Is David Miliband really responsible for the Tory-Liberal government?
Paddy Ashdown accuses former foreign secretary of having “killed” Lib-Lab talks, but the enthusiastic former leader was in a minority, even in his own party.
By James Macintyre Published 22 June 2010 17:08For those of us still fascinated by the coalition talks that led to the Liberal Democrats propping up a Conservative-led government that has implemented its "austerity" Budget today, an interesting and strangely timely story has popped out of a BBC interview with Paddy Ashdown.
The former Lib Dem leader and party grandee has accused David Miliband of having "killed" the prospects of a "progressive alliance" based on a Labour-Liberal pact. Miliband has accused Nick Clegg of being "dumb waiter" and "nodding dog" to the coalition, and now Lord Ashdown has hit back, saying:
If there is a single person who is responsible for the fact that the possibility, slim though it was, of a Liberal Democrat/Labour coalition was killed it is David Miliband. I sent a message to him in the last hours of the negotiation saying: if you want to revive this you have to come out and say you are committed to it. He refused to take part in any of the negotiations which might have made this possible. I sent a message through Tony Blair, by the way. He [Mr Miliband] refused to come out and say "this is worth pursuing".
So if there is a single person who is responsible for the fact that we now have a Conservative government it is actually David Miliband. It is, to me, the height of unacceptable, negative and irresponsible politics to refuse to carry the burden when you are in power, and then to criticise those who do when you leave who have to take the burden on board and who have to clean up the mess you leave behind.
And I really think before people like David Miliband, before they [start] lashing out at Nick Clegg, they ought to look at their own record on this. What is having to be done now is directly because Labour refused to carry that burden and refused to put right themselves the mess they created . . . So it really is something, I think, to complain now because we were prepared to pick up the burden he was not prepared to carry and furthermore to clear up the mess he helped to create.
Responding to this, a spokeswoman for Miliband points out that he was not appointed to the negotiating team for Labour, and adds:
The Liberal Democrats are looking for someone to scapegoat for the reason they find themselves with the Tories in a government which is about to deliver the harshest Budget of all time.
Fair point, though Lord Ashdown's comments are potentially damaging to Miliband if other leadership candidates play on the idea that he is somehow "responsible" for the current government. Of course, that is an unrealistic charge, for a number of reasons:
1. As I wrote in my post-mortem of the Liberal-Labour talks, it is clear that the former had decided to opt for the Tories from the start, and perhaps from before the election.
2. In that sense, the principled Lord Ashdown -- who admirably and strongly made the case for a Labour-Liberal coalition that would "dare" other parties to vote it down -- was clearly working against the grain, and in a minority inside what Andrew Adonis calls "the Clegg mafia".
3. Though it would have been constitutionally fine for David Miliband to take over as Prime Minister, he may have felt it wrong -- not to mention something of a hard sell -- for a Labour-led government to be headed by another figure who does not have a mandate of his own from the people.
4. It is possible that the very middleman for this message, Tony Blair, was reluctant to encourage a Labour-Liberal deal, like his friend Charlie Falconer and his ally John Reid.
Nonetheless, there is no doubt that any Labour figure who actively argued against such a move -- and that includes Diane Abbott and Andy Burnham, but not David Miliband -- must accept some responsibility for the Tory-Liberal government. Any Labour figure who wanted to go into opposition was in the wrong, putting their own short-term interests ahead of those of the country. Now all the leadership contenders must show they are ready to take power if and when cracks open up in this coalition.
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13 comments
well put firsttimer!
It seems that Paddy was listening with neither his right ear, nor his left ear, but keeping a proper perspective by listening to his own inner voices...
Well, how could David Miliband on his own prevent a coalition? There are people in all three parties (Lab, Lib-dems, Tories) who said: "no, we cannot form a coalition, the parties are too far apart"
It is possible that David Miliband did prefer to admit defeat to run for the leadership of his own party, and prepare for the next election by being in the opposition. However, I cannot believe that he may be the only one in the Labour party to have prevented that coalition. If one person only could do it, there wouldn't be a Tory-Lib-dem coalition either, cuz there were some Tories who opposed the coalition too.
I think Paddy Ashdown is trying to make David Miliband lose the race to leadership, probably because he sees him as the biggest threat.
If Milliband was instrumental then he should be applauded. Of course; as a Labour voter I don't like my party to be in opposition, but given Clegg's u turn on all he stood for in the run up to the election, I'm very glad we did not join forces with the Liberals. I don't think the coalition will last, I wouldn't be surprised if Clegg ended up going over to the Tories completely; he should do; for he is more blue than Cameron!.
