Daniel "Zionist right wing hate mob"
Zionist. I'm not even Jewish.. "right wing" Whats right wing about opposing religious fascism, and the useful idiots that support them?

Ramadan is over. The semi leader of the cult of Islam can now write something.

Richard Albright quotes Amnesty International which condemns Hezbollah's rockets. Humm.... Yesterday you or one of your Zionist mates was saying that Amnesty was "infiltrated by communists" and was completely biased against Israel.
Make up your minds guys!
the truth is you say WHATEVER suits your fanatical beliefs
and you don't even care if you contradict yourselves on the same web page.
I am glad that more people have joined the "debate" so I don't get all the insults and some valid points are finally being made despite the Zionist trolls.
Halim Hudin and Arthur O'connor in particular have made excellent contributions.
And lucky you , you haven't been called names like "Islamo-fascist" and "Nazi anti-semite"..yet.

What about the jewish judge who condemned an Arab guy for rape because he had a sexual relationship with a Jewish woman ? But because he didn't tell her he was an Arab, she reported him for "rape" and the judge agreed.
What do you call that? And how disgusting is that?
Of course the Jewish state isn't crazy enough to maintain an official Apartheid system like in South-Africa and nobody is saying it does.It would look unacceptable and they couldn't get away with it today.
But the reality is that Arabs are discriminated against and badly treated and if not an official one, there is an Apartheid system operating in Israel today.
I could find many Amnesty reports confirming this but you wouldn't like those would you Richard Allbright?

Marcus Bessner
15 September 2011 at 13:33

"As always Marcus - succinctly put. I agree with you entirely. They are my sentiments too."

Marcus are you agreeing with yourself? I cant seem to find the Marcus you are referring to.

Perle is being disingenuous. I'm sure it's true that Israel does not contravene that many UN resolutions. This is in large part because most critical resolutions are vetoed by the US; in this way, the colony of Jewish and non-Jewish immigrants can carry on happily with their land-thievery and repression of the natives.

People like Richard Perle are definately in denial, they know they are in the wrong but if they can stare straight eyed into the camera and tell a lie often enough people may believe them! They hope!

As I have mentioned before on similar posts; the day the US disengages from Israel will be the day they will no longer fear terrorist attacks.

It sounds simple doesn't it, yet many of the US congressmen are having very difficult traumers over it!

I don't see this as a religious issue, I see it as a legal and moral one, Israel is in contravention of UN resolution 242 and the Geneva convention.

It is an issue of MORAL JUSTICE.

If the USSR (former communist Russia) had not have fallen, they may have taken up the moral initiative, then it would not have been percieved by the world as 'the Christian West vs The Moslem East'

Unfortunately that is how the issue is being painted and without involving religion Mehdi Hasan is 100% in the right.

I agree with Olijaan about the need to remove offensive posts. First and foremost to be banned should be the racist Islamist supremacist Mehdi Hasan who makes vile offensive remarks about 'non-Moslems living like animals', Kaffirs, homosexuals and women. It's all on YouTube so he can't deny it. He should be sacked. Next should be the neo-nazi Islamist scum who get a kick out of equating Jews with nazis, the Romans and Apartheid south Africa. If these scum are allowed to persist with their race hatred against Jews ... well the Islamist NS and it's cohorts can go fuck themselves.

I see that the deranged anti-Semite Daniele is back. A very warm Sieg Heil to you.And 'John Woods' referring to 'hordes of semi nude slags' catching VD. Therefore we non-Moslems presumably do "live like animals". Is 'John Woods' really the racist Islamist bigot Mehdi Hasan. I'd much rather that our women had the freedom to wear what they like as opposed to them being stoned to death as they are in primitive savage Islamist states. Islamist settlers like MH really should consider dismantling their colonial settlements in UK cities they despise so much and returning to the paradise of apartheid racist pakistan

Daniele: precisely. I know you yourself have been singled out for a lot of abuse over a long period. Personally I stopped commenting here for quite a while and only took it up again a couple of days ago - simply because I don't see why an excellent site should be abandoned to a vocal abusive few, as people are simply put off by this unpleasantness.

I still (perhaps naively) hold a belief in the existence of a silent, moral majority. I just wish they wouldn't be quite so silent though...

Daniel Do you also believe in UFOs and little green men from Mars. 9/11 had nothing to do with a fundamentalist religion perhaps, and everything to do with the great Jewish conspiracy for world dominance. Or is it, the New World Order. Or are you just another Red-Nazi.

