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Military schools are a terrible idea. Discipline is no substitute for education

As the recipient of a military education, Willard Foxton is well placed to say why Labour's latest policy is a bad idea.

An RAF school in the 1950s. Photo: Getty Images
Military education: an RAF school in the 1950s. Photo: Getty Images

One of the biggest questions in Britain today is what to do to reform the education system. Many people agree with what Lord Skidelsky recently said in an interview with the Guardian, that "politicians have 'f**ked up' our schools at some point in the last twenty years".

So what's the solution to our education system's problems? 

Well, I can say wholeheartedly that it is not military schools. I mean, if you were blindly asked the question "which party, only weeks after an ill-recieved speech about the evils of 'mass immigration', will call for the introduction of military discipline into schools?", I'm guessing the bulk of people would guess the BNP. It's such a ludicrous policy I can barely even believe I'm writing this rebuttal of it. I mean, public services aren't just a Mr Benn style game of dress up. What's next? Firemen as social workers? Ballerinas to run the NHS?

But, yet here we are. There is a certain simplistic charm to the idea that the military can "whip 'em into shape". Indeed, it calls to mind an aging Colonel I once met at a party, who on describing the appalling standard of literacy and numeracy in recruits said "we have to give them a comprehensive education... to make up for their comprehensive education". Sadly, that's not the reality of military education when it's taken outside of the forces. Frequently, the spit and polish, square-bashing aspects of discipline are pushed to the fore, rather than the camaraderie that characterises real military life. 

It all comes down to what is at stake. Recruits are volunteers, and have the knowledge that obeying orders - getting fit, becoming part of the unit, reacting to orders at a moment's notice - could save their life one day, and is a vital part of the profession they aspire to become part of. They have a history to look up to - they are becoming part of something grand that existed before them, and will still be there once they have moved on.

Children have none of these things. What is inspiring for an 18-year-old on a parade ground is pathetic coming from your geography teacher when you've spilled some paint while colouring in Paraguay. One of the most problematic aspects of this is that these schools are being touted as a solution to discipline problems and low aspirations. Most of the ex-military teachers I've spoken to - I have several friends who are ex-forces in the teaching profession - have squirmed at the idea that Hollywood-style military discipline is the answer.

Several of these people teach at some of the toughest schools in London; they were unaninmous in telling me that to rely on military status and military techniques to win respect simply wouldn't work. "Behaviour management in the teaching is different - it isn't about shouting", said one. "What works in a barracks would just escalate most classroom situations". There's also a real question about what being in a military environment does to you as a person. Unquestionably, it regiments and conditions you - to an extent, that's the point. I'm not sure that's a good thing - I wonder whether military discipline can coexist with vital skills we need to teach our children - most notably, critical thinking.

Often, people leave the military with little capability to survive outside of the institutional mindset. That's part of why the rate of homelessness, alcoholism and drug abuse amongst ex-forces personnel is so high. Of course, there are a huge mosaic of complex factors which create that picture - notably the experience of combat and being trained to kill - but the divorce from reality you get from being a cog in a well-oiled machine is part of the picture. Even assuming that military schools do work - and there is some evidence that, under the hype, what is actually being proposed is more sophisticated techniques than Sharpe-esque "Five rounds a minute" drill - the targeting of these schools at deprived areas is one of the aspects that worries me most. 

What will that do to society? Military schools have to cut some things from the curriculum to make room for all the polish and saluting. Quite aside from the cognitive dissonance this produces when the GCSE curriculum requires you to read poems about how war is terrible in the morning, and then requires you to love guns and flags in the afternoon - mine cut drama and arts to make space. What message do we send to our poorest kids if they go to boot camps, while middle class kids get poetry and painting and plays? It's also worth bearing in mind that the uniformed British state - in its various guises as the military "invading Iraq" or "the Feds" patrolling the streets of London - is hardly popular in exactly the communities this is supposed to serve.

This policy has emerged out of a political bind - Labour dislikes the idea of Free Schools, but they are popular. They feel they need an eye-catching education policy to compete. While this policy certainly is "eye-catching" (read: mental), the only people who seem to like the policy are my most hard-right Tory friends. Which probably suggests this one should be politely shelved by the Labour party.

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Juliet's picture

Everything's different today. Children's innocence has been stripped back, there's brainwashing, indoctrination and dumbing down. We need to get back to core values. Discipline can only work when education teaches self-discipline, responsibility for one's own thoughts, motives and actions, not something to be forced on young people with limited outlook. Otherwise it becomes manipulation, for whatever reason.

Merc's picture

All schools should be based on military style. The installation of self-discipline in our society where individuals can be taught the difference between right and wrong is long overdue. The idea of "Bring back National Service" is an ideal that should be restored to our lives.

FerralReserve's picture

People who grew up in a war zone may well think this way, and esp those who then joined the military, "What I had to endure, you should endure" mentality. If anything, war and being in the army should teach us that compassion is the key, not "discipline". The unfortunate thing is that those who lived through war and forces discipline, can often overlook the need for compassion. Toughness has been forced on them, and that's all they know. All too often they become bitter, disenchanted with life. They don't know how to step outside of that way of thinking, and often think that the world owes them something in return and end up taking what they can, in later life. They see young people as soft and having it easy compared to themselves, and resent it. "What do they know? They know nothing!"
It IS hard, but young people today also have it hard. They have different things to endure, different or new lessons to learn. If anything, it's harder for them, because the enemy is not apparent. It's the more insidious enemy of apathy through a sense of nanny-state helplessness, corporate greed and mind control through the media that they have to combat. Their education system is designed to help them fail, and they have to realise these things before they can become self-disciplined adults. If anything - there should be schools for re-awakening their own autonomy, their own spirit, and to encourage inspirational thinking for themselves.

