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Facts don't count for nearly as much as spin. They spin so-called "facts" and these become facts. Mehdi is refreshing. Shame his facts only make for good copy.
We've done it all to ourselves.
Lisa, read the link you posted to DWP figures, basically it made me angry. The figures for fraud and error are linked together..why should that be. Over payments for instance are they errors or just the system?
The process of claiming industrial injuries disablement benefit is quite long winded, so when one eventually gets it and notifies the local authority , you then have to have your Housing benefit reassessed that also takes time, and hey presto you have an over payment..which is sorted by using the backdated benefit payment. So the system ensures many of these anomalies have to exist.
@Quattro Man. I paid my insurance premiums,so I'll take great pleasure in thinking of you working away to pay for my life style... Happy Christmas.
Quattro - happy Christmas. C yoU Next Tuesday.
I liked Question Time (there were no Lib Dems, thank God!) but it was quite interesting. Claire Perry was awful, just sucking too Dimbleby like she wanted to do to John Bercow, and she just wants to be a Treasury minister. However, on work culture, I think Briscoe was not too wrong, although she was rather incorrect. There is this culture where idleness is encouraged. I liked Mehdi and Tristram Hunt's analysis of the situation, though it is ashame that the living wage was not mentioned. I must say that Lord Wolfson should join the Labour Party.
I find it incredible that anyone can be a Europhile. Including Mehta Hasan & Tristram Hunt on Question Time. Here's why... Saving for a holiday next year are we ?
Every tax payer in UK pays a £1 a day to our communist friends in Brussels who of course being typically left wing live a very nice lifestyle at the workers (EU taxpayers) expense having made careers out of being philanthropic with other people's money.
What to they do for their huge salaries & index linked pensions?
Well here's an example.
Spend millions rebuilding Budapest sewerage works. Yes folks. I can understand W.Germany spending billions of Deutchmarks to re build E.Germany after the wall came down. But do you really want your money spent to improve sewage works 1500 miles away ?
Get the politicians & EUrEaUcrats out of the way & we can have free trade can't we.
You know where you buy from the cheapest & sell to the highest.
That is a market place. Market places exist in spite of EUrEaUcrats & politicians... not because of them.
Their con trick has been to try & make people believe they are essential to make a free market work. They are not. All they do is mop up £46,000,000 a day of our money.
They are total parasites. They've screwed up the market by forcing a currency on everyone that doesn't work & by encouraging massive unbalanced lending on the false premise that lending stimulates growth. No it doesn't. It just makes builders & developers rich for a while until the generally pointless projects they were working stop. Then it's back to growing tomatoes & olives to try & pay back to Billions to the Loan shark bankers & their politician friends who conned them.
I see "Angela Merkel believes Brussels should decide whether national budgets are fiscally sound"Like they did with Spain, Greece, Italy & Portugal before letting them join the Euro & borrow billions of Euros they could never repay !!!!!!!!!
The significance of Geographical location has been hugely exagerated by Europhiles. We can do business with the world. Buy from the cheapest & sell for the highest. What difference does it make how close the country is.
Heres' a few of the reasons the electorate should be incensed that Cameron refused us a referendum on the EU.
1] Evermore over crowding.
2] A troubled currency we are insnared with
3] Fish thrown back into the North sea even though they've died in the nets, once quotas are reached for a particular species.
4] Language problems. Example, my mother in law is in a nursing home on the IOW staffed by East Europeans. She can hardly understand them & the can hardly understand her. Yet good communication is essential in giving good care.
5] High levels of crime committed by nomads who can wander from one EU country to another now including the UK now our borders are freely open to 400 million people.
6] Child Beggars, sex traffickers & pick pockets from Romania.
7] More competition for insufficient homes & scarce jobs.
8] More road congestion
9] 10% of our orchards bulldozed into the ground cos the Eurocrats decided there's over production of apples in the Euro zone, regarless of whether we happen to like Brit apples!
10] Huge cost of £30 an hour translators in courtrooms & classrooms disrupting the education of our kids.