Stu. totally agree lets start with Daniele intolerant bigoted rants.

Coleridge. Please stop using hurtful words, intolerant Daniele gets upset. Killing Jews is one thing, but swearing is not acceptable in her twisted world

This is a good informative piece of journalism, and it's important stuff - it's correcting, with referencing through appropriate research, the misinformation a geezer who I've never heard of apparently dished out with (more or less) impunity on the telly (?) the other night, plus providing further (referenced) information on the subject that was under discussion on top of that. So what's with all the ranting, chaps?

I may have missed some, but I didn't notice much 'opinion' or 'comment', therefore would have thought that a) the character of the writer isn't relevant, and b) implications of bias are unsustainable, since the information given cannot really be regarded as reflecting the writer in some way. It can't even be hauled over the coals for that most journalistic of all biases - the choice of WHAT is actually given column space, since it is a response to something already aired.

I find it extremely reassuring to know that someone is correcting broadcast statements so patently untrue that the contrary can be plainly demonstrated - statements made by someone who could have (and presumably has had) a huge impact on the world in which we live. This is stuff we really need to know.

I am also glad to be informed that the 'two most senior officials' of the official report on 9/11 in the US , Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, were later to explain: "This was sensitive ground ...Commissioners who argued that al-Qa'ida was motivated by a religious ideology - and not by opposition to American policies - rejected mentioning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict... In their view, listing US support for Israel as a root cause of al-Qa'ida's opposition to the United States indicated that the United States should reassess that policy."

So 'listing US support for Israel as a root cause of al-Qa'ida's opposition to the United States indicated that the United States should reassess that policy' and this was identified by the two most senior officials of the official report on 9/11 as the prime motivation for excluding it (except as an addendum/footnote) from what was supposed to be an honest truth finding.

Whatever anyone's view on US (govt) support for Israel (govt), these are important facts about the motivations and intentions of the governing bodies of the (currently) most powerful nation on earth, and they are facts that the peoples of the world should note.

It is pretty scary that people wielding such a level of power over us all find it so utterly impossible to reassess their attitudes and policies, and must call into serious doubt any integrity they profess.

Daniele, your a silly little girl. If you cant filter the wheat from the chaf you decide to run to teacher and impose your own censorship and curtail free speech.

There are no trolls here, everyone has a point of view. The fact you find it hard to make a point that people agree with is your own problem.

Your line is exactly the kind of dangerous curtailment of information and spreading the truth - exactly what the Islamic supremacist want..silence those who criticise Islam.

You can say what you want about Israel I dont care. I know my ideals and views are better than yours so when I read them I will argue my points to dispel your misinformed judgements.

Its called free speech, your a sad little cow if your really asking that only views that are written in a cutesy polite way and that fit with Medhi's and the NS narrow view of things, how utterly pointless to have a forum like that.

If its too much for you here maybe go on the HEAT magazine website and you can comment on Boyonce's bump or J Lo's latest outfit.

@daniele as long as the left have a policy of 'my enemie's enemy is my friend' then they will, by default (with respect to the EDL)end up in bed with radical islam.

have you read peter tatchel's account of the recent tower hamlets marches? it's an eye-opener.

Daniele. Islam fulfills many criteria of the definition of terrorism. The following irrefutable facts and deductive logic will amply demonstrate my statement. Ever since Islam was founded it has left behind a legacy of violent atrocities and horrendous crimes. Their holy book the Koran, contains specific instructions on how to loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture and murder in order to further the interests of Islam . It can clearly be called a specific instruction manual of terrorism. This is what the small state of Isael faces on a daily basis. The Holy Koran is full of very unholy and terrorist ambitions, it is obviously not from A God of love, as the Muslims would have you believe. Any (sane) individual can see that it is a journal and collection of a terrorist’s criminal activities and ideas. This terrorist’s name is Mohammed (popularly known as the prophet of Islam). During his lifetime, Mohammed organized at least 80 expeditions against people who either refused to follow his teachings or simply got in the way of his power crazed ambitions. He led the life of a serial killer, terrorist and rapist, who perpetrated genocide throughout Arabia. Along with the pagan Arabs, many Jews and Christians were victims of this mindless terrorist. Mohammed was a man who destroyed peace wherever he went, and in its place brought terror, carnage and death. And he did all this in the name of God! Mohammed has clearly stated in the Koran that God has instructed him and all pious Muslims to loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture and murder innocent human beings, in order to further the interests of Islam. You yourself say "Nobody on the left likes radical Islam. Personally I hate it"
So why are you continuously defending it? Why do you support Hamas, and hate the democratic state of Israel.