RH47's picture

... and I was just quietly celebrating that Ed Miliband seems to be getting his act together whilst Cameron and Osborne were looking increasingly stupid.

Of course, Skidelsky is right - it is politicians that have "f**cked up our schools" over the past thirty (not twenty) years - and nulabour was as culpable as the Mad Monk and his successor, the oleagenous Baker in this (but at least the latter had a rational - if repulsive - political agenda). For a detached account of the politicians' f**ck-up, made at the half-way point of the process (in Blunkett's period of office), I would highly recommend Nick Davies's 'School Report' (published in 2000 - as right about this as he was about Murdoch et al.). The analysis remains valid 12 years on, and crushes any excuses that the consequences of various policy idiocies were not known and that the effect of further pursuing the same could not be anticipated.

If Miliband wishes the party to remain credible in educational policy formation, he needs to rapidly ditch this simple-minded nonsense and get rid of Twigg, on the grounds that :

(i) After 15 years of the same - with hindsight of what it leads to - if you believe that running after a Tory agenda is clever strategy, you are too stupid to be a shadow Secretary of State.

and

(ii) If you can possibly believe this idea has intrinsic merit .... then ditto.

(No - I won't waste my breath on why it's stupid - it's too obvious. Except to say that in the terrible, supposedly 'progressive' (spit) 1970s, discipline in the vast majority of schools was not a particular issue. In 2012, schools in general face much harder challenges in this area. What has happened?

..... Yep - that era of right-wing social policy (an odd mixture of centralisation and ne0-liberalism with a flavouring of good old-fashioned privilege securitisation.)

Barrie J's picture

The exposure of 'think tanks' is long overdue, their members and the source of their funding need to be transparent.
Many taxpayer pounds get channeled into 'charities' courtesy of different government departments, this is also an area likely to be much abused.
Atlantic Bridge
The Charities Commission need to toughen up and start looking a bit more carefully at the charitable status of these 'so called' think tanks.
I fully expect no action.

Anderson Spike's picture

"What works in a barracks would just escalate most classroom situations".

I can vouch for this. Teaching requires a completely different approach. It's good to see an article busting the myths about army discipline. It's particularly edifying to see that it is support by evidence from those with experience of both fields.

Red Rain's picture

What's truly terrible is the number of state funded Religious schools set-up by the previous Labour government and that closet Catholic Tory Blair. But moving on, without discipline in many shambolic state schools, you simply wouldn't get an education; good and bright kids deserve that.

Mr Jub Jub's picture

Let's bring back the cain and go to town on some bottoms...it's for the good of the bright and good kids!

Finally we'd be able to go back to the good old days, when teachers can strike children.

Red Rain's picture

We can always stay in the present where Children strike the teachers? We can build as many palaces to eduction and pay teachers doctor's wages, but with-out basic discipline you'll find no teaching: no rising standards.

EH's picture

So, your argument consists of a dinner party conversation, 'some friends' and the problem of pupils learning more than one opinion? Hardly a rigorous challenge...

Mr Jub Jub's picture

Should an idea this stupid even need to be challenged?

This is like the idea to have failed investment bankers become teachers. Some ideas are so utterly idiotic that people should simply laugh at the bizarre fact that they were spoken aloud, and then move.

hugh markey's picture

The USA is and has been replete with 'military' schools. Didn't help much in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan.

Looking like a tailor's mannequin is not much good when bullets are flying.

Damascus Steel

Posh Tosh's picture

Mr Cameron went to Eton and then Oxon.

Funny how he became a public relations tea - boy before he never got a job.

Posh Tosh's picture

Mr Cameron went to Eton and then Oxon.

Funny how he became a public relations tea - boy before he never got a job.

Dark Heart of Toryland's picture

Labour have completely lost the plot. The idea of military discipline is to produce unthinking automatons who will obey orders to kill without hesitation, and who won't run away when they are being shot at. Who - apart from deranged reactionaries who still mourn the passing of the fifties - could conceivably imagine that this would be a useful preparation for civilian life in the twenty-first century? It's utterly fuck-witted.

Seti's picture

An education policy in four words: Small Classes, Small Schools. It's good enough for the posh knobs at Eton, so it should be good enough for the toughies of North Peckham.

Seti's picture

An education policy in four words: Small Classes, Small Schools. It's good enough for the posh knobs at Eton, so it should be good enough for the toughies of North Peckham.

Barry Ewart's picture

Respublica - a group of m class Stinkers?
When what we need is a World of critical thinkers!
Education should be fun, not a chore that"s dutiful.
But where we seek, "The truth, the good and the beautiful".

Silican's picture

ResPublica, another 'think tank', so many of which appear to be lobby groups that have managed to get charitable status, is the source of this policy. An interesting insight into ResPublica's workings appears here: http://crashbangwallace.com/2012/03/14/exclusive-leak-phillip-blond-dono...

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