The Staggers 10 July 2012 We still don't know what Labour's alternative is The party's policy rethink is hamstrung by a lack of detail. Print HTML Editor's note: This is a response to John Denham's blog, "There is no need for Miliband to choose between radicalism and pragmatism", itself a response to Neil's essay in the current issue of the New Statesman, "What is Milibandism?" Dear John I’m pleased (and flattered) that you took the time to respond to my article. You write that The emerging consensus among those Ed has promoted is that there is no foreseeable point where the public spending taps are turned back on. The cost of an ageing population, the need to invest, and the impossibility of increasing taxes for the squeezed middle will see to that. This is good to hear, and your analysis is obviously right. As Liam Byrne famously pointed out, “there’s no money left”. And yet, in Ed’s speech to the Scottish Labour Party in March he said: "this Tory-led government is making it worse…Higher VAT… Cuts to tax credits…The freezing of child benefit”, and promised that the next Labour government would introduce “a proper cap on rail fares". Now those are either multibillion spending commitments, or they are meaningless. Either is bad. It’s the same with other shadow ministers. John Woodcock has proposed an extra £3bn in transport spending. Ed Balls has complained that "The benefits cap will lead to more homelessness, the way it is designed", and that "what they are doing on disability living allowance is a big mistake." And yet we don’t really know what Labour’s alternative would be. You write that my "belief that Labour's spending instincts are bound to spill out misreads the way Labour's debate is going." I hope you are right. But is Labour on really track to convince the voters that it will control spending? You write that Ed is: Confident that the economy can be reshaped by an active state enabling successful private business; an ambition that goes beyond the odd token grant and investment that passes for Osborne's "industrial strategy. You even promise "the construction of a different economy." Wow. This is Big Stuff. But how, how, how? In what ways would your "industrial strategy" be different from "handing out the odd token grant," which is what government of all hues have done for decades? Indeed, you praise Peter Mandelson’s time at BIS, which involved doing more or less exactly that. You write that, "The cost of tax credits rose in an economy producing too many poorly-paid jobs." Whereas under Labour there will be millions more high paid jobs because…? Answers on a postcard, please. You write that O’Brien is right to say there are many issues that remain challenging for Labour, not least welfare. But it’s telling that he sees this as a tactical issue for the Tories. Actually I see much deeper welfare reform as a good thing in itself, a way to reduce unemployment, and also a way of liberating funds to spend on tackling the root causes of poverty and economic underperformance. But, yes, it is also an unsolved political problem for Labour. You talk about "Shifting investment from tax credits to affordable child care, or landlords' rents to bricks and mortar. Rewarding those who work and contribute over those who didn’t." These are really interesting germs of policy ideas, but so far they’re undeveloped. Tax credits were supposed to be one of Labour main tools to reduce unemployment. But in the end the overwhelming majority of tax credit spending has gone on child tax credit (CTC) which is really a bigger, means-tested version of child benefit, and does nothing to encourage work. Redirecting this spending to things like childcare which support work would be a good idea (shifting it to Working Tax Credits or cutting employers national insurance – the so-called ‘jobs tax’ - would be other possibilities). But the current child poverty measure (which Labour legislated for) would score a shift from CTC to childcare spending as a massive rise in child poverty (because CTC is income, and childcare a free service). Labour would have to either take the political hit from this, or come up with a better measure. Shifting spending from housing benefit is obviously much harder. You need to move nearly 700 people off housing benefit altogether to finance the building of one council house. Housing benefit claimants are only a quarter of private renters, so squeezing spend won’t bring down prices that much, and a little bit more spent on social housing certainly won’t be enough to hold down soaring rents. Given that the majority of new homes are privately built, Labour needs much greater clarity on how it would get the private sector to build much, much more. There is a huge opportunity for Labour here, as Labour voters are less likely to be home owners. But I think that opportunity is yet to be tapped. A more contributory welfare system in which what you get out reflects what you paid in is a great idea. But how will we get people to run up the pots of savings that this requires? We could top slice other types of welfare spending, but one way or another the money needs to come from somewhere. So far I don’t think I have heard where? A big but neglected part of the welfare debate is about how job centres work and what we ask from claimants in return for their benefits ("conditionality" in the jargon). We know from other countries that asking more from claimants can reduce unemployment. There is more that can be done to identify the needs of each claimant, and tailor help and conditions like work requirements accordingly. With this in mind I thought that the section on welfare in The Shape of Things to Come was a bit dissapointing, particularly the rejection of the idea that stronger and better conditionality has a big part to play. Labour should be thinking hard about this not because welfare is a political problem for the party, but because conditionality is a big part of the answer to unemployment. It’s worth recalling that at the end of Labour’s time in government there were 4.6 million people on the main out-of-work benefits – almost exactly the same number as when the time series for worklessness started in 1999. Now the lack of money makes radical thinking on this front even more vital. A year ago, a former Blair-era minister told me that he was worried that Labour would win the election, but then wouldn’t have a clue what to do differently if elected. A year on, Labour’s policy rethink so far consists of some interesting ideas, a lot of soaring rhetoric, but very little detail yet. The general election is probably still a little way off. But isn’t it amazing how the time flies by. Is Labour going to be ready in time? › Samsung ruled "not cool" Under Ed Miliband, Labour has promised "the construction of a different economy". Photograph: Getty Images. Neil O'Brien is the director of Policy Exchange. From only £1 per week Subscribe More Related articles The Fire Brigades Union reaffiliates to Labour - what does it mean? John Gray on the future of the state on the NS Podcast Could Labour lose the Oldham by-election?