Only some of this is about Jeremy Clarkson
Try to forget one man and his silly comments.
By Steven Baxter Published 01 December 2011 18:55
This was going to be a post about Jeremy Clarkson. About how I like Clarkson: as right-wing writers go, he's rather good. (He's no PJ O'Rourke, no matter how desperately hard he tries, but he makes me chuckle. I hereby ask for my "The Left" membership card to be rescinded immediately.)
This isn't a case of: "First they came for the Clarksons, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a jowly denim-clad petrolhead oaf roaring half-baked grandstanding silliness to needle-dicked losers who like cars." This is just a silly man saying silly things, exaggerating them to make them sound sillier.
Wouldn't you know it, he's got a book out as well; I'm sure this entirely coincidental controversy might shift a few units. The more people get outraged, the more of them will probably be sold, and the more money he'll make. See how Clarkson nourishes himself by licking your salt tears of outrage; see how your hate has made him powerful.
I was going to expand on all of that, but then I saw the news, and Clarkson's comments being the lead item on the news, and it depressed me entirely. Thousands upon thousands of people all over the country got together yesterday to battle against the Government, yet because one person says some tedious trolling deliberately controversial load of old guff to flog a few books, that's shifted the entire focus of public debate. Doesn't that depress you?
This suits The Right (well, if they can use capitals and huge overgeneralisations, I don't see why I can't, so I'm using "The Right" to mean "everyone I don't like, from Ronald Reagan to Ronald McDonald, tainting everyone with the actions of the people I dislike the most") very well indeed. They might like to make the feeble suggestion that 30 November was a damp squib, but it wasn't -- it was popular, powerful and impressive.
I was out there on the picket lines, seeing the numbers at rallies and hearing about the passionate reasons why moderate workers had decided to take action. It wasn't because some nasty spectral bully in charge of their union had forced them into it; it was because they were fed up with what had been handed out to them, and why the public sector had been scapegoated and picked on by the Coalition to pay extra pensions that wouldn't even go into their pension pots.
These people weren't the usual leftie troublemakers stirring up disaffected workers; these were hardworking taxpayers who'd had enough of being squeezed dry.
These were men and women who simply did not buy the Government's line that we were all going to have to do our bit in these troubled times -- and I heard time and time again the comparison made between the pensions of those who had caused this crisis, those MPs who had failed their country, and those who were now being targeted as having 'gold-plated' futures. People aren't buying the Coalition's line, and that should be of real concern to them; it's not just the strikers and their natural sympathisers who have worked that out, either.
I had written, before 30 November, that the strikes risked drawing a wedge between similarly badly-treated groups of private and public sector workers unless they could appeal to as broad a range of people as possible. Looking at it now, I don't think those fears were justified. I heard many speakers and union members talking about the need to make private sector pensions fairer, the need for private and public sector workers to unite against the common enemy in Government, and the desire to ensure this didn't become a conflict between groups of employees.
Let's focus on that. Let's focus on the success of 30 November, and what it means for the future. The public don't trust the Government, despite the cheerleading for the Tory agenda and the hissing at the strikers from the usual sections of the press. Striking might upset some, but it has the support of many. Forget one man and his silly comments -- the debate about Clarkson is just what the Government would like to happen, to draw attention away from their miserably poor attempts to demonise strikers.
Don't let them get away with it. Otherwise, you should be taken outside and shot in front of your kids.
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34 comments
Let's face it, he doesn't give a shit whatever anyone thinks about his comments, so there's no point wasting time thinking about his obnoxious drivel.
Pretty weak defence by Langlois.Not a storm in a teacup. Deeply offensive stuff, especially his comments about railway suicide. No decent person can think this is ok.
Clarkson is smartly making a career out of being an 'Offensive Lout'. It's not very intelligent of British public service to provide him with hours of airtime, and, presumably, financial renmuneration. As a Swede who appreciates the BBC, it's nasty when the company veers towards Berlusconi tactics in search of the vulgarity vote.
Clarkson is a typical bomb throwing conservative.
Hid behind a super injuction and then used his kids as a human shields.
I appreciate Clarkson is a hero of the right, making repeated fun of Gordon Brown's disability.
Graeme Hancocks - I am not defending him, I dislike the guy. It is just that this is one case where Unison (and others) have shown themselves to be idiots.
