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What Ed M should and shouldn't learn from TB.
Tags: Ed Miliband David Cameron Labour Tony Blair
As usual, some good points, many bad ones.
In short, Blair is the man to speak to for strategy, but it doesn't matter who Ed is being advised by... He will not be able to win a general election. He will never be prime minister. Deep down, everybody knows it, and the sooner he resigns, the better.
It will never happen.
Whatever you think of Blair he was a winner. He was also very lucky too. Right Time Right Rhetoric. So I have no roblems with him being consulted by Ed Milliband. I agree totally with his premise that the Lib Dems are finished and this is nothing but a NASTY (my words) Tory Government and not a very good one either. (My words)
Cameron is a cheap salesman. Nothing but vacuous sales patter comes out of his mouth. He is truly a "Hollow Man" and the Tory Right Wing know it too but they have got nothing else. Boy Georgie is an underhanded machiavellian politician who will plumb the depths to gain political advantage. He has NO GAUL This generation of Tory politicians truly are the hideous bastard Children of Thatcher. Empty and lacking in any substance. I can imagine that Mummy T would be very disappointed in her "deformed" children.
The Labour party is dead, no one is mourning.
Something Ed should of been doing at the start of his leadership, Love Blair or Loathe him he knew how to win elections its no different to Cameron getting advice from madge when he became leader of the Tories surely this is just standard practice except its taken EM 18 months to realise this!
35%? One in five? They were bloody right about Britons having poor maths skills...
Blackbuster "... started with a blank page"
Er no. He started with Union support and the legacy of the Labour Project.
Miliband is all about spin bandwagons and no values/ principles/ strategy.
So his current position after 18 months: "a blank page"
I think Tony will be encouraging Mili to invade a few Muslim countries.
This would be a good thing, no ?
Muslims live like animals, so we shouldn't be too timid about this.
ELMORE DISCO !!!
I think you forget that not everybody votes in General Elections.
Therefore, what Mehdi Hamas says about %35 and one-in-five is not a mistake.
Plenty of people stay at home, y'see.
I don't particularly the bigoted Mehdi Hamas, but that doesn't mean he cannot count.
Your *joke* is not very funny, it seems to me.
Excuse me. That should read:
"I don't particularly like the bigoted Mehdi Hamas, but that doesn't mean he cannot count."
I forgot the word LIKE. Forgive me.
Miliband needs efficiency, vision, honesty and integrity. He also needs economists who know how to plan an economy for the long-term. How could Tony Blair help in this respect? The Blair years were a well-orchestrated mirage - replete with spin, acting and obfuscation.
Jankass: '[Blair is] a living breathing example of just how awful an animal we are'
Tell me Jankaas, Sadaam wasn't the above?
Jankaas, the first spelling of your name/moniker was unintentional. Apologies. So don't start...
Mehdi - Ed Miliband's problem is his image and record: he does not inspire anyone, he does not enthuse anyone, he doesnt make me feel better about Labour (and I have been a Labour voter!)...just like Gordon Brown, in fact!
He comes over like an eager to please geeky whiny public schoolboy with no charm, charisma, rigour, or, crucially, practical experience...how can it be that most non-affluent voters connect more with always-rich born-rich never-had-to work-a day-in-their-lives upper class millionaires like Clegg, Cameron, Osborne, Boris Johnson..than with state school-educated Miliband?
THAT is his problem, one I dont think even charisma-overloaded Blair can change...
Tony Blair was the original Spin prime minister it is good Ed is taking advice from him lets face it Cameron is Murdoch's puppetand intelligent people can see through it.But labour need more than spin to win in 2015, it needs a credible economic stratagy , one thing it is really lacking at present. I fear Ed Balls is not the man for the job, I would bring Darling back because he came out with more credibility after the last general election, he knew labour should have made cut there and then rather than waiting for the Tories to take the credit...
"Blair benefited from a voting system that is biased in favour of the Labour Party"
You can't blame the Labour party if the Tory vote is concentrated in a small part of the county and the Labour vote is spread more widely. And if you are, then pesumably you've got a fix. What you going to do? Relocate voters so there is an equal spread throughout the county for all the parties.
It's a positively dumb thing to say but what you come to expcect from Mehdi Hasan who is prepared to go to any skewed lengths of thought just to skewer Blair.
And no, I'm not a Blairite nor ever was.
Toryism as usual by Gussie Fink-Nottle then.
well cameron is on track to lose the next general election, despite his attempts to present himself well, the somewhat obvious incompetence of the coalition is hardening opposition to him.
my view is that there will be a large number of people who want cameron out, and a small number who want to keep him, and another small group who want him to be even more right wing.
so there is a large space just left of centre for miliband to work in, but the problem he has is a bit like the post thatcher tory party, which is just full of right wing nutcases, as the wets were driven out.
the problem miliband has it that the tory wets shifted to the labour party and called themselves blairites, and displcaed natural labour supporters.
so miliband has to appeal to an anti cameron alliance, and not be pushed into going down the wet tory blairite route of trying to win tory voters, there aren't actually that many of them, that will leave, and miliband is ahead in the polls, just, he needs to make sure those people vote for him, and thats all. all he needs to do is get the vote out, and consolidate the support he has.
but i bet blair will try and push him to be more like cameron, which will de motivate some of those who want cameron out, who may be demotivated if they see him as no different.
Mehdi Hasan is a contributing writer for the New Statesman and the co-author of Ed: The Milibands and the Making of a Labour Leader. He was the New Statesman's senior editor (politics) from 2009-12.