11] Fat cat 'job for life plus index linked pension' eurocrats who feast on our taxes but produce nothing but red tape in return.
12] £46,000,000 a day we give to the EU & get nothing but dictats in return. It will be £41 billion over the next 5 years ! Twice what it was for the last 5 years under the previous government. Money we desperately need for our schools & our hospitals etc
13] It's a myth we need to be in the EU to trade with Europe. The Swiss do very nicely trading with Europe whilst at the same time enjoying the freedoms of not being in the EU. Ironically EU red tape makes it harder to do business with the EU. Yet we voted originally only for a common market to supposedly make trade easier.
14] We've lost the right to make our own laws.
15] The latest dictat from Brussels means companies like
Tescos have to reduce the number of part time workers. Regardless of whether it's suits them & their employees such as mums wanting to only work part time.
16] East Europeans claiming child benefits for children that aren't even in the UK.
17] Our legal system hamstrung with human rights legislation issuing forth from UN ELECTED EU judges, with terrorist bombers having more human rights than their victims. Also in respect of repatriating criminals.
18] The accountants refuse to sign off the EU accounts because of huge discrpancies & money that can't be accounted for.
19] In Southampton we lost the Dimplex factory because they got a fat subsidy from Brussels to move to Ireland. Bournemouth lost the Johnson & Johnson factory too. It's all part of the Pol Pot EU philosophy that everywhere has to be equal. Namely it's not enough the Ireland should remain a green & pleasant farming land.
No... instead Ireland has to have by dictat exactly the same number of factories per sq mile as everywhere else. Uniformity rules according to the Autocratic Euro crats. This must be going on nationwide. These are just two examples I happen to know of because they are local.
How many other jobs we've been robbed of by Brussels. So we pay a Euro subsidy of To add to the farce, some of the trainees that came from Ireland to learn the ropes in the Johnson & Johnson factory before it moved to Ireland, didn't even turn up for half the training sessions cos they'd been out on the booze every night.
Then some of them decided they didn't even want to go back to Ireland. Laughable if it wasn't such a waste of our money !
No businessman in their right mind would move for the sake of it using their own money. But when some little job for life burEaUcrats in brussels who couldn't run a whelk stall, throw our money at this sort of thing.
How can any rational person possible think the EU is a good thing. It's the same kind of insanity that happened under Stalin.
We live in the EUSSR !
John Redwood’s EU speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ybR_OesyA
Housing benefit is called Local Housing Allowance, it's paid to the tenants of private landlords. Usually into a account.
More than 1 in 8 people are claiming it if you take account of rapidly rising unemployment.
Social housing tenants do not get it.
HB covers social housing as well apparently. And it's paid for service charges.
LHA is for private tenants.
Why not explain this more clearly?
Thought the chap from Next was head and shoulders above anyone else. All the facts and figures that Mehdi was sprouting is what you expect from minority fringe group activists and the loony left. Not linked to the real world, hence Mehdi came across as a rather sad, desperate, slightly comical figure.
I found last nights QT very upsetting. Wofsons comments about the fraudulent behaviour of disability benefits claiments was not only factually incorrect as has already been pointed out, but fitted well into the current vilification of the sick and disabled. No one, not even you, even attempted to correct him and you say in your article that you were 'impressed' with him. It seems no one is ready to stand up for the sick and/or disabled except themselves.
You're version of the real world is one where CEOs and big wigs like the chap from next take extra normal pay and do their best to retain the status quo through solid performance, like that one last night, in front of the media and their investors.
Is it lunacy to highlight the facts that provide evidence of poor policy?
An excellent performance from Mehdi, full of passion (and no "sprouting"), so much better than career politicians.
Once again, an unbalanced panel on QT, with three Tories.
Every time you have been on this show I have felt sick to my stomach. You really are arrogant - always back-chatting other people, interrupting, pulling faces while they speak... You are the most unpleasant and condescending individual I've ever had the displeasure of seeing on Question Time - and that even includes Nick Griffin. At least he isn't taken seriously and is not arrogant. You, on the other hand, clearly have delusions of grandeur and an unfounded arrogance about you.
