And why do you assume that because I think Marxism is pile of crock that I am right wing? Don't you know there is whole myriad of political thought? I too can't stand the Royal Family... I can't stand any unelected dictators.

Luddite.... you still wont answer why your hero and Goddess Thatcher supported the despot Pinochet?, and why she strongly appeased the murderous South African Apartheid regime?, also, didn`t she support Saddam when he invaded Iran?, didn`t she also support the Mujahideen(Taliban) against the russians?, all leaders of all political persuasions mix with, and deal with some of the most despotic regimes!!, that`s just a fact of life, us little people can`t do anything about it!, even if we vote them out the next lot just do the same!, every modern day leader have blood on their hands!, Right and Left, all done in the name of trade!!, the Saudi`s only have to say BOO and the world bows to them like servile slaves!!, they`re one of the most despotic regimes on the planet!!, do you honestly think the west would allow the saudi king to be overthrown?, especially if it was fundementalists who swore to disrupt the flow of oil?, and do you think our leaders would be saying it`s the will of the people?, and would we be continuosly showing the lynching close up, non stop, and in some section of the media glorifying in it, if it was the Saudi king?, i don`t think so, yet again the west is practicing dangerous double standards which always comes back to bite us all on the bum!!, all death is horrible!, no matter who it is, i wouldn`t like to think we`d become Desensitized to those horrible images?, no matter who it was?, that would be sad and dangerous!!.

Just wanted to show you that the TNC has amde a good beginning in London. The new political attache in London Amal Tarhune is none other than the daughter of Ali Tarhouni, the oil and energy minister for the TNC.

Colin: I am talking about pjwall's views. They are your typical neo-marxist ideas about all thing being motivated by money or oil. I'm saying that's rubbish because people are motivated by other things apart from money and oil. The Afghanistan War was motivated by revenge. There is no oil there but there was a bloke whose finances and support resulted in 9/11. Colin, are you purely motivated by money?

I'm going to simplify a touch. The ruling elite? That's an easy one. It's people like me I suppose, but certainly my extended family, who've been at the 'game' for a long time, one way or another. The UK is ruled by the markets and the financial sector. Nobody else really matters anymore.

Cameron and Osbourne are part of the traditional 'ruling class' in the UK, people who retain enormous power and influence, regardless of which government's in Downing Street.

Despite elections and demcracy and a couple of centuries of reform, the welfare state; Power is still in the hands of a tiny group of people both here, in the US, and in most other countries. Politicians come and go, the Bosses remain for ever.

I think i must be one of the few people who could not care less about what is going on in Libya. I have successfully managed to avoid reading a single newspaper article about it or seeing a single news report about it.

It had absolutely nothing what so ever to do with us and we should not have been spending hundreds of millions on military action interfering and taking sides in another country. Or does it have anything to do with oil?

I now know he is dead, i could not avoid that, but i do not know how or where and i could care even less.
Here is hoping this is the end of the tedious news coverage.

The moral thing to do was to have Gaddafi stand trial rather than have him executed because that would bring 'closure' to all who had lost loved ones in under his rule and maybe at the same time expose 'external players' who might have some influence in the direction he had paved.

A brutal end to brutal despot may not be acceptable in the West, but to see Gadaffi's death may be the closure the Libyan people needed.

Badly said writeon, I couldn't agree less

Get your head out of the stupid Marxist past. The biggest shareholders of companies are pension funds belonging to workers. This makes the workers the owners of capital.

When are you thicko Marxists going to realise you're talking astro bull?

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thanks for writing this brilliant article. I read all the other newspapers & they all smell blood with no insightful analysis. I think journalism is dead in this country. Lying has become the code of ethics for survival.

I remember, and it wasn't too long ago, that the Colonel was mentioned with respect by "progressives"; people like Castro and Chavez and Mandela were mentioned in the same breath and nobody batted an eye.
Guess things change.
The Non-Conformist conscience strikes again.

Most people are controlled by sentiments rather than what's really going on. Gaddafi wasnt infallible i know, but his little mistakes are so much magnified and exaggerated by the media. He was not more brutal than Bush and Blair who invaded iraq for no just reason, where hundreds of thousands of innocents were killed. Why the invasion of iraq no one could tel yet. What i do not understand is why only gaddafi? Why are Bush and Blair not being tried by the ICC. Also another thing is the CIA involvement in the assassination of foreign leaders. Who gave them the liscence to do that? Recently obama ordered the assassination of a US citizen without trial which is against the constitution. But very few speak against this. Where is the justice? The preachers of democracy have long forgotten the spirit of justice. Therefore they should stop this brutality in the arab world and tackle their own problems first.

I have found the imagery of Gadaffi's death barbaric and the triumphalist media reporting repulsive. He may have been a dictator but Blair and Bush have more blood on their and I would not like to see them dragged through the streets as Gadaffi was. In a civilised society the defeated leaders should be arrested and tried in a court of law as the international community did after world war 2 with the Nazi leaders.
What we have at present in the world is the law of the jungle and it is glorified by the media.

