PMQs review: Miliband bests Cameron over phone-hacking
It was a bravura performance from the Labour leader.
By Mehdi Hasan Published 06 July 2011 14:13Those of us who have long argued that Ed Miliband has a steely side and shouldn't be underestimated or written off are feeling rather pleased with ourselves this afternoon.
Miliband chewed up and spat out David Cameron in one of his finest performances at the despatch box so far, leaving the Prime Minister in full "Flashman" mode: testy, irritated, veins near bulging point, getting pinker and pinker with each irate and defensive answer.
The session was a game of two halves: the first had Miliband quiet, serious, speaking on behalf of the public, asking for a public inquiry into hacking -- and getting one! -- and expressing disgust with the latest phone-hacking allegations. The second half saw him go after Cameron personally, calling on the Prime Minister to join him in demanding the resignation of the News International boss, Rebekah Brooks -- a close personal friend and regular dining parter of Cameron -- denouncing the PM's decision to employ the former News of the World editor Andy Coulson as his director of communications (a post from which Coulson resigned only in January) and urging the coalition government to refer Rupert Murdoch's bid to buy all of BSkyB to the Competition Commission.
Ahead of PMQs, the BBC's deputy political editor, James Landale, observed:
Ed Miliband has two options in terms of tactics on hacking. He can choose to be political, attacking David Cameron over his judgement in employing Andy Coulson, or he can position himself as the voice of the people, focusing on the public revulsion at some of the most recent revelations.
The Labour leader threw out the rule book and decided to do both. It worked. Cameron spent much of the exchange on the defensive, unable to offer convincing answers or rebuttals and falling back on the tired and now discredited response of: "Let the police do their work." The verdict of the political Twitterati was in before he'd sat down after his last question: Ed Miliband 1, David Cameron 0.
Here's the Sky News political editor, Adam Boulton:
PMQs: EM wipes the floor with DC on #phonehacking #NotW #Skymerger. DC backs inquiries but ducks on Rebekah, Coulson and merger referral
Here's his Sky News colleague Jon Craig:
Ed Miliband's best PMQs yet? The view of a few of us in the Press Gallery. Well argued, calm, reasoned. Had Cameron on defensive & rattled.
Here's the ITV News political editor, Tom Bradby:
He was stronger, more confident, more authoritative and more convincing than he has ever been. He may just have saved his leadership.
And then there's Charlie Brooker, who asked:
Who knew Miliband had a "Hulk" mode?
A simple answer: James Macintyre and I did.
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34 comments
If only he'd shown that fire on behalf of the sick & disabled, public sector workers and everyone else suffering under this horrible coalition. I just wish he'd do real stuff like this, not 'squeezed middle' focus-group pap.
@frances smith - That is because Kings, Queens, PMs and Presidents do not really rule countries.
Influencers rule countries because they can control the opinion of the masses, the great unwashed as someone once said.
People are easy to influence and Murdoch is a master of this.
None of the above makes it right, so i am not defending him. Its just a sad truth about society.
After employing Coulson, Cameran was a sitting duck - anyone could have attacked him on this amongst the other things and come out on top.
The revealing thing is that if Milliband does well it has to be commented on as if it is a supsrise.
You supported Ed Milliband for leadership and you have written a Biography - so you are so blinded to the truth as it is in your interest for him to succeed. The truth is he is a terrible leader, a terrible communicator and not media freindly.
Hmm, I've heard these glowing reports of Miliband's PMQs performances in the New Statesman by his cheerleaders before. And as I've said before, if you go elsewhere you'll here a different story. I haven't listened to it yet but The Spectator unsurprisingly said it was very close ...
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7074758/pmqs-live-blog.thtml
One other point: The Speccie gives an appraisal of PMQs every week yet we only hear about it on the NS website when Miliband's had one of his better weeks. Funny that.
LANGUAGE GAME
so you are so blinded to the truth as it is in your interest for him to succeed. The truth is he is a terrible leader, a terrible communicator and not media freindly.
____________________________ If Miliband is any of those things then Cameron is a lot worse and and majors in mendacity.
Actually "MatthewBlott", my colleague George Eaton reviews PMQs on the Staggers blog each and every week. Perhaps you should pay more attention.
And the idea that the "Speccie" isn't a cheerleader for Cameron is amusing...
Yep, easy win for Miliband. But then it always should have been. Next week's will be just as interesting - last before the summer break - and this story will still (most probably) be front page news with probably even more heinous allegations.
And MatthewBlott there is a weekly PMQs overview on NS whether Ed "wins" or not.
A much needed solid performance from Miliband.
However, as most people on the doorstep are still asking what Labour are doing to challenge the Conservatives rapid national retrenchment, the fact that Miliband pipes up about a problem which will be of greater interest to Westminster than say, Ladywood, Birmingham, reinforces the public opinion that he's ineffective and appears to be invisible when serious national issues are discussed.
So, a decent outing, but this was the political equivalent of shooting ducks in a barrel. Hardly a 'victory', but tiny steps forward...
@Mel Davis
Yes you are correct Cameron is a terrible terrible leader. Which is why I desperately want Miliband out and a leader in who can really attack him and make him look more of a fool.
You jumped to an assumption that because I don't like Milliband I must like Cameron.
But this is an easy issue. As Black Guardian said, why can't Miliband present a coherent defence of the people the Tory government is attacking week in, week out?
Language game,
I didn't assume anything about your likes and dislikes. All I was doing was pointing out that if Miliband is as bad as you say then Cameron leaves a LOT to be desired
Just listened t the full exchange....Ed M's performance was OK, I suppose, but nothing to get excited about. I love the idea of Cameron being used to wipe floors, but honestly, that didn't really happen today, did it?