It's a shame Douglas Murray wasn't on there to put you in your place, like he has in the past. Or perhaps even a greater shame that you've never had to debate someone who would wipe the floor with you at your own game, do a far better job, and offer a valid argument while he's at it...someone like Christopher Hitchens.
Hey quattro man. "loony left" haven't heard that one for a while. cliche my dear friend. Like your moniker, why not just call yourself audiman or TTman you tit!!
Calm down dear ! If you want to be taken seriously, you've got to stop talking about "Communists in Brussels".I can imagine the foam on your mouth. Europe is a capitalist contruct. There are no more communists there that there are in the British house of commons.
Oh and if all the money goes to some undeserving obscure country, how come 26 countries have no objection to that but you Brits do?? Do you honestly believe that only Britain defends its own interest? do you honestly believe they are all stupid out there and only the Brits can see sense?? How arrogantly stupid of you! Of course everybody defends their own interest and wants to preserve their own freedoms and their own identity. The only thing is that sometimes cooperation and pooling resources just does that, it makes the individual countries stronger.But I know that solidarity and cooperation are alien concepts to the Daily Mail readers.So I don't expect you to understand that Robin.
You are, I'm afraid, a deluded xenophobic wretched soul full of hate, my friend, and you should seek help. All this bile is not good for your health.
Are you facts really facts?
According to the ONS Labour Market Statistics: November 2011
"Average total pay (including bonuses) was £463 per week in September 2011"
That seems rather a long way from your figure of £600.90 and makes the JSA at 14.1% of that, much higher than 2000's 12.2%.
If you are going to claim factual superiority you really need to get your facts right.
Quattro man - abuse is the last refuge of the defeated.
You've not come back with a single constructive counter argument to any of the 19 points I make.
You are not objective. You resort to childish insults due to lack of facts or rational counter arguments.
The big dismissive cliche from the mouths of those with no debating skills & no knowledge of what they are talking about being 'I must be a Daily Mail reader' so somehow that would make everything I say as meaningless.
BTW capitalism doesn't involve unaccountable politicians & EUrEaUcrats dishing out billions of pounds/Euros of taxpayers money to anyone or any thing that takes their fancy. That is communism... like it or not.
The difference between the corrupt FIFA & the EU is at least the accountants were prepared to sign off FIFA's accounts.
I can only assume you enjoy having your money stolen from you by these people in Brussels.
Our great leader and founder of the revolutionary coalition party - Dave will be delighted with Mehdi. Mehdi's views articulate precisely how the revolutionary coalition party want Labour to be perceived...loony and to the left...therefore unelectable. Keep up the good work Mehdi.
How representative was this 'research' quoted by Dimbleby regarding benefits ? Were those asked told what the figures are ? As stated by Mr. Hasan UK unemployment benefit rates are at an all time historic low and far lower that in other European countries. I have written a fully researched article about this at :
Confident performance as usual Mehdi, I was laughing and fuming at Ms Briscoe!, how could anyone in such a powerful position 'Judge' openly give such extreme and prejudicial views?, Isn`t she supposed to be objective and impartial?, In a court of law her views would be classed as Supposition and Hear say, and they would be Inadmissible?, yet, she was spewing them out as fact!, very strange!!, I think she`ll look back at this and see it was car crash viewing!, a remark that also applied to Carol Vorderman, she also made a total show of herself on Q.T a couple of years ago, she`s back to appearing on award shows!, Ms Briscoe would make an ideal pundit for Fox News!, they also spew out Hatred and Venom 24hrs a day.
I have not attempted to debate with you for the same reason I don't debate with fascists. I don't owe you any counter arguments because yours are not rational but based on prejudice and ignorance.
There isn't much to say to someone who thinks the European project is a communist project.This proposition is just bonkers.End of discussion.
Mehdi Hasan is a contributing writer for the New Statesman and the co-author of Ed: The Milibands and the Making of a Labour Leader. He was the New Statesman's senior editor (politics) from 2009-12.