Labour need a really good regroup, it's not just the leader it's many in the party who need to change in order to give a more representative party able to meet what the voters want. We constantly hear of 13 years of Labour as though it was all bad; it wasn't. Remember Labour was elected for three terms, they were obviously doing something right.
"So if there is a single person who is responsible for the fact that we now have a Conservative Government it is actually David Miliband".
Really Paddy, I expected better of you. I'm no Milliband fan but culpability lies with your own party. Milliband wasn't involved in the negotiations, why should he commit in public to a deal that wasn't really being brokered with any seriousness by the Lib Dems.
Let's have a bit of mea culpa from you Paddy, you were after all part of the negotiating team that - to quote your good self - is "responsible for us now having a conservative government". I notice that you use the word conservative government..... I thought it was a coalition government?
Any Lib Lab deal would have been a complete mockery of democracy for the English. Look at the UK map with voting colours - Labour lost in England almost completely.
I respect Paddy Ashdown but he does seem a little out to lunch on this one.
Paddy Ashdown, is he having regrets for his party, well now its to late the deals been done. It appears all the Lib Dems are doing is dishing the dirt on behalf of the Conservatives. Labour mismanaged the economy big time, with their spend and be dammed policy, on immigration too they deceived us, the coalition too as to face up to the same problems, it won't go away. Expect some real problems in the future as people realise its they who have to take the brunt, even pensioners. We've got the best of the rubbish and lets face it there wasn't anything else to vote for.
Ashdown seems to not have the guts of Kennedy, who has made his opposition clear from the start.
But please, even those of us in the Labour Party have to aknowledge that post May 6th, if we were to have a broadly stable Government, only an agreement between Tory and LibDems could achieve this. Imagine Gordon having to go cap in hand to that fool Salmond...
Yes. Labour saw tis train crash coming and David lacked the guts to challenge Brown 2 years ago. He says he wasn't ready. Well hes not ready now.
The sad truth is that if Kennedy or Ashdown or Ming had had the chance that Clegg found himself in holding the balance of power, by god they would have jumped at it. Thas what Lib Dems are about. Seeking opportunities.
The worst and limpest excuse so far for the Lib Dems to abandon in virtually it's entirety the manifesto it had before the election. Next Ashdown will be blaming Labour for the poster campaign against the Tory VAT Tax Bombshell.
There are now two sides to British politics, on one side the Labour Party and on the other the Blue Tories and the Orange Tories. Only one side welcomes a Thatcherite budget waving their order papers in the air while cheering and smiling. No amount of finger pointing and excuses by Ashdown will hide the fact that his party will vote for a political style of budget that throughout his leadership they tried to vote down.
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I'm not sure they were wrong. I think they had room to make concessions and accept a Tory gov on the basis it would not have a mandate in its own right.
I think it's time now to not worry so much about the deal but just about what kind of record this coalition creates for itself. And that is where Labour stands to gain - if they properly execute their argument.
I broadly agree with the post, but I still don't get this:
"Nonetheless, there is no doubt that any Labour figure who actively argued against such a move -- and that includes Diane Abbott and Andy Burnham, but not David Miliband -- must accept some responsibility for the Tory-Liberal government."
Whatever arguments people used, there was a very strong argument that the Lib-Lab coalition was not simply unworkable but lacked legitimacy, given its lack of majority and lack of 'elected' leader (not formally a problem but in reality seen as a lack of mandate).
A minority government is a relative novelty, a coalition government is new within our lifetime, but a minority-coalition government is practically unheard of even in systems that are used to coalitions - how was it supposed to survive in ours?
Labour has not necessarily 'deserted' anyone if it conducts itself well in opposition. The coalition has made big claims for itself in terms of its progressiveness, fairness, propriety and economic responsibility - all of which are crumbling before our eyes in their pursuit of narrow, ideological goals.
They are already guilty of disappointing and deserting more people than the outgoing Labour government.
Having said that, obviously Labour as a whole "must accept some responsibility for the Tory-Liberal government" because it lost the election, i.e. lost too many seats to be biggest party or form a coalition.
That's why Labour have to analyse what they did wrong in office (as well as what they did right) and how to prevent such mistakes in future, as well as form an effective opposition and win the next election - whenever it comes.
It's a huge challenge but better than indulging in blame games like the LibDems and Tories.
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