Since Miliband's poor performance at PMQs over the government's various U-turns, particularly on the NHS, he has won four PMQs in a row.
He has won quite a few overall actually. One of his best was his first, when I thought he was spectacularly good (his quiet demeanour meant people did not expect it of him, and it was a surprise). And anyone not remember the "Does the PM even know that his NHS proposals mean EU Competition law will rule?"
Ed M has helped to force govt U-turns on Health and sentencing, and regularly gets Cameron red and flustered. Yet always the negative press. Part of this is that enemies are to the Right (Murdoch and Tory press), and from the er, right. D Miliband supporters who just can't get over his losing. And as for the press, I would love this to become sweet revenge against the vile News International, and the deeply undemocratic support it gets from the govt.
Ed Miliband is riding the crest of wave at the moment. He really has upped his game. With his shadow cabinet victory, Labour are already looking more coherent and committed.
He now needs to bring in some fresh faces and get rid of the Flints, Jowells, Hains, Murphys and Healeys etc.
On Ed M
I'd say Miliband needs to be more visible, and deliver more speeches such as the "Take what you can Britain" speech. I consider myself leftwing but see nothing wrong with such speeches or the term and focus on Squeezed Middle, which by the way Ed coined, and has become common speech since.
The squeezed middle to me is about re-focusing what is middle. And is quite different from Middle Class (which for the media means rich people sending kids to private school);
I actually heard the Today programme's John Humphreys use the term Middle Class to refer to himself and others able to send kids to private school: the irony!
Miliband may well have wiped the floor forensically with Cameron. Fish in barrel, indeed.
Does this mean the electorate will entrust the economy to Miliband?
If not, why does it matter?
@ Mehdi Hasan
Sure, The Spectator is a centre-right magazine. I wouldn't say its editor Frazer Nelson is a Cameron cheerleader though, Cameron probably isn't enough of a red-meat right-winger for Nelson. My wider point was that your opinion is pretty biassed. Also, it's news to me that PMQs are reviewed every week. I've hopped on your site a few times looking - I have to say you keep it well hidden. Which sort of validates my point, well Miliband does well (or less badly than usual depending on your point of view) it's flashing up in red lights on the front page. Otherwise, it's nowhere to be found.
Also, you don't have to put my name in quotation marks. I always blog under my own name.
Somebody once said that nobody messes with Murdoch and gets away with it.
Its a high risk strategy for Miliband that will work in the short term, but will destroy him in the long term.
People forget. People forget quickly. Rupert doesn't.
Next you will be blaming them if it rains tomorrow. Are you seriously blaming those people for what the News Of the Worlds' employees do? Did you skip logic at school? Should they be responsible for someone not making a sandwich properly too at M+S' sandwicch supplier? Ridiculous! http://www.homeremodeling101.org/
@Matthew Blott
i usually come here every week after PMQs to read their review of it, so i know that there is one in the NS every week.
and i consider it to be a reliable guide to how it went.
and i'm not an ed miliband fan, i think he gives the coalition far too easy a ride.
@ Matthew Blott
I can't find your blog, but Google did bring up lots of comments posted under your name on the Spectator website and not, by a long shot, just for PMQs either.
@frances smith - You will know then that Miliband is easily the worst performer at PMQ's in living history. Even IDS was better than this.................
My Top 5 performers of the past 30 years are:
1. Mrs Thatcher
2. Neil Kinnock
3. Tony Blair
4. William Hague
5. David Cameron
@Marcus
are you a man or a mouse?
how can anyone want to be prime minister of this country if they are scared of upsetting rupert murdoch.
this is not what the people want.
@MatthewBlott
You seem to be pretty selective in your interpretation. The Spectator link you so kindly mentioned sums up its "Verdict" with the following sentence: "In the end, though, I'd say Miliband probably came out on top, for seeming less on the side of News International." Maybe we were taught English differently, but "came out on top" equals a win in just about everyones' (English) language. Lets hope you're not umpiring anything at the Olympics!
Don't want to be a party pooper here, BUT.. all this happened on New Labour's watch! Ed's big bruvver new all about it, as did Pa Broon and The Liar. And they chose to do nothing. If I was Ed I'd keep schtum.
@Abie Vee
Are you sure you dont mean I don't want to be party POLOTICAL? Next you will be blaming them if it rains tomorrow. Are you seriously blaming those people for what the News Of the Worlds' employees do? Did you skip logic at school? Should they be responsible for someone not making a sandwich properly too at M+S' sandwicch supplier? Ridiculous!
What is it with u an Ed Miliband
he's a rubbish leader, with no alternative to the Tories
@Marcus
Do you think the Dowler's will forget the NOTW hacking their dead daughter's phone messages.
If people are hoping the hacking scandal will blow over, they are in for a shock, especially when former NI employees are in the dock.
Ronnie, calm down dear. I'll repeat,in words of one syllable if I can; all this crap happened on New Labour's watch; they knew about it and chose to do nothing. Now,in an astonishing piece of chutzpah, they are attempting to take the moral high-ground, a deceit that should not go unchallenged. And sandwiches? I dunno but, the last time I looked, Food Hygiene Regulations were indeed the responsibility of government! I'll check it out and get back to you later, meanwhile, as a precaution, avoid beansprouts and mayonnaise to be safe. X
Those in glass houses....
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/leftwatch/2011/07/before-ed-miliband-g...
@Marcus
I think you have it in one. Could it be that Little Ted is the only politician in the country that Murdoch hasn't got any dirt on? Yet.
It is really funny to see the the Tories on here squirm and still they try and blame labour. lol
Er...actually Miliband came across as a bit of a ham, because the attack was so clearly manufactured and choreographed. I'm not sure his heart was entirely in it, given his own party's employment of a bewildering array of disreputable hacks whilst in office.