I have not heard one single Libyan condemn the manner in which Ghadaffi was killed, with most stating that he deserved to die in the way he did. Is not this kind of mob revenge identical to the kind of revenge that Ghadaffi meted out to his opposers and detractors. That Libyans rejoice in the manner of his death does not bode well for what is to come in Libya. It must be remembered too that Libyan society is deeply tribal, where an eye for eye and a tooth for a tooth is embedded in the culture of the society. Make no mistake this was a summary execution ordered and planned by the US. The key question now is what will Libya be expected to do in return for the West. I know of no society which has emerged from this to become less brutal than the regime it has replaced. How can democracy flourish when we see pictures of a jubiliant Libyan people en masse rejoicing in their former leader being beaten and battered about the head, even though he is close to death having been shot three times, be stripped naked, be dragged through the streets and then taken to Misrata where despite being dead is still being punched and assaulted around the head. I wonder what sort of society will emerge from Libya now!!!!! Make no mistake. This is pure and utter revenge.

How we would have cheered had the Spanish people strung Franco up, or the Chilean people Pinochet. What's the difference? Just because Gaddafi stole the world 'socialist' doesn't mean he was any different.

'Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon...'

Damned clever these Chinese. Building some of Afghanistan's infra-structure whilst protected by US ground forces seems pretty ingenious. Of course there is the copper mining.
Surely the Chinese are not playing the US for suckers.
Doing the same thing in Libya until the anti-Gaddafi forces got going. Had to extract 30,000 workers, too.
As far as Gaddafi is concerned let's hope there's no possibility of resurrection. Libya is not that far from Palestine, after all.

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Myself, I wish Gaddafi had been taken to the Hague and formally tried under the same rules they applied to the Nazis to make the point that human rights are real and must be respected.

However, Gaddafi had done whatever he pleased with the people of Lybia for decades. doing to them for real what this publication pretends America does. Thus he was always likely to face some payback. This publication all but cheered when 9/11 happened. Now when someone deserving is killed, you're sad.

Do Brits only cheer when honest folks are brutalised? Why is a real tyrant's death never good news to you folks?

re. Macquade.
You cite the French Revolution, but what you omit to mention is that it took over two hundred years before France was considered a non violent functioning democracy.!!!!

Mr Divine....You sure know how to shovel your right wing deluded Excrement out!! "Thicko Marxists", is that the best your shortage of brain cells would let you come up with?, have you heared the saying "he may be a bastard, but he`s our bastard", that`s what Gaddafi was to the west when it suited them?, just like Saddam was when it suited us?, you honestly think this was about good over evil?, these two despots where always murderous tyrants!, from day one, Why didn`t we enter Rwanda?, or Zimbabwe?, Govts right and left, don`t give a flying bollock about these poor peoples human rights!, it`s all about access to OIL!!, and trade!, always has been, always will be, simple as!, Let`s give this a few months, then we`ll see how it starts to pan out?, like the saying goes, "Be careful what you wish for".

On the morning of 911 I said on the Internet I hope the American don't overreat! They did of course but they were being attacted. I think Afganistan is justified in a way that Iraq wasn't. Ghaddifi seemed a joke but his regime killed a lot of people, but he went in a nasty way.

I don't think our leaders; Cameron, Blair, Bush, Sarkozy, Obama, really give a damn about democracy or human rights, or what happens to ordinary people, whether they live or die, not in our own countries and certainly not abroad. Therefore, they couldn't have 'intervened' in Libya to protect civilians as a priority. Ordinary people don't matter and our leaders think of them as little more than cattle. Our only real interest is in gaining strategic and economic advantage for ourselves, and this has been true for centuries as the West has expanded across the globe. Nothing much has really changed, though the rhetoric and propaganda has. Imperialism is still red in tooth and claw.

I'm not really sure about these sectarian labels... 'left' and 'right' anymore... that they are relevant.

When large sections of the left and liberals support an aggressive and expansive neo-imperialist agenda, (presented as a crusade for freedom and protecting human rights, and even democracy) because the propaganda plays to their ideological aspirations, prejudices and principles, then I don't know what's going on.

I suppose, if I'm lamenting anything, it's the death of liberal, bourgeois, democracy; which though deeply flawed and unrepresentative, was a viable and humane alternative to totalitarianism of the left or the right.

I see Gadaffi's brutal, animal-like, slaughter by an armed mob as both significant and symbolic. We delivered him to his barbaric death at the hands of his enemies, and our leaders rejoice and call it 'historic', and it is historic, in the sense that it symbolizes the death of the liberal and civilized West, or what was left of it.

The bombing and destruction of the city of Sirte by Nato and its proxy fighters, supposedly to protect civilians, was also barbaric and shameful, as was the smashing of Libya's infrastructure to terrorize the population of Libya, a country that was virtually defenceless against the Nato onslaught.

But this kind of aggressive imperialism overseas is impossible without destroying democracy at home, and this is where we should be worried.

Imperialism and eternal war over what's left of the world's resources, is incompatable with a functioning democracy at home.

So democracy is under attack and being systematically rolled back in the West, and is being replaced by a form of totalitarian democracy, or a new variant of fascism.

Soon, as the welfare state is completely dismantled, all that will be left is the warfare state. The military and the security services. We'll be back in the 18th century, fuedalism in all but name.

This kind of fascist fuedalism is going to characterize society in the future, unless there's a successful revolution and the entire ruling elite is removed from power.