggesting that somehow (perhaps by an act of divine intervention?), if someone were to wear a cross to school, all the other children would thereby become incapable of learning science i.e. are you a moron?

Baron's picture

Maresa Elliot

You seem to be contradicting yourself unknowingly perhaps. 'Jesus didn't exist', you say, and then 'Jesus was a common name'. Surely, he must have existed, in fact, if many men bearing the name Jesus lived, why couldn't just man by the name Jesus live as well. He must have.The theory of probability if applied to big numbers has it that the chances of Jesus actually walking the land are quite high. Why would anyone make up the person and name him Jesus? The religious writers may have as well call him Tim or Albert.

hosteensilve1229's picture

i am pretty sure a real revolution involves some kind of spirituality, and that jesus was undoutedly a leftie with revolutionary ideas who was determined to actually exercise them in his own life. it's just too obvious if you ever read the new testament carefully.. i've never encountered a deeper biography of a leftist thinker/activist. it's the churches and their parasites that distorted his life and ideas that created the unholy alliance between the conservative elites and jesus-citing folks.

Tom's picture

People take from Jesus and the Church what they want to find, and if they don't find what they want, they swap churches or religion or go for a different view of Jesus.

Jesus preached contradictions - love your enemies, execpt the ones who will burn in hell for eternity.

Logically, if Jesus is correct and he can offer his followers eternal life, and salvation is through faith alone, then what ever happens to them and others in this world is of no consequence.

Daniele1's picture

Nick Kaplan: I really object to the way you think it is all right to insult contributors on this site with "are you a fascist? and Are you a moron?" to M.Elliot. Who the hell do you think you are to be so rude and arrogant??

Especially when , in my humble opinion you talk absolute rubbish yourself!

First of all charity should no longer be needed, It is an out-dated mode of redistribution which belongs to under developed and unequal societies such as Victorian and Edwardian societies,which haven't quite worked out how to establish a fair society through a tax system.

But of course the rich give more to charity!! They are the ones who have the money! It is also a good way to relieve their conscience if they have any.

Today I heard of a group of wealthy people in Germany who started a political movement entitled "Wealthy people for more tax on wealthy people". Can you believe that ?These were people who considered themselves lucky to be rich and who felt they wanted to contribute more to facilitate more social justice and to help their country out of recession.Some rich people with a conscience, and who think that fair taxation, not bloody charity, is the way to establish a fairer society. I can't imagine this happening in this country somehow with people like you ,N.Kaplan, selfish individuals who think that the poor deserve to be poor and that social aid is theft from the hard- working rich. You mean like the bankers who have led the country to ruin while filling their pockets? you mean like the aristocrats and members of the Royal family who have been privileged and rolling in money for centuries? You actually believe that all the rich have worked so hard that they deserve to keep every penny they have and the poor deserve to be poor because they are just lazy losers? Is that your view of society??

It must be said that such a childish view of society can only come from a very simple-minded person, Mr. Kaplan.

Furthermore I don't think Jesus would look kindly on your opinions, and I am not even a Christian.

mount1's picture

'Tom' - neat but clearly not true when you take a moment. The Gospels don't say that salvation is down to faith alone. For example, and purely for want of better examples, it's maybe not sure Bush, or Blair, would make it through, but sure Jesus loves 'em. All of which kind of fits in with the question of whether Jesus was a leftie.

Ray's picture

'"If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also," still appears a clear command to pacifism.'

I always thought "turn the other cheek" was a load of bollocks until I learned its historical context. Firstly, it was taboo to hit anyone with your left hand. Secondly, if you struck someone with a closed fist, you were acknowledging them as your equal, whereas slaves could be struck with the back of your hand. If you use your right hand back-handed, you naturally would hit a slave on the right cheek. Now suppose he turns his left cheek to you - the only way to hit him again (without breaking the taboo) is to hit with a closed fist, thereby treating him as an equal. So turning the other cheek was a slave's way of standing up to his master, and forcing him to either treat the slave as an equal or back down. What Jesus was advocating was quite subversive.

Allan Svensson's picture

Hi.
I found your Web Site by Google
And I wish you the best you can get,
the peace of God through Jesus Christ.

Welcome to visit my Site.
Allan Svensson, Sweden
http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/INDEX.HTM

In the time of the apostles any church did not exist, and
therefore the word "church" does not occur in the Bible.
Everywhere in your English Bible where you see the word
"church" it is a grave translation error. Also Matt. 16:18.
It ought to be "assembly".

In the reality, the word "church" occurs not at all in the Bible.
I have five Bible translations in Swedish, (the oldest from
1703). Nowhere in these Bibles does the word "church"
(kyrka) occur. I have also a reference book where the New
Testament is translated word by word from Greek to Swedish.
Everywhere they translate the Greek word "ekklesia" to
församling (assembly).

Perhaps you want to raise the objection, there are many
bible translations in English which all have the word "church".
This is a very stupid argument. A translation error does not
become better of repeating. A lie is a lie no matter how many
time it be repeated.

In Col. 1:18 (KJV) we can read: "And he (Christ) is the head
of the body, the church ..." And in Eph. 5:23-24, "For the
husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of
the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the
church is subject unto Christ..."

This is a lie! The church is not subjected unto Christ. The
head of the Church is the pope, the black pope, and the devil.
The Bible translators do not make a difference between God's
true people and Satan's Church. From the Church's deeds we
shall know the Church. Matt. 7:15-20. By their fruit we shall
recognize the false priesthood. The Catholic Church has
persecuted, tortured and murdered many millions of Christians.
This is a well-known fact. How could a good tree bear such
an evil fruit?

Why did the Bible translators use the same word "church" also
for God's people, the Body of Christ? Why did not they see the
difference between the murderer and the victims for the
murderer? The first Christians were no church. Calling the
first Christians "the first church" is a grave insult against these
Christians. The Church is a mass murderer. The devil is the
real church father.

If we use the same name "church" on the murderer as on the
victims for the murderer, how then can we know what that
means when someone says "church"?

Right since the great falling away took place a very long
time ago and the first churches came into existence,
2 Thess. 2:3, God's people have lived in slavery under
Satan's churches and denominations. The churches have
all the time served the devil, but pretend to be God's
servants and representatives. The churches have never
been any God's assemblies or God's temples. They have
already from their beginning been harlot beings. They
are born through religious fornication. People have
mixed God's word with doctrines of evil spirits, and so
new churches appear.

Churches and denominations are Satan's tools to hold control
over the Christians. The purpose of the churches is that with
false doctrine defend churches and denominations, and to hold
their members in religious slavery, and hinder them to
understand God's word.

Rev. 18:4 is the most powerful revival message of the Lord
we can find in the Bible. Yet, this truth of the Bible has not
been preached among God's people, and therefore the
Christians are entirely unprepared for Jesus' coming. Only
few Christians have obeyed this command of the Lord to
come out of the great Babylon.

Just this is revival, that all God's people become free from
all churches and denominations, the great Babylon. Many
preachers are speaking that Jesus shall come, but they do
nothing to prepare themselves.

None be saved by works of the law, Gal. 2:16,
and none be saved without works of faith. Matt. 7:21-23.

Prepare you to meet Jesus!
http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PREPARE.HTM

Evil spirits in the churches
http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/SPIRITS.HTM

Why did the Pentecostal Revival take an end?
http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/CRISIS.HTM#end

What does hinder the Antichrist to appear?
What is the Restrainer?
http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/MESSAGE.HTM#Antichrist

Jesus cannot come today because God's people are not ready
http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/TODAY.HTM

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