It is only offensive if he wanted you to think he meant it. He clearly said it as satire. The people who have been offended by this are probably the same people who were outraged by the Brass Eye "Paedodophilia" episode.
At least one NS commentator has it right: http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/12/clarkson-comment-...
I've said nothing about the railway comment. But I think you misjudge "decent people". Plenty of decent people go to stand-up shows and pay to hear comments like that night in, night out. There should be no no-go areas in comedy. I don't find the railway comment indecent, but the setting was inappropriate.
He should have been sacked for calling Gordon a one eyed Scottish idiot....maybe those not from Scotland found it hilarious but not me or other Scots when it was without a doubt said in a bigoted way! He also insulted every partially blinded person around the world. Whether you hate Gordon or not, where he comes from and his disability is should never have been ridiculed. I don't know how many English PMs we Scots have lived under but it was accepted because we are in the UK,when Gordon became PM many people referred in a nasty tone the fact he was a Scottish PM. I think each time Clarkson insults people then it has to be a nail in his career coffin...he knew what he was doing, he may have made it sound that it was a kind of joke but he got his point over and I'm sure Cameron and the Tories guffawed plenty!
The real problem with Clarkson's comment was that he really wasn't serious.
The world would be a better place if you whinging lefties were lined up and shot.
If theres a reason that Clarkson should be sacked it's that he is a load of old rubbish and his show is unwatchable and more importantly that idiots like Fergus Pickering and Earnam Maguire support him.
I have had life-threatening illnesses that were funnier than Jeremy Clarkson. he should be taken outside in front of his family.........and just left there........until the bin lorry comes.
The saddest thing about the whole story is that this despicable arrogant twat is actually Cameron's FRIEND!!. Now THAT worries me as it does give a good indication of the calibre of "our leader". It says it all about Cameron and his cronies.Disgusting and very depressing.
@Daniele
"twat ... Disgusting"
You said it.
Clarkson wants publicity so creates a furore. Union wants publicity so creates a furore - though not as well, because self-righteous anger doesn't play as well offensive jokes (and I am referring to the train suicide material.
Clarkson said it as a joke. He even said it wasn't his opinion straight after. Unfortunately many left-wing publications like the Guardian are only showing a small edited clip that doesn't make clear that it's a joke.
Personally I think this incident only reveals that the left can be as dirty as the right when it wants to harm someone for no reason other than they have different political views.
Baxter and Langlois are both right. It has been lapped up for all the wrong reasons, fuelled by this modern aversion to "offence" and yes, taken out of context if you watch the whole interview. I can't stand Clarkson either. I love Stuart Lee's response to his and his co-host's "jokes" and relish any opportunity to bring GW-denier JC down a peg or two. This just isn't it.
Gezza is a dude!!!
Those on the left, including Milliband, who are asking for Clarkson to be sacked etc are making complete fools of themselves. Clarkson is rubbing his hands with glee. The hard left will make it harder to get rid of this abysmal right-wing Coalition.
It maybe fine for people to have the "right" to be offensive. What about the "right" to be offended? I haven't seen the actual broadcast so not able really judge if he was joking. However people who want to be controversial never do it directly to the intended recipient. Just in case it results in a smack in the gob.
All funny writers are of the right. No left wing writer is funny. Or perhaps you know one. What him? Naw, he isn't funny at all.
if carol thatcher had not been sacked and andy gray not been sacked and many others i would not give a shit. However if there is going to be consistency Clarkson should be fired immediately. But then again Clarkson's target did not fit the definition dreamed up by rich north london types who run the bbc. He didn't offend women, ethnic minorities or homosexuals just the plain old white working class striking over conditions which is obviously fair game. And people wonder why far-right groups like the EDL are flourishing and stupid ideas like "blue labour" are popular
come to think of it as its true Clarkson told the producer before the show and he is so close to Cameron this could have been an organised media stunt to distract media attention from the strike thus helping out his mate Cameron. It seemed a bit OTT and extreme even for Clarkson
Excepting this article, that tries to put his comments in the context of the perfectly justified stroke action, I'm puzzled why so many people writing for the New Statesman are so blase about the Clarkson story. I really think it is actually quite important. I have tried to examine why here:
http://representingthemambo.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/clarkson-gets-mambo...
