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Why Cameron is wrong about "Indian dance" classes

The PM has again displayed his ignorance.

David Cameron talks to a group of Olympic volunteers. Photograph: Getty Images.
David Cameron complained that a lot of schools were "doing things like Indian dance or whatever". Photograph: Getty Images.

After Boris Johnson called for the reinstatement of the two-hours-a-week school sports target (indeed, he suggested that children do two hours of sport a day), David Cameron has again taken to the airwaves to defend its abolition. This time, he complained that "a lot of schools were meeting that [the target] by doing things like Indian dance or whatever, that you and I probably wouldn't think of as sport, so there's a danger of thinking all you need is money and a target."

But this Daily Mail-style argument from anecdote (does Cameron actually know of any schools that teach Indian dance? And what if they did? For the sport averse, dance is an excellent form of exercise)  is unsupported by evidence. As Philip Collins notes in his typically excellent Times column (£):

The school sport survey, carried out by the Department for Education, shows that in 2009-10 nine out of ten children were doing at least two hours of sport a week. The vast majority of this activity was competitive. Half of all pupils played for their school against another school. Of course, the more competitive that sport truly is, the more it excludes people who are no good. The objective that sport should be competitive cuts across the objective that all should join in. But, in any case, for the slower, weaker and lower, 99 per cent of all schools had a sports day.

In other words, there is no evidence that the two-hours-a-week target was having unintended consequences. To the contrary, it ensured that the majority of children enjoyed a reasonable level of activity. As so often, Cameron's decision to scrap the target was not based on evidence but ideological prejudice.

19 comments

Miindia's picture

Yes, I also agree that dance is an excellent form of exercise. Now a days, it became trendy learn about Indian dance classes. Some of the popular Hindi film actresses like Hema Malini, Wahida Rehman and Madhuri Dixit are also trained classical singers. Learn classical Indian dance and music, may be one day you will mastering the roots of Bollywood dance steps.

Lucidus's picture

David Schneider ‏@davidschneider

I'm amazed to hear David Cameron slagged off "Indian dancing" seeing as he's so damned good at it

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Juliethedancer's picture

Had Mr Cameron seen a few top Bharatanatyam dancers such as Harinie Jeevitha perform items full of acrobatic karanas, he would have not said what he did.

Fordy1968's picture

You're as much of a one-eyed bigot as Cameron, George. Why should I agree with you and not him? Why should I trust your evidence and not his? As far as I can see, you both talk out of your arses. Between people like you and people like Cameron, this country is in a vice. You're as bad as each other, each trying to destroy the other. That is the objective and, between you, you will be the death of us all.

RH47's picture

Well - the revelation that Cameroon is a second-rate chancer isn't exactly news (although the possibility of his inflicting his privileged stupidity on the next generation in ignorant harness with Gove is somewhat alarming).

But look on the bright side. :

(i) He is incontrovertable evidence that even the dim-witted can obtain a first from Oxbridge.
(ii) If he keeps on going like this, even Daily Mail readers might twig that he isn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier.
(iii) He (with others) provides constant additional evidence that, whilst not a precondition, being dim is certainly a common attribute of Toryism.

Fordy1968's picture

What you seem to be saying is that, if someone has the opposite point of view to you, they are thick. If you truly think that, I think you are the one that is thick. Learn to celebrate the diversity of the world. Different personalities think differently. Tolerate difference and learn to love your enemy. They are only human, like you.

Eddy S's picture

I'm glad cameron has spoke about indian dance classes, at least he knows it is trendy at the moment and very big in new york, but you can combine dance with fitness too and bhangra isva good example!

Pavlova's picture

A politician making decisions on ideology not evidence?!? When did this all start?

122Joe's picture

As soon as the coalition was formed....

Gareth's picture

Long before that, I suspect. The problem with the sense of being born to rule that Cameron's upbringing has given him is that it seems to have convinced him that he has an instinctive understanding of the best course of action in every situation. For Cameron, there is no need for evidence-based policy making, only to act quickly on his intuition. The contrast could be seen clearly in the differing approaches to the Libor fixing scandal, with the Prime Minister wanting a quick Parliamentary inquiry to enable swift action, while Miliband wanted a much broader judge-led inquiry.

The evidence for this belief in entitlement-driven expertise is also present in the frequent references to (what the Tories consider to be) "the mess we inherited from Labour". I found this in the 'Laying the Foundation' Housing Strategy the other day; surely not a document in which such partisan statements should be found. Note in the phrase both the sense of birthright that the word "inherited" conveys, as well as the near disdain for the outcome ("mess") that the previous government's policies could have delivered, almost as if it were inconceivable that anyone would want to pursue non-Tory policies.

It is this seeming inability to grasp the decision making process and the political calculations through which New Labour went that I find most disturbing in our current government. Whether or not one agrees with the aims of, or approach to, policy under the previous administration, it is surely necessary to recognise that social policy produce a balance between a diverse range of often contradictory outcomes. Change one thing for the better and something else is made worse. In the area of housing, for example, the government has expressed the wish to build significantly more houses than Labour did, while giving less money to the housing associations, and while reducing housing benefit. Their solution is to permit higher levels social rents to be charged. For many people, this may be workable, but for the least well off in some of the more expensive areas, housing will become unaffordable. Is this a better outcome than under the previous policy? Possibly so, but how much confidence can we have that such decisions have been made using the detailed, considered evidence that they deserve?

Sadly, Mr Cameron is not the only minister who suffers from this sense of ideological righteousness. Two ministers stand out, each in charge of a major policy area: George Osborne and Michael Gove. In terms of economic policy, the damaging effect of failure to appreciate the opposite position are already clear. In the sphere of education, the effects of Gove's ideological blinkeredness may take years to emerge, but have the potential to inflict no less harm.

AAMVN's picture

Hitler preferred to act quickly on his intuition too.

122Joe's picture

As soon as the coalition was formed....

SBLondon's picture

Why does he think dance is not a form of exercise? And prefixing with "Indian"? He's just showing his racist beliefs. Or whatever.

redandnotdead's picture

Why doesn't he get on with what really matters THE ECONOMY, why are they ~ the tories, trying to distract people from the real issues

Briar's picture

Easy enough to do when people prefer to be distracted and not see what is really happening, such as the deliberate degradation of wages and public services. For instance, the nation now apparently believes that the apparent improvement in GB's medal winning performance was all achieved in the past two years, once the sporty were relieved of Labour's supposed antipathy to competitive sports. (Don't forget, it is competition the economic ideology followed by both Tories and Labour seeks to emphasise. Regarding eveyone not on your team as "the enemy" is so character building, and lets you do anything you like to exploit, cheat and damage them.)

AAMVN's picture

Keep rubbing the PMs nose in his own stupidity - it's the only way to learn him..

Steve AM's picture

One of the main reason for sport or any other exercise which includes dance is a good thing. it’s about being healthy and fit. What should be happening is that sport is for everyone not just people who excel at it who become professional but for everyone to help keep them fit, to compete and co-operate and to socialise. The spin offs that come with sport are the important aspects that everyone can be involved in.

Englebert Humperdinck's picture

If synchronised swimming, BMX riding and dressage are OLYMPIC sports, Cameron should reconsider his crass comment about Indian dance not being a sport!

Simon B's picture

Even if he was right and schools were delivering dance, is there anything wrong with that? Obesity will cost society £50bn by 2050 on current trends, dance is a form of physical activity and so part of the solution.

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