Luddite

In view of your comment in reply to Daniele, I've had a re-read Daniele's, lets get away from what the Nazis did to the Jews and many others as an excuse for Israel to behave as they do. If this were an Arab State violating Christian neighbours as Israel does you would be marching on Parliament.

All racial oppression is wrong Iran is wrong to presecute the Bahai's and Israel is wrong for expelling the Palestinians from their homelands.

I mean the issue isn't rocket science is it, two wrongs don't make a right.

Judging from the posts above it seems to be awfully hard work justifying what is wrong.

The UN needs to be given more power because the US has been downright duplicitious!!!

Mehdi Hasan - do these people make you feel proud??? I call them Filth

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14852637

So why all the hate? Daniele is definitely of the left, The truth is like disinfectant. Like bacteria, much of the propaganda, lies, and failed philosophies that the left are pushing are being disinfected by open and honest debate. Since they cannot defend their arguments on their own merits, the only thing they can do is silence free speech, that's probably the reason the left and intolerant Islam have so much in common.

Tariq Ali kept blaming Western powers for propping up Arab dictatorships, and you got the feeling that the West was to blame for all the problems in the Middle East and South Asia. If he hates the West so much, why does he live in Highgate, presumably comfortably? He's lived in this country for many years now, and if he hates this country and what is stands for so much, maybe he should leave? It's a shame, because some of his comments made sense, but he ruined it by jumping into an anti-Western rant.

Of course the Jewish state isn't crazy enough to maintain an official Apartheid system like in South-Africa and nobody is saying it does"

"But the reality is that Arabs are discriminated against and badly treated and if not an official one, there is an Apartheid system operating in Israel today"

You are saying Israel is operating a Apartheid system! Make-up your mind Daniele!! Israel isn't operating a Apartheid system officially or unofficially and you fully know that you lier.

Amnesty International lost all credibility when it stopped being impartial.

Stuart Eels: 'get away from what the Nazis did to the Jews' That maybe easy for you to say!! 'Arab State violating Christian neighbours' They do all the time, are you completely brain-dead. There's always something sinisterly nasty about Jew haters such as yourself. Like i said to Daniele, the days of killing Jews and laughing about it, are over!!

Thats right Halim Uddin, you keep apologising and making excuses for killing in the name of Islam, Muslims are never accountable for there own actions, they only thing left open to them is to kill eachother inhorrific ways.
If it is all the fault of Iraq, maybe you’d like to explain why are currently and for a long time Muslims slaughtering Hindu’s in India? Why are they slaughtering Buddhists in Indonesia and Thailand? Why are they murdering Adonists in South Sudan? Copts in Egypt? The list goes on...

Israel is a beacon of light in a region controlled by ruled by Muslim Madmen.

Daniele, can you respond to the detail of Coleridge's posts at 14:23? Or is anyone who quotes facts with which you disagree a deranged nutter?
Do you really think your one-sided and selective view of israel's internal politics and it's relationships with it's neighbours is indicative of anything except your own bigotry?

Israelis can’t expect to be immune to criticism and outlaw comparisons with Nazis and yet themselves feel free to sound off just like them. How many times have I heard Israelis say ‘ we need to finish with these people once and for all’. I remember the last (fifth) bloody invasion of Lebanon. ‘we’re going to put an end to Hezbollah once and for all!’. They failed, but that doesn’t stop the inflammatory language. Read the posts in Haaretz. Blood-curdling threats to Palestinians which often sound ominously like the Final Solution. So while Israel doesn’t have death-camps, a lot of Israelis sound as though they would like to. Their foreign minister, probably, the amiable Avigdor Lieberman, who himself once defended the power of the state, even the Nazi one.
Besides, Nazi history was not just about death camps. There were the crimes of Nazi occupied Europe, and these do recall Israeli-occupied Palestine. Destruction of farms and infrastructure, public buildings, seizure of property, expulsions, hijacking of water and precious resources, demolitions, even of whole villages, abductions, assassinations, secret prisons, constant humiliation of the natives by the invaders... etc. Not very different from a Nazi occupation.
The claim that Israel is small is silly. It’s like saying the poor little Falklands: just 2000 inoffensive mutton-eaters facing the might of Argentina. Well, little Israel is part of the greatest military machine in the world, the US. But things are changing, with the rise of other powers like Turkey and the new Egypt. They seem a little more ready to challenge the insolence of this ‘little’ state.