Good to see the comments here have gone with the tone of the article and shifted away from talking about Jeremy Clarkson and moved on to talking about the positives that came from the strike. You know, like how, among other things, it highlighted that private sector pensions are terrible and those in the private sector should be shouting about it louder than the public sector. Oh, hang on.
The only thing people should do is just to ignore him, but even that is failing, God - the Left must exercise some self discipline.
Teachers belong to the white working class, do they? Average pay must be around £30,000 for a full-timer. You mean they are mostly white and they work. They are also mostly women. Nobody else came out on strike as far as I can see.
What on earth is wrong with the comment about train suicides? It is true, isn't it?
Can we have an NS article on why the priavte sector isn't fighting to improve their pesnions? I know the comments section isn't a request service but it just seems like something that is swept under the carpet among all this. Public sector workers joined a strike due to proposals on pensions that would make them work more and receive less. People in the priavte sector who say their pensions are much worse seem to accept their lot, stand by and do nothing. There's got to be a story in why that is the case.
James:
He didn't offend women, ethnic minorities or homosexuals just the plain old white working class striking over conditions
Erm, women, LGBTQ and BME people were on strike too - not all working class people are white and not all striking people were working class.
Len's Legs - the reason is simple really. In teh public sector there is a single employer and so the workers can all club together and make collective demands. In the private sector in the modern age there are few employers who employ lots of people doing the same job (old large scale manufacturing). Instead you have lots of smaller employers, or large corporates who employ people doing a range of tasks. It is a competitive market and employers offer the "market rate" to any new employees. It has been a long time since final salary schemes were considered market rate in the private sector. The employees are simply not going to demand those extra benefits when there is a queue of people behind them willing to take the job at what is market rate. Private sector employees lost collective bargaining power a long time ago, but the flip side is that there are few true private monopolies in the private employment sector either and so employers cannot quite call all of the shots - except when there is a recession and people will accept anything just to keep their jobs.
I find nothing Clarkson says interesting. I do find it interesting that so many right wingers are rushing about from site to site, frantically trying to defend him. Tells me a lot about the right wing and, at the very least, its sense of humour (so called).
Clarkson made a few sick jokes. JOKES! Get over it. He's an overpaid nob yes but don't be such idiots.
It's somewhat off topic but since you mentioned it I should point out that P.J. O'Rourke is absolutely crap and not at all funny. Clarkson may actually be funnier than O'Rourke, God help us.
Graeme Hancocks writes, 'No decent person can think this is ok.'
Sanctimonious crap. No 'decent' person allows their wife or servant to read Lady Chatterley's Lover. As soon as anyone reaches for the 'decency' card we know we're in the presence of bilge. Clarkson is a twat and all people like you have done is give him thousands of pounds worth of free publicity.
ElaineS writes, 'He should have been sacked for calling Gordon a one eyed Scottish idiot....'
What? Sacked for one of the few occasions he tells the truth? Brown was Scottish (as he often told us), he was one-eyed (and we were often regaled with stories about his 'courage' in dealing with it), and he was certainly an idiot - any man who claims to have abolished 'boom and bust' in the capitalist system has clearly lost quite a few marbles.
Nice argument, except that you base your point on the assumption that these comments were actually Clarkson's views and that he was saying what he thought. If you see the whole interview it is clear that they were not his views.
He started off by saying how great the strikes were (admittedly for purely selfish reasons - typical Clarkson). Then, he mentioned that "this is the BBC so we need balance", he put on a mock-outraged voice and reeled off a short rant of an extreme anti-union rant. It was clear that he was being satirical. The audience got it as they laughed. The presenters failed to get it as they looked embarrassed and said "these are Jeremy's views" to which he replied "no they're not, I'm just giving you two views".
So it is a storm in a teacup based on a misunderstanding.
I am more worried by the double standards shown by Unison in calling for someone to be sacked when they have clearly misunderstood the situation. Try doing that to one of their members and there'll be a very different reaction.
Were any those on strike Job Center 'workers', by any chance? Scared witless we'll end up on the 'wrong side' of the counter no doubt....Clarkson, Jeremy? Like the UK sa a whole - a badly zeroxed copy of an American original. (PJ O'Rourke)
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